"If there's no season, we will be f*****."

Stadium surveyed FBS athletic directors to gauge their thoughts on whether or not the 2020 football season would happen. They all gave it 5 of 10 confidence or better to be played. However, it's early on in the decision making process.

In a survey conducted by Stadium, all 130 FBS athletic directors were asked to rank their optimism on the upcoming season being played from "1" (will not be played) to "10" (definitely will be played). Of the 130 ADs contacted during the past week, 112 participated in the anonymous survey.

None of the ADs gave lower than a "5" ranking (meaning a 50/50 chance there is no season). However, several admitted they probably provided a higher-numbered response because they wanted to remain positive and optimistic about having the season.

"I'm optimistic we'll have a season," a Power Five AD said. "But, ask me again in May what I think."

The most popular response was a "7" ranking from 27 percent of the ADs, followed by an "8" ranking from 24 percent and a "5" ranking from 18 percent of the ADs.

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If we're aren't back (playing) by the fall, it will look like the Great Depression, and we will be in soup lines.

Not to mention the wave of depression sweeping the nation as millions of football fans have to go without for the first time since...WWII?

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Do you think they will maintain the 6' separation in the soup lines?

Probably not, if the lines at Costco and other places with limited entry are any indication...

Can't even have soup lines once society collapses. Man, the coronavirus can go jump in a lake.

My costco (Atlanta) had 6' between people in line. They had people enforcing it as well. It was nice.

EDIT: If someone gets too close to you in public, just start coughing.

EDIT #2: the above comment was a joke. If someone gets too close just kindly say, 'excuse me, I'm trying to practice social distancing. Can you please stand 6 feet away?'

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Unfortunately we don't have one but the one near my family in Winchester apparently didn't have someone enforcing the protocols.

Man, I had to take something back to Lowe's today, and the guy behind me in line kept creeping up behind me while I was diligently maintaining social distance from the person in front of me. At what point does it become acceptable to get ugly with these people not taking this seriously?

Say to him "Excuse me, no offense, but you're standing too close and making me uncomfortable". If at that point, he doesn't back off or says something smart, it's that time :)

Let me know when you find out, because I'm about there myself after today's grocery store trip.

We are at that point... I simply turn around, smile and say, "I'm trying to love my neighbor can you love yours and back up a little bit please?"

Most people are very apologetic... And honestly at this point I'm not terribly concerned about offending someone. My statement is more about helping everyone than simply helping myself.

Is coronavirus over yet?

You're a lot nicer than I'm going to be if I need to venture out. Since I work from home and my wife can't, she's handling all the essential shopping for now, although I realize it's probably pointless since we live together.

If I go out, you best believe I'm open carrying a 44 magnum, that'll keep most people at a reasonable distance.

(TIC, sorta)

If you're going to Lowe's then carry some lumber around with you, make a few turns with the lumber and people will stand back.

I was gonna say carry a 6' pole, but an 8' stud seems even more effective

My wife says I'm a her 6' stud!

My 6' line and the next one in front of me for customer service counter was separated by the entrance to the store, and that spot was also occupied by an apparently abandoned lumber cart. Some guy just cut in front of me and got behind the cart since it looked like no one else was in line (when in fact I had to keep my distance while letting people flow into the store right in front of me).

I didn't have the heart to engage him so I just started scanning to make sure no one else did the same and let it go (I was already in pajamas due to unplanned stop and it's a good time to just be polite).

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Please accept this as a joke and not advice. Coughing is way more dangerous than a lurker in a checkout line.

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EDIT: If someone gets too close to you in public, just start coughing.

This is why I've been carrying around a cattle prod when I have to go in public.

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I've read in a few places that 6' isn't nearly enough anymore and that just breathing can spread it.

Possibly. Maybe not. But 6' is a measure that most people can understand and comprehend, and work within in the real world. Fauci addressed the 27' claim yesterday.

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Here's a (completely non-political) interview of Dr. Fauci. He explains that technically, the virus could hover in the air, but it's quite unlikely that you'll contract it this way, and that the major concern is droplets (aka being coughed on), surfaces, and not washing your hands.

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Unfortunately there are other "experts" saying differently. For every opinion by one expert we have the opposite from another. I just know that if I sneeze accidentally before covering my mouth 6' isn't going to cut it very often at all. Have you read the article about the church choir that were distanced, did not sneeze or cough, but 75% ended up with Covid-19?

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-29/coronavirus-choir-...

We will not know many details about anything for a very long time unfortunately.

What stood out to me the most in this article was how unusual the circumstances were; you have a bunch of people singing (aka sucking in and blowing out A LOT of air), presumably standing in (basically) the same spot for a significant amount of time, all staying in a single room. From my interpretation of the article, there's no evidence that virus was not spread at a previous event. There's just so little known here.

