QB Knox Kadum Commits to VT

247 reports the QB prospect has committed to Virginia Tech.

The 6-3 188 lb signal caller was rated .8315 by the Composite.

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Let's hope this really PAYOUTES out...

There are wolves and there are sheep, I am the sheep dog

With Payout, Hyatt, Robinson, and Turner, he's gonna have some fun.

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Does his Dad have any eligibility left? Cause he is a dude.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

No kidding. If his son is 6'3", that is a big, big man.

No joke, has to be 6'7 ish


His dad is too tall to play for Buzz Williams


Dang. If only momma were a few inches taller. Son would be taking in the NFL $$ soon...

Could he have another growth spurt in him?

Apparently he is still growing so it's not out of the question he gets a few inches taller.

I wish I could get a few more inches

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He's an absolute unit.

Friend of mine in Georgia is calling this a GREAT pickup. Already a legend in Rome. They wanted him after Fields left but would only offer PWO. Doesn't have the flashy tools that camps grade off of, but he put up huge numbers against elite competition. There's a decently high ceiling here, and at the very least it's a guy who can provide depth

So is he a successor to QP2 or a contender to start after a redshirt year?

It was a catch!

You wanna come to a super soft birthday party?

I'd say anyone is a contender to start next year given our circumstance

Always choose joy.

QP is going to start. That's why everyone is jumping ship right now.


Do you have sauces or is that conjecture? There are explanations for why HH and JJ left that don't include QP starting. I hope you're right, I just wouldn't be so certain.

No decisions have been made - it will be a competition

I posted this in the Hendon Hooker thread, and I'll double down on it:

I have some inside #sauces that the QBs are all jumping ship because the writing is on the wall that QP will be the starter next year. They are going to have a spring battle, but the staff/players all think QP is the real deal and ready to take the reigns.


Yeah I'll throw my hat in the ring. QP isn't starting next year unless something happens to RW or there is a dramatic change in his accuracy. I talk to "people that would know" about this topic often and I'm told it's Willis next year.

Of course that could change but my sources are, uh, players on the team haha

I don't have any #sauces but that is what my gut is telling me:

Scenario 1: open competition. 4 QBs, anyone can win means likely all 4 return or maybe HH transfers
Scenario 2: JJ is the known starter: RW stays because what else is he going to do. HH may leave but could stay to battle next season
Scenario 3: RW is named starter, JJ feels slighted and transfers but HH stays
Scenario 4: QP is named starter, JJ leaves knowing he is done, HH leaves knowing has similar eligibility to QP and will always be competing without getting starting reps

The fact that QP and RW are the only remaining QBs leads me to believe QP has been given the green light pending good spring workouts and fall camp. RW has no where to go so he has to stay along for the ride.

I think it's a little more complex than that. I believe Willis could grad transfer and compete for the starting job somewhere but he is down to his last year, seems to have a lot of confidence in himself, and likely feels pretty good about his chances to win the starting job. So my assessment would be:

Scenario 5: open competition. 4 QBs, anyone can win but RW and JJ seemingly have a slight advantage due to experience. JJ doesn't want to risk it as he believes he is guaranteed to see the field elsewhere. Behind them, QP seemingly has a slight advantage over HH given their playing time last season. HH realizes he almost certainly has less than a 25% chance to be the starter and wants to increase his odds elsewhere rather than likely be buried on the depth chart for at least another year (and at best a 50/50 chance he's not buried there for the rest of his career).

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It's certainly possible and I won't discount any theory or opinion as we may never know. I just think JJ and HH would be risking an awful lot to start over in a new system as opposed to competing to reduce that "slight" advantage. And I mean they are risking a lot from the stand point that nothing (hypothetically) has been decided within the program. The fact that HH and JJ both put in their transfer requests around the same time would lead me to believe there was a meeting and things were made clear for them.

I was just surprised that HH would transfer and have to sit for a year as opposed to spending another year as a backup at Tech. He could have worked on his throwing motion, graduated and then been able to move to another program right away.

I'd speculate that he felt he had essentially no chance at being our starting QB this season and would rather start learning the system at his new school to increase his chances at being a starter in 2020. It seems like a pretty reasonable decision to me.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

I have no #sauces but my gut feeling is history is repeating itself. Fuente is betting on long term success by throwing everything into a young QB of his choosing in Lynch QP

His name sounds like a FNL character

I've been rewatching FNL the TV show recently. He has a great QB name hope he plays as good.

Great pickup. Big time winner. Definitely knows the game and reads. Sleeper who provides depth at the position and should flourish under Fuente. I bet he grows some too judging by the size of his dad and frame

leg but isn't firenze the iowah hawk i's coach?

We will hereafter be referred to as the school of Hard Knox Kadum

Hey, nobody knocks Kadum!

Have Brewer take the kid hunting/fishing.

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His tape is great. Seems like a savvy player.

"If you liked Michael Brewer but had questions about his size, do we have a quarterback for you!"

