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But you cannot tell me that an 8 team playoff would water anything down since you still have to win your conference.
Absolutely you can. the problem with anything above 4 is that you wouldn't be able to limit to just conference champions. The argument that a 1 loss Bama is still better than most every team in the country is extremely valid. And if you truly want to see who the best team in the nation is you can't exclude them from a tournament so large just because they lost their conference championship game. Saban, Meyer and Slive already said this when the idea of only conference champions in the plus one or 4 team play off systems were being discussed.
With only 4 top teams you take only the best ranked. Here you could argue against Saban and SEC that only conference Champions can make it. 6 team tourney maybe you can do it as well, but I doubt it.
Only talking bowls...
And the entire system needs an overhaul.
They "profit sharing" can be altered. But what I have offered up would be different than what's out there now. There wouldn't be mid-major confernces in football. Only 6 big conferences. Split the money similar to March Madness. Let's be honest that $1million from a bowl game is a drop in the bucket compared to the contractual haul from the networks.
As for the Cities, there are several "new" bowls that have popped up in the past decade that might not change that much. If the teams playing in the bowl aren't bringing fans with them, there's not much money to be made anyway.
Bruinsnation.com is their SBnation blog, there's usually quite a bit of content on there. Not as much in depth analysis as french's writeups but still good. That's the one I frequent. As someone who attended both schools and follows both teams, this is pretty much my worst sports-related nightmare.
I said it in another post...just let everyone practice those 10-15 days.
Don't make a team/school lose money to send the team/circus to a bowl that nobody wants to be involved in. There are too many bowl games. Make every game matter. Including the bowls.
Are you sure that intensity isn't because there are only 12 games in the regular season for a team and in basketball there are 30+ in a basketball season and all they're playing for is seeding? That's why you give a huge advantage to the conference champs. That way you aren't playing for seeding, you're playing for the top 2 spots in the conference of 12-14 teams where conference losses could be devastating in a close race.
No one is advocating a 32 team CFB playoff. Most want a 8, 12, or 16 team one. I get the 16 team playoff probably could water things down since you will have 2 and 3 loss teams in there. But you cannot tell me that an 8 team playoff would water anything down since you still have to win your conference.
I agree, color me unimpressed with Loeffler Year 1. And now we're losing Thomas. I'm pretty discouraged about where we are right now.
But you see, cancelling bowl games would then cripple teams and leagues who need the payout from the smaller leagues. It would also cripple the cities where the games are hosted that depend on that influx of money yearly. If teams were only supposed to play in warm areas, there wouldn't be a football team in Blacksburg.
Pretty sure teams are limited to 10 days of practice or something around there. Maybe 15, but they don't get 4-5 weeks. That's why teams who play in January games go home and come back to campus for practices. It's not a huge leg up for the next year, but it can make a difference for those young players. Not sure how being rewarded for a winning season is considered a hidden agenda.
EDIT: Correction, there is no limit, so yes, in theory you could have 4-5 weeks of practice, but I don't think any team does that. http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/postseason+bow...
ah yes, this is correct.
Yes, absolutely agree with only conference champions. And agree about your Boise example. This is what I mean as well. But for me, 4 teams is ideal. 6 team bracket would be the absolute most I could see being viable. Anything more and you invite too many problems.
you see, you just solved your question though. The extra practice time and jump on next season is in itself a great reward. So you play Idaho in freezing temp but it's still worth it dude.
I'd be happy with 6 next year. It's going to be a long year.
I prefer college football to basketball. I realize March Madness is a lot of fun, but honestly, that's really the only time I watch college basketball. I watch college football every weekend from September to New Years, and part of the reason is because of the prolonged intensity of it.
Thanks BCO!!!!! Glad it was here this season, and glad I could make picks every week. Even had to pick from St Andrews for the second week, but we all have to make concessions.
3rd place and above 50% on the year?
I'm impressed with myself.
Thanks for doing this every week, BCO!
But going to a bowl game allows for the extra 4-5 weeks of practice and a jump start on next season. That's the hidden agenda on why there are so many bowl games...