There's a big difference between this situation and standing in line at costco for 3 minutes while you're standing 6' away from someone else. As Fauci says, contracting the virus via breathing it in the air is possible, but unlikely.

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Like I said, some people have opinions of what is possible and some people have the opposite opinion of what is possible. I like to lean more to the side of better safe than sorry.

Brian Kelly says his drop dead date (pardon the Pun) is July 1... he says he can't get his team ready in time after that.

Its like you don't even need to be at the top of a 40 foot cherry picker to see this storm coming

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I laughed so hard at this I woke the 2 year old from his nap.

Warning- Filter lost.

"Look at this... This is just spectacular.... These people are losing their minds"

STICK IT IN HAS RETURNED!!!

Oof that's killer

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I would think they would try to postpone the season before they outright cancel it. way to money involved just to cancel. if they can by time and start the season in October or November, take a quick break during Christmas and finish up in January would be better than completely cancelling the season.

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A reschedule of more than 1 or 2 weeks is very unlikely. School schedules, stadiums booked for other events, and existing TV windows would be very difficult to work around.

Money talks though. TV windows can always be adjusted, and schools will find a way to make it work. Football + Basketball pay the for the whole AD department, especially on the lower end of D1 with the guarantee games. If football can be played, they're going to find a way to make it happen IMO

Why can't these schools use the billion dollar war chest there to "pay the players" like Bilas says? He says there is plenty of money to pay hoops players. Just use that until things get back to normal. Billions I'm told.

It opens pandora's box with both 'official employment' issues and title IX issues. Hence why a lot of people prefer the olympic model.

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I honestly wouldn't be upset if the football bubble burst a little bit. Not having it for a season would suck but I think it would force a lot of contingency plans to that schools would have to think about how they're reinvesting money and everything else.

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I think that seeing the football bubble burst would result in more inequality throughout the sport. There's probably 20 or so teams that would be fine. The rest would be gutted. VT is in the latter category. Loosing a year of football revenue would set us back so far.

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I dunno, the Alabamas of the world rely on that SEC revenue to pay their absurd saleries. They pay their coaches and facilities so much and rely on ticket and SEC money. I think everyone would be fucked but it might bring the arms race back down to Earth and force people to realize "hey we cant spend this much" and hopefully bring some much needed regulation to the sport

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That realization would last until 2022 at the latest.

I don't have the source handy but I saw (on cfb Reddit) that LSU's football program generated $56m last year while all other sports lost a total of $23m. Just trying to add a data point.

I saw this as well. If we missed out on a football season, and schools got no football revenue (This may not be accurate; I understand that there are insurance policies in case a season gets canceled, but I'm not sure how they work/pay out), I think about 1/3 of FBS schools would cut football, and 2/3 of FBS schools would cut Olympic sports.

I don't think you'll see the 'bubble burst'

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Considering how football subsidizes some schools' entire athletic departments... that's not a scenario I want to see played out.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

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Possibly

We also know that there are a lot of schools out there that cook the books to make it seem like their margins are far smaller than they really are. It would be interesting to see which ones miraculously find the cash to keep themselves afloat if they suddenly don't have the 8 or 9 figure revenue stream from football this year.

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There are a handful of schools that wear blue that should be alright regardless assuming basketball season doesn't get pushed back too.

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I would say all the finance stuff in sports is funny and that all teams do the funny math, it's not quite cooking the books, but my assumption is that all spending is lower than what is actually reported.

I know in pro sports all players are counted as depreciable assets so they basically count the players salary twice. Some how that is legal, not sure, but every pro team does it. My assumption is that there is a lot of "cost" items that are in multiple years of the budget for tax purposes even though they had been fully paid for up front.

P.S. this is one of the main reasons cubicles exist. It's as cheap to build a wall as it is to buy a cubicle, but walls you dont get to count on taxes, while cubicles you can.

P.S. this is one of the main reasons cubicles used to exist. It's as cheap to build a wall as it is to buy a cubicle, but walls you dont get to count on taxes, while cubicles you can.

Fixed that for you. With the onslaught of open seating in many corporations, the days of the cubicle are sadly numbered. And don't get me wrong, cubicle farms sucked, but they were a hell of a lot better than what we have now.

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What do you mean used to??? My office has four walls and no windows (lower management, upper management gets a window) but outside of the offices is a bunch of cubicles for the project engineers and technicians.

Give it some time.

