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Word is we were actually given a special exemption and invitation to play in the Orange Bowl this year, however Weaver turned it down so that he could go out with a noon game.
My gf is really into Doctor Who, so I went with her for the whole "Day of the Doctor" special never having watched any of it. You should've seen the looks I got after I said they time travel in a phone booth (it's a Police Box!) and that it "sounds like 'Bill & Ted' without Bill and Ted."
Also, it's "Doctor" and not "Dr." because it's his name???
I mean...the companion was the highlight for me.
Margin of victory and SOS will become more of facotors than with the latest BCS, but it doesnt change what teams need to do or plan for. FB's M.O has always been play the the best teams and play lights out. it has worked out for him I'd say. If a team schedules 'cupcakes' and barely beats them, it will be obvious.
Not clear on why teams would need to know the formula. They should have one goal WIN. That's the reason for the committee is to observe the season and teams as a whole. take notes and discuss. Going along with your school analogy, If a teacher gave out every minute detail of what is needed to get an A in the syllabus, why would they need a teacher or even hold class. Its the teams jobs to play the games and the committee job to determine who are the best. The polls will do a lot of the legwork for them. and until it expands we are talking about only picking 4 teams that will mostly be obvious choices.
... and a simple rule would eliminate that problem (or at least make deciding who plays easier) . It would become yet another debate item. Although no one was debating for OSU to be considered national champions last year due to sanctions. The conf champ rule would have been eventually accepted. I think the likelihood of teams from the same conf playing in the NC game will be all but an impossibility with the selection committee. They will want to spread the wealth. No more SEC rematches.
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# | This year marks the end the BCS era. Thoughts on BCS System on the whole? That's the 'beauty' of the selection committee. Its up to them how to decide and creating their own computer formula isn't that far fetched. It of course wouldn't be the only factor but it might sway a vote or two for determining the fourth seed.
The problem is, that the selection committee's 'formula' won't be given until the end of the year. A team should be know up front what they have to do.
Analogy: How would you feel if your teacher didn't tell you how your exams/hw assignments/participation was going to be weighed until right before the final exam?
By creating an algorithm (that's revealed to the public btw) players, coaches and fans will know exactly what their team needs to do.
I would hope that each committee member will create their own type of staff to help with researching teams, trends, schedules etc. to help them make educated choices. By doing so they would have their own 'human computers' system which could be way better than what an algorithm could do.
I would hope so, but, again, you still have bias in this scenario. I understand that a computer program is going to be 'biased' based on how it's design (how much SOS factors in, etc), but at least the bias is given up so coaches, ADs, players and fans can plan accordingly.
point #1 would solve alot of debates- I agree but-
just curious: Besides Bama- how many teams made the championship game without winning their conf.?
In 2012 Stanford had 2 losses (both in the first half of the season on the road to two ranked teams) and Oregon had one loss to Stanford. Stanford won the PAC12, but after the game, Oregon was ranked 4 and Stanford 5, even though Stanford had won the conference AND won the H2H with Oregon (at Oregon). I think Stanford should get a playoff bid over Oregon in this scenario. The conference championship rule prevents situations like these.
VT was on a mission in 99- despite our stellar season and record, The feeling (at least to me) was we had no business being on that field and giving a clearly superior FSU team ALL that they could handle. It was a spectacular game. The VT program became an adult in that game.
2001 Nebraska lost to Colorado in the Big XII Championship game and lost again to Miami in the BCS Championship game.
2003 Oklahoma lost to Kansas State in the Big XII Championship game and lost again to LSU in the BCS Championship game.
And you already know about Bama. So in 16 seasons, the BCS 3 times allowed a team who failed to win their conference to compete for the MNC. And that's three times too many in my book. 
Agree- I should have said "most of the time" different teams. But for example - Last year, Notre Dame was probably 'most deserving' since they were undefeated. However, Oregon would have been the best team, and should have been #2 (or you could argue Florida).
I agree - if you think about it, the 99 VT team isn't too far from the '13 FSU team... I think the only exception is that this years' FSU team is absolutely loaded with NFL athletes. But the rise to the top of the polls were very similar, along with the margin of VicTory for each game (minus the WVU game in '99)
We were a hot commodity back then after beating in the Sugar Bowl. Now, if OSU, Michigan, Miami, or a traditional power were undefeated I would agree with you. But they weren't and it was just us and FSU on top with Nebraska third. Now, if we were a 1 loss team than there is no question we're out. Also before the BCS bowl games were played and then the Champion was crowned so even in third place if we win a bowl we could feasibly move to #2 with #1 or #2 losing.
A better year would probably be 2007 when we finished championship week #3 in the BCS. If there was no BCS we would of been out of the Top 5 that year since most of the computers had us #1 and traditional powers were also up there.
Yeah, if I'm traveling alone and I would have to sleep somewhere I just fly. Two nights of hotels, especially around the holidays, are going to be $100 at least if I want to stay away from roaches and bed bugs. Throw gas and food in there and it's up there. I'd rather just get someone to drop me off at the airport and pay $300-$400 to fly someplace. Not to mention you spend 4-5 hours traveling instead of 20+ so you get all that time back and unless I'm going to be there for two weeks it's not worth it.
Technically, the Big East existed long before we joined. We were added for the inaugural season of Big East football, but it had existed for years as a non-football conference, and BC was the first founding member to bolt.
The Big East didn't want us anyway, WVU had to lobby to get us in. And it took a full 9 years before they welcomed us fully, we were still in the A10 for all sports but football and wrestling until 2000. I say good riddance.
Ive actually been to this stadium, It is incredible. Mountains surround the Stadium and I went to a 5A texas High School Playoff game there game in 2002. When I went to the game there were hundreds og people who were drinking on the hills and watching the game from wayyyy up top. The Stadium is way to big for UTEP and is never even half full.
This thread is for EPHokie.... (El Paso) Hokie.
That's a good point. I think we got sent to this bowl for border security. The illegals will hear that BudSam Rogers is right over the border and start running for Guatemala.
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Eat a taco for me! Yup, that kind too.
Ugh, Statistics....
The human polls are semi tainted because of the BCS being in place. the mentality before the BCS was that the 'haves' will play in the the big games even if a 'have not' deserves it more. Nothing beyond the individual bowl committees had any say in who played in what bowl. VT would not have been considered number two no matter what our recordf was at the end of the season. The BCS put us in the discussion, nothing else would have.
And I thought that I was pretty gung-ho about driving everywhere I go... in my experience, anything over about 20 hours tends to be a tradeoff cost-wise between flying and driving, unless the destination isn't terribly near an airport or you are travelling with someone else. And that's with a relatively new fuel efficient sedan.
And that doesn't even account for any of the added stress of having to stay awake the whole time as well as dealing with traffic (which admittedly is pretty sparse once you get past the Appalachians). At least when you fly, the stress is all grouped into small clumps (getting through security, finding your connection gate, etc.)
Well, that being said, I am taking the day after the game off as well - and the day before it too.
I think we would have. We had one 1st place vote in the preseason and were one of two undefeated power conference teams. We wouldn't have been crowned but we were the clear cut #2 team that year at the end of the regular season.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_NCAA_Division_I-A_football_rankings
Yeah, I'm planning to do a whole write-up... possibly tonight? We'll see.