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This is going to be fun.

Regarding this statement " It works on DII and DIII because teams are more close in skill level."

That is utterly false. Often Mount Union and Wisconsin Whitewater has drilled their opponent in the 60-20 type of whitewash in opening round games. While at the DI level, scholarship limitations mean that underdogs are much more cooperative with big boy football than they were 30 years ago. In the 60's, big schools could sign many more players to scholarships and horde talent. Michigan may have a down year, but they would have never lost to a Appy State. Big Ten schools didn't lose to MAC schools. Boise didn't beat Oklahoma.

Now it happens yet despite examples of upsets, you would rather have a bunch of fat cats in a smoke filled room decide over bourbons that a Fresno State team can't beat Alabama. I think that is garbage. If they do blow out Fresno, then you still get the marquee matchup in the next round. I can't see the negative.

I for one have always been for the 4 team playoff ever since I was at VT. I agree this is all speculative fan-crap but when you do that sit in the room stuff with power players they (and the conference's lawyers) run every scenario through Noah's Ark. They find the holes in every system and go with the one that has the fewest so as to protect everyone. Large tournaments just have way too many holes to ever be viable. Ever.

You are correct about NFL at its inception not having a playoff however it is in it's current state designed for a playoff system. The NCAA, Div 1 football, all the conferences simply are not. You may as well just scrap everything and start a new NCAA with new conferences, etc that is designed for a large playoff, because it's the only way it will work. I posted numerous issues in other comments on this thread that subvert any large playoff system over 4 teams. It cannot work.

But in the NFL, you regularly have mediocre-crappy teams making the playoffs. It's an understood part of the system. Do you really want college football to be like that? Because that's what I'm arguing against. I don't want an 8-8 (or in college, I guess 6-6) team making the playoffs, ever. I like the 4-team, because it's still exclusive enough to keep the pressure on, but if/when it gets expanded, you're going to see more and more teams with warts make the playoffs, and (to me, at least) that really detracts from the overally enjoyment of the sport's regular season.

So he recruited and coached the 23 seniors that won London his NC? Shoot, Wake might actually be fairly good in a couple years.

I really do want to believe. I thought we'd win 10 games this year with a senior QB and our defense. But the offense just never turned the corner. Too many formations. Too little commitment to the tailbacks. Too inconsistent up front. The WR performance against Bama. The QB performance against Duke. The OL performance against BC.

I agree that there were some schematic improvements, but nobody was beating down Loeffler's door when we picked him up from Auburn. And their success does reflect poorly on him, no matter how you justify it. Malzahn is using a former free safety from UGA as his QB.

At some point, you gotta make some chicken salad. I really like chicken salad.

10 game regular season and then they have to win 4 games to win a championship. 14 games in 16 weeks with bus trips for playoff games covering half the country (Virginia to Trinity, TX was my experience.)

FYI, D3 used a 32 team playoff.

I've been thinking that since about week 2 of this season... our worst nightmare might actually be coming true.

HOWEVER, the game's not until the 31st, which means Kyle might have a better chance of being healthy. That would give us 2 Fullers to their 1. We win.

I definitely understand that, and I am tying to do the same thing. Numbers never lie (let's face it, this wasn't an elite offense this year by any stretch of the imagination), but I also don't think the numbers tell the whole story.

The NFL was never designed for a playoff, it adapted to have one. A large playoff will and can work. It will just piss off traditional powers because they have to play "inferior" competition to advance. Nothing we're going to come up with in two days is going to be perfect or maybe even be fair, but if you lock us all in a room for 2 months we could probably come up with something. That's what got us the 4-team playoff and beforehand lots of people bitched and moaned about it ruining the regular season when they announced it. Now all I hear is people saying it should of started this year.

LT has good stats for various reasons. One, his first year starting he was working with 2 of the best receivers to come through VT. Two, he started for 3 full years and was never benched by an injury, so he had a lot more games to accrue those stats. Three, VT spent a lot of time playing from behind in his 3 years, which really boosts QB stats because come-from-behind offenses are pass heavy. Four, in the last 2 of his 3 years VT has not had a reliable running game so we haven't been able to lean on our running game as much as we have with other QBs.

I'm not a LT3 hater, nor am I a Leal Truther, but LT3's stats don't make him the best QB to ever play for VT. He is a team player and one hell of a competitor, but he's not the best QB we've ever had. I really like the kid and I'm sad for him because I think the previous staff really squandered his talent. But I'm excited to move on to the next guy and get a true QB back under center and see what this offense can do. With a true QB and an experienced O-Line (they might as well have all been freshman this year given pos. changes and technique coaching changes) I think that Loeffler will be able to field a competitive offense. With BF still on staff, in a couple years this team could make a pretty good run.

A 0.3 YPP decline on a team full of freshman in games where we were usually sitting on the football to protect a lead in the 4th quarter isn't all that bad in my book.

were still talking about the same things. I agree about the absurdity that they "won" a national championship after beating a team they lost too. Again that's why large tournaments create more problems. Keep it to 4. Only 4. (maybe 6)

Yeah, I like measureables. Like YPP, where we went from 5.0 to 4.7.

And for some context, here is where we ranked, in the country, in 2013:
Points per game: #100
Yards per game: #99
Points per play: #100
Yards per play: #106
3rd Down Conv: #110
Red Zone %: #119

The ugliness is documented here

Besides, one player does not a complete team make. Even with how bad our offense was last year, this year's team was arguably less talented and without question less experienced.

If they aren't good enough, then I don't see how you can pin that on Lefty. He can only do so much to prepare the guys. At a certain point, they just have to execute and win one-on-one matchups.

Yeah but the boo hoo, make you wanna jump off a bridge, gloom and doom posts about how nothing has gotten better and I see no signs for optimism are just silly. Reading them is sad and depressing as hell. Not to mention based in some kind of you need prosac alternate reality. This team and this coordinator are gonna light it up. Write it down.

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