In all seriousness, there's no downside to this. Kid is a proven winner, proven leader. Has consistently played against - and generally, beaten - high quality competition as a four-year starter. Looks like a tough kid. Has a little bit of Daniel Jones in him (minus the overall size and big arm) - seems comfortable running the ball and laying a lick. Throws a very accurate ball. Would get a lot more zip on the ball if he actually kept his back foot on the ground to push off. Has some very basic technique flaws that need addressing, but you can't argue his accuracy and handle on his offensive system.

He seems like he'd be custom-built for JMU as a 'highly productive but undersized/athletically limited' pro-style QB. And yet, he chose VT, where no one expects him to provide much aside from depth - which tells me he's betting on himself. That kind of confidence can only push the guys in front of him.

Would be great to be able to redshirt him and see where a year in Hilgartsville takes him.

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

I can see him ending up in the 6-3, 210-215 neighborhood. Good size IMO

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I read that as implying athletically limited

A real gym rat. First one in, last to leave kind of guy

Real student of the game, loves the process

deceptively fast


.and Whit puts on his batting gloves and steps up to the plate....

I get this feeling this kid will do great things

I hope they give him a fair chance to get the starting QB job. He's gonna be pretty good

When in doubt. Nap it out

Reminds me of Michael Brewer, Ryan Willis, Sean Glennon and Jim Druckenmiller

You forgot Dave Meyer and Grant Noel.

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Maybe a little Isaiah Ford too

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...sounds about right...

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He looks deceptively fast!

Sneaky athletic? A real student of the game? First in, last out kinda guy?

There is nothing in the world like Thursday night in Blacksburg!

High football IQ. His dad's a coach!

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I'm fairly certain this kid isn't going to win a Heisman or anything like that, but it seems like he could be the type of kid to be a Baker Mayfield. Underrecruited but has good size, a great skill set for a quarterback, and a proven winner. Let him hit the weight room with Hilgart and the film room with Fuente, and this kid could become very good.

Marshall University student.
Virginia Tech fanatic.

Baker Mayfield won a Heisman

Did he?

Marshall University student.
Virginia Tech fanatic.

I think there is something there with this kid. It's all in how he develops I guess like the rest of them, but on the surface seems like a pretty good pickup.

Worried about the lack of offers to the big dogs, but if Georgia/LSU had interest late but no space, then that's certainly a good sign.

Always choose joy.

Prototype "game manager". What I like best in his highlights is how well he sees the field, probably better than some of the guys on the roster last year. But his passes have a lot of hang time...which is why his offer list up to now is what it is.

I like the comment earlier in the thread "which tells me he's betting on himself". I think that's accurate and I like that as well. Confident leaders do that sort of thing.

If he can improve arm strength, could be a steal.

"with all due respect, and remember I’m sayin’ it with all due respect, that idea ain’t worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin’ it on" - Ricky Bobby

Stole a recruit from JMU, we are so on the up and up /s sort of

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I wonder how Bama fans felt when's Saban offered a QB committed Arkansas State. Or Oklahoma offered a kid a PWO who couldn't make it at Texas Tech.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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Or Oklahoma offered a kid a PWO who couldn't make it at Texas Tech.

If this is referring to Baker Mayfield, it's an extremely inaccurate representation of what happened.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Saban has earned that privilege, he does not miss much

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
“I served in the United States Navy"


At QB? I'd say Tua is his first star QB, as for offering that kid he wasn't offering him to be a starter just like I have a feeling Knox isn't projected to be the starter.

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McCarron was second in heisman voting...

Seriously? Huh, Heisman voters are dumber than I thought.

Peep McCarron's sports reference. He balled out his junior and senior years.

Can't wait to see him enter the transfer portal next spring. /s

I would root for the Russians before I would root for Virginia.

I don't know if I would put him in the game mananger box yet. He doesn't have the measurables to get the big ratings, which I get.

However, I would contend accuracy, intelligence and instincts (pocket awareness, anticipation, vision in chaos etc.) are the most important QB qualities. If you have decent athleticism and arm strength you can be really good to great while relying on those strengths.

Due to the timing of this offer and the lack of Power 5 offers this will be criticized. I get that and can see the criticism.

On the other hand, the opportunistic timing here due to Jackson/Hooker leaving could be a good thing. QB's who are projects can be hard and have a high bust rate in spite of the measurables. This kid has run a similar offense on a highly talented team in GA. He has great command of an offense and is highly competent with checks and changes on the field.

He will have to put in work in the weight room and the film room, but sometimes QB's with his qualities are better to take a chance on than a guy who has the measurables. Accuracy and Qb instincts are more important in my book, but time will tell

Strongly agree about accuracy, intelligence, and instincts. I'll forever hate Miami, but always respected Ken Dorsey. He's a good example of how much a QB with those traits can accomplish with some talent around him.

Totally agree on accuracy, intelligence, and instincts. Peyton Manning is one of the best qbs of all time and only had decent arm strength and zero speed and athleticism. But all his throws were on time and on target.

I understand your point but Peyton's speed and athleticism for an NFL player was low but he ran a 4.8 40 at the combine, it's not like he wouldn't own most people at a game of basketball or some other sport. Peyton never ran becuase why would you? Look what happened to Luck. Peyton is more important not getting hit.