Yep, this is how I did the non-stop trip as well. Down to Vegas and then 40. then all the way through to end of Tenn and up to Blacksburg. Best part of the drive going east Arkansas because its night when I reach there and that means its Waffle House time. Going west I would say dropping into New Mexico east of Albuquerque is fantastic. Beautiful countryside there. West of 'Querque though is fairly boring. I always stopped at both sides of the state. Tucumcari for gas and Mexican food, and then Gallup for dinner at a truck stop diner I forget the name of. Great road trip food in both places when you do the non-stop trip.
Oh, I agree. I would love to see these bowl just plain not happen. Don't "punish" a team that won 8 games...make them earn the nice vacation to warm spot next year by winning 9 or 10. There are too many bowl games.
yeah I've gone all the way from Reno to Salt Lake through phucking Nebraska, with side trip to Mt Rushmore, through Iowa up to Chicago and then around the lakes up to Niagara Falls, then to NYC and back down to VT. Loved every minute except for Nebraska.
Also I watched Miami play Nevada in Boise years and years ago. It was a great game. 90% sold out because the local community loved their bowl and wanted to see that extra game as much as the fans of teams did. Some locations don't have the local crowd. Others do. But the ticket allotments to teams can cause issue if fans can't go. But with these smaller bowls allotments are comparatively not that high. Again schools would refuse. Plus the conference also pays for unsold tickets to bowl games as well.
I don't think they need to be the 4 best conference champions either. If someone like Boise St was able to schedule a very strong season and beat ranked teams, go undefeated then they have a shot at being top 4. It's a long shot yes, but that's why it's called a Cinderella story. There will always be haves and have-nots. VT is somewhere in the middle of that but could magically make a run like in '99 and get to the final game.
I think you're misreading what I mean by "four best conference champions." If Boise State goes undefeated and wins the Mountain West Conference, I'm pretty certain the poll voters and playoff committee would consider them one of the top four conference champions. The only way they wouldn't make it is if the ACC, SEC, Big XII and Pac-12 (or Big Ten) champions were also ALL undefeated. In a 4 team bracket, I believe that any time there are fewer than 5 undefeated teams, then they will ALL be conference champions and they will ALL be in the playoffs. I really like the 4 team bracket... as long as it only includes conference champions. With over 120 teams playing at this level, then it is imperative that conference titles be used to pare down the teams under consideration for those four playoff spots.
So you guys want upsets to ruin people's chances at a championship during the regular season because it adds intensity and excitement, but don't want that in a playoff? Isn't that the ultimate upset? It'd be way more exciting and thrilling. Bama losing to Vandy halfway through the season won't be better than Bama losing to UCF or Wake Forest(ACCCG Upset) in the finals or semi-finals.
Let's use examples close to home.
VT vs. FSU in the first year of the ACCCG. Records and ranking wise, VT was the better team, but FSU won the championship game, and therefore was the champion.
There was one year where VT lost to GT, and therefore missed the ACCCG, but was still considered to be better than both teams in the CG. I think it might have been 2006.
And then this year, if Duke or any team from the Coastal could have pulled off the upset against FSU, they would be the champion...but we all know that if you rank all 14 ACC teams from top to bottom, FSU and Clemson are both above any Coastal team.
Exactly. For players, especially 5th year seniors that aren't going to the NFL or don't play much, an extra game with bowl swag is a great reward. Kyle Chung may be making fun of the hair dryer now but in his last year he'll die to go to any bowl he can just for one more game.
And if it was such a dismally, bad option to go to a bowl game in some far off location with a nobody team as you say, then schools would just refuse. They don't have to accept bowl births. They have clauses in conference contracts on backing out of bowl games.

You do realize that teams will make less money when smaller bowls are eliminated right? The payout that would have gone to them (or been split by the conference) is no longer there. So the team that made a better bowl but didn't sell enough tickets gets less to cover that cost. While they will still be able to cover that cost from their payout, they won't make as much money as they could if the smaller bowl games were played.
Now some people have thought that you could just increase the payouts on the large bowl and cut the small ones to make up the difference. It just doesn't work like that. Payouts come from sponsors who make money as well from the bowl. No bowl game will get multiple sponsors because nobody wants the Advocare Little Ceasar's Chick-Fil-A Bowl. Also, nobody is going to pay a team twice as much as they currently are for a bowl payout. So the way the system works is that the conferences need the small bowls just as much as they need the major bowls and the reason behind it is $$$$$