A lot of the IT industry has completely scrapped the concept of cubicles, at least here in the RTP. Everything is now open seating, where you have half-walls separating yourself from everyone around you. In many places, the concept of an assigned desk has been eliminated, where you have to sign in every day and find a desk to sit in.

At least in my previous role, all manager offices were eliminated as well. Only upper level executives had offices, but they were walled with windows, and you were supposed to keep your door open at all times.

And yes, noise is a HUGE issue with this setup. Its so bad that many companies (my current one included) have to install white noise machines into the ceiling to help drown out background noise. In my previous job, you could literally hear the conversations teams were having on the other side of the building.

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I was deployed in 2013/14 to Kuwait and the 2 star DCG-Operations wanted to go to that concept. At one time he said "the walls are coming down." He got the idea from one of the tech firms that went to that and claimed it fostered collaboration.

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I actually read a quote from a study somewhere that more people started working with headphones on when walls came down due to the noise and it hampered collaboration vs when cubicle walls were up

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They do, I interviewed places like this, I told them no due to their distracting work environment.

You'd think this would be a potential death blow for G5 programs, especially those that are private like Rice, Tulane, SMU, etc etc

Soccer leagues in Europe (and on other continents, one would assume) that are a bit down the pecking order are currently having the same issues.

The thing with the private schools is that you never know how deep their pockets are. Rice's endowment is $6.4B. For reference, VT's endowment is $1.35B.

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It's worth noting that most of endowments are tied to specific usage. So, perhaps a good chunk of that $6.4B or $1.35B can be used on sports, but perhaps only small percentage. I would imagine that highly academic school like Rice would have a high percentage of endowments that cannot be used for sports.

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Isn't Rice in Texas? Plenty of that money will be allowed to cover that sport if needed I'm sure.

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Hear me out on this, this is where the big boys or blue bloods financially lend a hand. Like how the premier league should use their financial prowess to help out the lower leagues in England not the government. There is enough money to solve this issue but the issue is the ones with it need to be the helping hand because without all the lower teams the big boys would lose it all in my opinion. Take away the championship from the EFL and what do you have?

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Rice can buy the SEC if they choose.

There are going to have to be a whole lot of creative ideas to keep even large athletic departments intact if football is cancelled.

Obviously it wouldn't make up for lost TV revenue, but Tech should consider offering to convert season ticket purchases to Hokie Club donations worth extra priority points as an alternative alongside refunds.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

They might have too. They have already accepted the money for the fall tickets.

I will be fine not having football season. At least I'll be able to enjoy the fall more. Breathe the fresh mountain air of Blue Ridge. Enjoy the color changes of the leaves.

But that's just me.

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Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

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I mean, don't give up all hope.

I mean, why not do both?

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I find it hard to believe predictions like this so far out because no one really knows. But if people keep refusing to quarantine it could be there is no football. Way too soon to know.

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Sure would have been nice to have that ACCN money coming in the past few years like it was supposed to.

Or.... even SECN money if we had made the jump years back.

(Yes, I said that just to stir up discussion.)

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Only if you think VT would have been stockpiling that money and not spending it as fast as it came in.

I actually think that conferences like the SEC are going to be hurting badly if football doesn't happen this year. Their budgets depend on insanely high revenue streams from that sport, and if it doesn't happen, that could be a blow that would take a very long time to recover from.

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I actually think that conferences like the SEC are going to be hurting badly if football doesn't happen this year.

How terrible. I mean, darn.

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if for safety, then there might not be a season

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I don't know, it might be good for contraction of division 1 teams. However, I think if this does happen, title IX will come into play and you could see a reduction in the number of football scholarships at the D1 level. Now, talk about a field leveling occurrence if 95 scholarships when to like 60-65 because women's sports had to be dropped due to revenue loss.

This is very interesting.

oh yeah, cuz I just love the idea of playing Pitt in mid-March

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Not sure I could get my wife to any games if we started in January...

Then again it was 83 in Christiansburg over the weekend.

Hell I don't even know what I would do and I haven't missed a home game since 2008. Winter time is reserved for hitting the slopes (this year's disaster of a winter notwithstanding).

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I noted it above, but it's really early and everything is on the table.

Models are and always have been bullshit!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

I took a HEC-RAS course a few years ago and the instructor started the course off with a great quote:

"All models are wrong, some are useful."

I think about that every time I see one now.

The problem with some folks is they hear this quote (without understanding) and assume all models are wrong and should be ignored.

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Models are only as good as the data they are built with. We currently have a ton of data on other diseases and how they spread, but basically no data on COVID-19. Therefore you are left with an enormous confidence interval on all of the current models.

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All models are wrong, but some are useful. If you think otherwise, then don't watch the weather channel.

