August 2020 football recruiting thread

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link to the 2021 Unofficial Big Board (google sheet)

August 2020 247 Embeds:

(not exhaustive, and no particular order):

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

My 2 cents is that Tristan Leigh eliminated us at his last cut and should no longer be one of the embeds.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

Yes, I had intended to update that. Good catch

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Also, probably worth adding Devin Lee (link)

Devin Lee and Tyleik Williams are my ideal 3t/1t pickups.

Time to discourse all over this recruiting thread. Lets see...

Do stars matter for the teams performance?
Does it matter that UNC keeps taking good recruiticorns if historically they've done nothing with it?
Is two dozen scholarship running backs a good number?

There's always a lighthouse. There's always a man. There's always a city.

Well, UNC got a decommit from Jared Wilson as he's recommitting to Georgia. That's gotta sting for some of you Mack Brown fan boys.

I can't imagine that it stings for them too too much.

They are moving out of the top 10 soon I bet.

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Wait, seriously?

Last I checked they were sitting at a comfortable #2. On 24/7 anyway.

Granted that was a couple weeks ago..

9th as of tonight. With Miami, UF, UGA, Texas, Oklahoma and ND all within easy striking distance.

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Important to note that they are already at ~250 points with only 17 commits. Several of the schools ahead and behind them have more recruits in their classes.

The cutoff for top 10 in the 2020 team rankings was just north of 261 points. It's probably safe to say with a few more commits UNC will eclipse that threshold.

Does that factor in the Tony Grimes reclassification though?

Yes it does. That's a major reason why UNC dropped in the 2021 rankings. He was reclassified into their 2020 class which moved last years class to 13th overall.

It's disingenuous imo to highlight their recent drop without pointing out that they didn't really lose their top recruit, he will just be joining the team earlier.

Just shows they recruited really well LAST year but are now clearly slipping.... on a downward trajectory for sure.

It's August 1st, also known as Official Offer Day in the world of recruiting. Today is when schools are "officially" allowed to extend scholarship offers. This practice is one of the reasons why I always point out comparing which offered 400 kids and which school offered 200 kids is a pointless exercise and doesn't mean anything.

You'll probably see recruits posting various schools "official" offer graphics now.

And also why "P5 offers" isn't a particularly good metric anymore (even though some people still use it religiously).

Also why it may be seen as particularly more damning if we take a player who doesn't have any

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Who might that be?

I actually don't follow (or find interesting) the minutia of recruiting like many. But it seems like pretty much every player VT signs these days has other P5 "offers" by the time signing day rolls around.

Christian Darrisaw was one.

More of a remark that some people don't think stars matter, some people think offers don't matter, some people (functionally) think the eval doesn't matter, and you're never going to satisfy everyone so it makes sense to link the recruiting profiles and film if they have any.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

*Unofficial list of Official offers:

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Don't want to add too many more imbedded tweets so I'll just list any future ones here:
Landyn Watson tweeted out his official offer.
Isi Etute tweeted out his official offer.
Dawain Lofton tweeted out his official offer.
Malachi Thomas tweeted out his official offer. (When will he get a recruit ranking?)
Tahj Bullock tweeted out his official offer.

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DJ Harvey:

I'll put my life on this stamp.

Finally found the tier higher than 800% committed. I fucking love this kid.

Reports an offer have not seen his name anywhere before.

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Would love to get one of him or Estime.

Reports an offer. His offer list is impressive for a 3 star.

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A RB that puts blocking highlights in his HUDL tape. I like that.

TKPhi Damn Proud
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I was going to ask about why all these offers now! Didn't realize an offer couldn't be official until August 1st. Does that mean the player has to be going into their senior year to get an official offer?

Stick it in...Stick it in...Stick it in

It's for their respective class, so yes. 2021 offers became "official" today.

Wonder if there will be an official offer to DD or if we've completely given up on him.

Stick it in...Stick it in...Stick it in

I don't have insider info and can't say with certainty but... that bridge was General Sherman level burned so I highly doubt it. Don't give him the chance to use it against us as an insult to Bullock either.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

DD. Who dat?

Donald Duck

I thought it was Daffy? Daisy?

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Dick Dastardly, you may also know of his sidekick Muttley.

Maybe Deputy Doofy?

That's Special Officer Doofy... get it straight....

February..'96...the steak: ribeye, the whiskey:Lagavulin 16, the lady next to me: a bit**.....

It appears his twitter account isn't posting anything.

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Evan Watkins put in a CB for VT, so it's canon

Would be quite a boon for the offensive line

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Can't wait until his first pancake block is shown on the screen so the crowd can go "booooooooonnnneeee"

Touchdown Tech!!

I canon wait either.

Was Skipper the selling point in his recruitment?

I would love to know if anyone has any inside information on Audric Estime. Seems like the kind of kid that could really make an impact and change the face of recruiting for Fuente (whose had trouble getting a productive RB in the house).

Is coronavirus over yet?

An early Hokies QB target for 2021, Walter Simmons III, committed to ECU today. He has connections to 904Hokie, and wish him all the best in college.