Wow, some salt from JMU fans for de-committing. Some are actually saying that JMU is a better program....

You can find all sorts of nonsense on the internet.

A lot of JMU fans like to play on the fact that the FCS is technically Division 1, so they claim a lot of "D1 National Championships". Although that misses the obvious truth that FCS is clearly a lower subdivision.

Next to adding needed depth, my favorite part of this pick up is seeing JMU people tweet @ him saying he picked the "dumpster fire" program. Its unnecessary but my disdain for JMU soars when they get butthurt

Saw this right when you posted it and thought 247 was just blowing smoke up our ass... but 2 of the crystal balls have changed in the last 30 minutes, so maybe where there's smoke there's fire lol

Great QBs are leaders! They have "it".

"It" is the ability to get teammates to follow, to act, TO BELIEVE!

As far as I could tell, Brewer had "it". Looks like QP has some of "it". Maybe this kid too...

"It" combined with the talent we have at receiver and OL...... hmmmmmmm!!!

It was a sewer dwelling clown.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Kadum had 32 tds and 0 ints his senior season. Pretty good.

The quarterback had more than a dozen of scholarship offers including ones from Akron, Charlotte, Coastal Carolina and Rutgers.

? Reminds me of Glennon.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby

A lot of folks have bad mouthed Sean Glennon, but I think it was primarily that he lacked the scrambling ability / flashiness of Tyrod Taylor and the Vick brothers that preceded him. Despite that shortcoming, he did win a lot of games for the HOKIES.
As much as I admired and respect Coach Beamer, I always thought that he should have allowed Glennon to replace Tyrod Taylor at the end of the bowl game against Tennessee for the victory formation(s) so that he could end his career on the field.

Ut Prosim Ad Dei Gloriam

It would be difficult for him to end his career on the field against Tennessee when he exhausted his eligibility in the 2008 season.

You are right.. I was going off of memory; it was actually the 2009 Orange Bowl and Tech was playing Brian Kelly's Cincinnati Bearcats. Glennon was left standing on the sidelines while Tech was leading 20 to 7 while Tyrod was taking a knee during the last seconds of the game.
Tyrod was clearly the future, but I though Glennon deserved to take the field for the last few plays. Then again, I was not the coach and there might have been other things going on to which I have no insight.

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2 reasons people give Sean Glennon:
1. He couldn't get the job done so we could redshirt Tyrod Taylor
2. Jean Shorts

If yall have a problem with jean shorts, or jorts as they should respectfully be called, then you have a problem with the majority of the roster in the 2000s

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I think that Georgia bowl game is also seared in our brains.... but we won an ACC title with him and I believe he was the MVP of the ACCCG against Matt Ryan.

Yeah we lost a game where we gave up 200 yards of offense, like 2ypc, and 9/21 passing because in the 2nd half we went Interception, interception, fumble, interception on four consecutive drives. One of Georgia's drives started at our 1 after an interception lol.

What's wrong with jean shorts?

I think you just answered your own question there, bud.

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I personally didn't like him because he was a giant douche in college (although I've heard he's matured now).

My opinion about my own athletic skills greatly changed one day when I went to McComas to play some pick-up bball and found my self on a team with Glennon and Royal. I knew Royal was a phenomenal athlete (his jog was faster then my sprint), but what I wasn't expecting was how athletic Glennon was. Much faster and far more agile then I would have ever imagined. Gave me a whole new respect about how big and fast those defensive linemen are.

Yeah, and the Glennon/Tyrod years were the ones where OL seemed to be short for "Olé".

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Yeah, I felt for Glennon as QB those years as the line couldn't even give him 1.5 seconds on a lot of plays.

It wasn't what Glennon lacked. It was that Glennon's tenure coincided with Curt Newsome's.

This sort of situation makes it even more paramount for the staff to win a 2020 stud RB. I think this year is the year although I still feel King will be a star provided he stays healthy.

This kid has the measurables, arm and accuracy and was playing, and beating, top level talent in GA. For four years. Help me understand why this kid wasn't rated higher and had only two D1 offers from us and Rutgers. After watching his film I don't think he should be considered a backup option.

Finally have gotten around to watching Knox's tape. Kid is a winner and makes plays through the air and with his feet. He may need to add a few pounds for longevity and may not be the Justin Fields that UGA or LSU is looking for, but think he could be a great fit in our offense down the road. Like most I am really surprised he didn't have more P5 offers, with a 21/0 TD/INT ratio and 11 rushing TD's for one of the best teams in arguably the best football state.

I would say this is a significant win considering the time in the recruiting cycle and the sudden need for QB's this late.

He's already got be on the All-Name team

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

He has Dabo / SEC QB hair, consider me sold.

I'm here for the memes, I just stay for the football.

Think we had to offer him head coach-in-waiting to get him to flip from JMU?

On second though, I'm surprised Mike London never tried that move.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

London didn't try that because he would've been out of a job within 3 games of the year starting as the new player coach took control

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Back in my day, we called that the "Opie Taylor."