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The difference is that the weather doesn't change it's behavior based on the model. When it comes to modeling the stock market for example, behavior changes based on the model, making it more difficult to predict.

EDIT: To be clear, I am not doubting the validity of any COVID-19 model, and I strongly agree with eshiben 's comments below. Just responding to a comment in a vacuum

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I cannot stress enough that this is a terrible attitude to take towards models. Sure dont take them as gospel but a ton of great information can be drawn from them. Advanced statistics and dynamics typically go into making my models work and I highly doubt that the medical fields are all that different. Entire careers are spent verifying their accuracy and precision and proving their worth and shortcomings at predicting the future and a lot of them are REALLY good.

I'm not saying they're perfect but you can absolutely draw a ton of accurate conclusions from them.

An example of how hard it is to predict the future. Try to write down the conversations you will have with your wife or roommate for the next 24 hours. In the next 6 hours you might have a good idea based on what's going on in your immediate bubble. Beyond that degrees of uncertainty may start influencing your decisions and as such impact your conversations making your prediction wrong. You might still cover some of the topics you wrote down and predicted and have the same number of conversations that you predicted and you might get the overall gyst of the conversations right (trends) but it's really difficult to predict the future perfectly and if you're looking for reasons to throw out the results you're missing the point

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I really think it boils down to the fact some people fundamentally don't understand that statistics is the science of measuring uncertainty. If a model says something has a 95% chance of occurring, and 95/100 that's actually what happens, that's a good model. But people will cite those other 5 times as proof that the whole model is garbage.

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I honestly don't know what you were expecting when you posted this (ridiculous) take on a forum full of engineers and scientists.

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Drop the exhibition games and start in October.

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An interesting point here, seeing as how the ACC and SEC only have 8 conference games compared to the 9 of the number conferences. Would they all go for a 9 game schedule, giving the ACC and SEC a non-conference game? The traditional rivalries would probably stay intact as the ninth game. So the rest of the teams have to decide if they're going to pair off with the rest of the ACC/SEC or go for a G5 or FCS.

But then there's Notre Dame. And that's probably going to be one of the biggest hurdles to a shortened schedule with no or minimal non-conference games.

Forget that. Drop the joke that GT is going to be and keep that Penn State game.

I'd rather the ACC set Notre Dame free fuck em they wont fully join because they think theyre to good for that. Let em rot in no mans land.

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ND is one of the programs certain to come out the other side of this relatively unscathed. Even with our fairly limited contract with them, their stability could help save the ACC's non-football sports, and the guaranteed football games may help as well. So, no, don't "set Notre Dame free fuck em".

You can't be serious... They would be playing soccer and hoops in the Big East or AAC if not for the ACC. You have the partnership backwards.

And if they were in the Big East or the AAC they would be bringing stability to those leagues instead. They are in the ACC, and they are one of very few ACC schools that are practically guaranteed to survive with minimal cuts, and that may help stabilize the non-football ACC sports.

Outside of women's hoops, they are run of the mill in the other ACC sports- nothing special. Duke Women's lacrosse will come out unscathed too- they have plenty of money, but the media doesn't slurp their 1970's glory years. That's the difference. One glance at the ACC TV deal with ESPN tells you all you need to know about how overvalued "the ND Mystique" is in modern college sports.

I'm not saying they're particularly *good* at any particular sport, only that they have enough monetary support outside of media rights and football tickets that they shouldn't have to cut hardly anything. That can only be said about a handful of other ACC schools.

It's great that Duke has enough money to keep their women's lacrosse program afloat, but there are only 8 women's lacrosse programs in the ACC. If half of them are shuttered, suddenly the ACC can't field women's lacrosse any more, and Duke needs to find a new home for that program. The same can be said about just about any sport the ACC manages. The ACC needs each program they can get in all the non-revenue sports, so they don't have to cut many sports as a result of this.

I half wonder if this is going to be a nudge to get ND in the league for football. While they certainly have the economic means to float anything, it gives them a certainty in terms of scheduling they might not otherwise have.

While I appreciate the optimism, there's no way anything would nudge them towards full membership before their NBC deal expires after 2025. It's possible that they could change their minds at that point, but probably not unless there's a change to the playoff system to make it even more difficult for an Independent program to earn a bid.

I cant see them making the playoffs again after their last shot at it. Undefeated, passed the so called eye test and then got their ass put on a plate. The committee wont forget that next time they walk their easy schedule and pretend to be a big boy. A decade ago playing stanford, USC, Navy etc was a good thing now those programs are in odd places and they could seriously benefit from conference play/championship games.

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The only way any undefeated P5 team doesn't make the CFP is if there are at least four other undefeated teams. The committee cares about number of losses above all else.