Oof.

Good for him. May he post season averages of 3000+ yds passing, 30+ tds, and 0 wins.

You seeing any chatter about IMG down here reaching out to players around the country that aren't having seasons to recruit them?

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I've seen a few guys do this in the last month of their own volition. I believe it was a Michigan QB commit who has already announced his intentions to play his SR year there due to the uncertainty around HS ball. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they have reached out to other top prospects.

It's starting to look like Miami will be another team to benefit from the pandemic dead periods. They just landed a 5* S/LB that was a Georgia lean for over a year, and are trending for local 5* DT Leonard Taylor and 5* CB Jason Marshall.

We've seen Miami squander plenty of talent over the years, but I certainly hope those guys end up sighting elsewhere.

Miami over UGA is bonkers to me. Spare me the Miami vs. Athens argument. Potentially earlier pt, maybe.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

I mean, Miami has a turnover chain. Hard to compete with that.

Shit...forgot about all the drip drop swaggy swag. Suck something awful UGA, South Beach it is!

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

The COVID-19 dead period might have something to do with it. Miami has all the talent in the world in its backyard.

All the more reason that someone would want to branch out to a smaller community, no? Only 10% /s on that.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

This is the line of thinkIng Barton Simmons and Bud Elliot shared on their podcast recently.

A lot of people want instant gratification these days. Live in South Beach and enjoy the lifestyle they see every day through social media etc. in just a few months could be tempting to these type of people. Not saying that's the case for everyone, just my hypothesis for some.

How do we feel here?

Im feeling Decent

I've got this feeling
The tide is turning now baby
Funny feeling everything's gonna be alright now

How we feeling about this? Seems so up and down.

I hate rude behavior in a man. Won't tolerate it.

I think not being able to visit other universities and stuff sealed it for StateπŸ˜’πŸ˜”

I've got this feeling
The tide is turning now baby
Funny feeling everything's gonna be alright now

Agree

Stay on him until ncsu fires Doeren?

There'll have to be a season for that to happen

There will be.

Idk man. We'll know in two weeks if it'll be feasible. There's really two scenarios.

1) Falling new case numbers coincide with new immunity in populated areas. Louisiana, Arizona, and Florida are getting close to some level of herd immunity with Bama Miss and Georgia not far behind. R0 is currently below 1 in almost every state. It's possible the new mass of immune people along with caution and masks from everyone else could drive down the cases, but this seems like wishful thinking to me.

2) Current trends continue and new spikes happen from sending everyone back to school. This is a far more likely scenario and could lead to disaster. It'd mean a lot of colleges sending students home (think of the risk posed to janitors, cafeteria workers, etc.). Once the students get sent home football gets cancelled. Or this would at least be true of NC State, the team in question. Chancellor Woodson said so in the Wednesday press release.

Any combination of 1 and 2 I would include in scenario 1. If the students stay on campus we probably have a season. If new case numbers fall for the next month we probably have a season. Just don't think either of those are likely.

As long as Beau Davidson doesn't fire off a tweet burning that bridge.

Marshall University graduate.
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Formerly known as JWillHokieAlum.

I see on the Google sheet that we're still in it for Tywone Malone. Got a #condiment here in NJ that he's focusing on schools who will let him play baseball too

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Happy to see we are still recruiting NJ hard.

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Thanks, I should've done that. My buddy coaches baseball and was chatting with Tywone's coach at a recent exhibition

Not coincidentally, he said he was the most physically imposing baseball player he's ever seen, and was surprisingly agile for a dude his size felding at first base

(Edit: two words)

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Do you know if we are actively trying to recruit him?

I have no program connections πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I compared all the ranked players for VT with the composite vs the 247 score. What is shown is rounded and multipled by 100 for a visual compare. Interestingly UVA is 100% dead on to 7 decimal places. VT has a bump up for the 247 rankings, and Bama has a bump down (though i through them in for another data point and it looks to be a bad point as 247 doesn't give top in rankings as much as the composite does).

UVA Composite 247 VT Composite 247 Bama Composite 247
OT 90 90 CB 89 90 OT 100 98
DE 89 88 WR 88 88 DT 99 95
QB 89 88 S 86 88 OT 99 99
OT 87 87 QB 86 85 WR 98 94
ATH 86 88 WR 86 88 DE 98 95
QB 86 88 DE 86 86 OG 98 94
ATH 86 84 WR 86 87 WR 97 93
WR 86 87 ATH 85 86 LB 95 95
ATH 86 87 DE 85 86 WR 94 93
OG 85 86 S 85 85 LB 93 91
CB 85 84 LB 85 87 S 93 90
RB 85 84 RB 85 85 C 92 90
S 85 85 ATH 84 84 LB 91 91
OT 85 84 LB 84 84 ATH 89 88
S 84 85 CB 84 83 CB 88 90
CB 84 85 OG 79 77 DT 87 88
ATH 84 83 RB - -
CB 83 81
ATH 83 84
85.68421053 85.68421053 85.18 85.56 94.43 92.75