Also, ND did the same thing in 2012 and got pants by Bama in the natty.

The committee is supposed to make their decisions based only on the results of the current season. I would be disappointed (but also amused) if Notre Dame went 12-0 and were left out of the playoffs, because that tells me the committee was looking at past season's results when setting the field.

The ACC gave Notre Dame's Olympics the "SEC" of minor sports and allowed their football team to remain independent with a modest association of 5 games and bowl poaching without bowl money sharing. Why in the world would Notre Dame ever join a football conference?

A) Notre Dame joins the ACC's shared bowl revenue pool when they play in any bowl game besides the Orange Bowl, and as far as I can tell they aren't included in the shared bowl revenue pool when they miss a bowl game (unlike the 14 conference members), so your statement is false.

B) I already stated the main reason that they might join a football conference in the post you just replied to.

Notre Dame's fencing program has been pretty strong even during the Kaidanov era at Penn State for what it's worth. (Kaidanov is NCAA Fencing's Wooden) Second most national championships of any school.

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Way to much money involved, they will get big dollars sports back up this fall even it is in empty stadiums

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Empty stadiums with older coaches in the booth would probably be pretty feasible and safe by that time

There would still be between 500-1000 people for "empty games". Players, coaches, refs, sidelines game staff (down and distance guys), water boys and medical staff for each team, TV and radio staffs, media, security, etc etc.

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Yeah but if people are all going back to work by then anyway will that be much different

Yeah I mean we are going to have to get back to some normalcy at some point. Stay at home orders can't last until a vaccine is available.

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With proper protocol in place, it would be fairly trivial to limit it to 200 or so, by imposing some sort of game day roster limits and further restrictions on sideline personnel and having separate entrances and work areas for the media, stadium employees, etc.

Still gonna suck not being able to watch in person, but that's what HD television is for.

So we would limit teams ability to coach and game plan? I'd rather just not play the season than play a season with a giant * next to all the games.

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Where did I say anything about an ability to coach and game-plan? Limit game-day rosters to 70 or so, have all 10 coaches and another 10 staffers per team (medical personnel, etc), and add in the officials and some other miscellaneous staff and you're at about 200.

Limiting game day rosters limiting staff. There are more than 10 medical staff present each game alone. So yes if you limit what teams can bring to a game you are limited that game.

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I thought Nick Saban already told them that.

And the midwest

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Even if the season is a go, I'd imagine that the lingering psychological effects of this will have a profound negative impact on ticket sales. Maybe more so in certain geographies than others, but I'd imagine mass congregations of people will have a stigma surrounding it for quite some time.

Also, NC State (and I would think the entire UNC system in general) just went to online-only classes for the entire summer, according to the email my wife, who works there, just got. This would possibly put all NC public universities in the same boat.

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No Football = University's & schools being forced to cut other athletic sports. It's already being talked about in some SEC meetings and G5 would have to cut a chunk as well. I'd put it 70/30 that football happens at some time this year.

Here's an easy to read example of the issue

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$33M in total profit is pretty good though. I wonder where all of that money goes.

Why is there a difference in men's and women's golf? Track and field match.

I don't have any actual insight, but I looked at LSU's athletic website. I noticed that they had 10 men golfers and only 8 women that year. It also looks like the men had more events, including the national championship.

Track and Field had the same number of men and women, and they don't have separate schedules.

Men usually play further away and more rounds (3 vs 2) for a tournament. Extra nights for hotels, meals, etc.

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I like it! Lets adapt and move forward.

Could get really interesting with the portal and players becoming eligible for the second half of the season.

We'll really see who the real coaches are. If they are able to adjust during the break.

And a bowl game in May? I could get behind that if it means I can play golf around the location....

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Also a good real-time test case for wrapping the soccer season around both semesters. This has been discussed for a few years.

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ODU just eliminated their Wrestling program of 60 years, citing coronavirus budget concerns as part of the reason

"We are saddened to have to make this decision, but it's one that was made with the long-term best interest of the athletics program in mind," said director of athletics Dr. Camden Wood Selig. "No one wants to reduce opportunities for young men to compete and represent Old Dominion, but we are required to be responsible with departmental resources. Our decision became even more clear during this coronavirus crisis, which we know will have significant impact on future athletics budgets. This decision will better allow the remaining sports to compete at a national level."

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If we don't have a football season, you can pretty much kiss most Olympic sports goodbye.

ODU has got some PROBLEMS:

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BSME 2009

I have a strong feeling that they're not alone.

Maybe we can beat them the next time we travel there

Maybe we won't have to travel there again.

They had to make progress towards becoming Title IX compliant too.

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