Other Basketball: Transfer Portal

I figured it was worthwhile opening a discussion on portal transfers especially those inside the ACC.

To get us started, Jordan Goldwire from Duke announced he will be transferring. He led Duke in assists and steals. He joins Jaemyn Brakefield in transferring from Duke.

Just in this last week, UNC's Walker Kessler, Georgetown's Qudas Wahab, Florida's Noah Locke, Indiana's Kristian Lander, and West Virginia's Emmitt Matthews, just to name a few, have all entered their name into the transfer portal. All of these players either started or played a significant role on their team this past season.

Going to be another big moving off-season especially with Covid providing the extra year.

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Kessler would be a nice get.

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Priority CG target out of high school (Suffolk, VA) Jayden Epps committed to Providence. That stings, but I'm mentioning it here because it could impact things for VT and Providence in the race for Louisville transfer Bobby Pettiford, Jr.

Pettiford isn't a transfer, he's a 2021 recruit who asked to be released from his LOI at Louisville after they let Dino Gaudio go

6'8" 210 Furman PF Noah Gurley is in the transfer portal, and the Hokies are interested. He's hearing from Marquette, Xavier, Arkansas, Georgia, Texas A&M, Marshall, and Auburn. Gurley averaged 15.4 points, 5.8 rebounds and 2.5 assists this season.

So how many are we targeting realistically at the moment?

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I'd put the o/u at 2

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Depends on who is actually staying. If Pemsl is done, we need another big man, preferably one who can push Aluma and Mutts for legit minutes. I'm assuming Bede is done playing? So maybe one guard/wing if that's the case.

Jayden Gardner of ECU has entered the transfer portal and Chester Frazier liked the tweet. Not a true center, but seems like he would be a big "get" at 6'7" and 235, with career averages of 18 points and 8.7 rebounds.

"That's it guys. Let's get out of here. That cold drink's waitin' on us, let's go." - Mike Young after win no. 300.

Tech reached out to him, along with a bunch of other big programs. And this is just within the first couple hours of entering the portal, I'm sure there will be way more

Recruiting is just like dating. Someone changes their status to "single" on social media and within minutes the DMs fill up with "Hey girl"

Would be a hard get for VT because he plays the 4.

Are we sure that both Aluma and Mutts will return?

Why wouldn't they?

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Mutts already has a degree and is almost a year into a master's. Aluma will probably have his degree this May. It's not uncommon at all for guys with degrees to leave their remaining eligibility on the table.

Or they could transfer again, that's not unheard of.

If they're not pro prospects, which right now they aren't, it is extremely unlikely they would leave before exhausting their eligibility. Mutts has already transferred twice, and Aluma transferred once to follow his coach, they seem to me the least likely guys on the entire roster to transfer.

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Mutt's dad (i think) posted something kinda cryptic after the loss vs. Florida, but he deleted it. Most likely they'll both be back, but you never know these days

Just a point of differential on that, while neither has NBA prospects right now, they both will easily find work at the G League or European level, so playing additional seasons here is one less year they can play paid basketball.

How often do guys leave early by choice (discounting next year's extra Covid year) when they know they have zero shot at the NBA?

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In 2019, more than half of the 80+ undergrads who left school early for the nba draft went undrafted.

That's not my point. Those guys left to get drafted or at the very least sign with a team. Are there guys with no shot who leave early to go to Europe?

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I am not sure there is a good source of data for that but this year is very unique in that some of these players wouldn't be "leaving early" since they have degrees, some have graduate degrees as well. Economics of making 6+ figure salaries for even one extra year has to be an enticing opportunity. Athletic careers are typically limited to a 3-4 year window.

Yeah I'm saying excluding an extra Covid year. Let's save this argument for another day. This subthread is getting pretty narrow on my mobile feed.

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Mutts will be a 3

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. I hope not. That sadly benches either Radford or Alleyne, probably the latter. Which I think is a bad choice. And if we start Murphy-Radford-Mutts-Aluma-other big man, we might have horrible shooting numbers. I don't think that's a very well balanced lineup IMO.

Jayden Gardner would instantly be probably the best player on this team. I have been able to watch him dominate several times the last three years despite being the main defensive focus of every team ECU plays. I also know a few people very close to that program.

Unfortunately I haven't heard whether he has much Tech interest, I didn't even know they contacted him. Apparently Arkansas, Miami and UVA are all pushing very hard. He's also heard from Keatts at State and is originally from Raleigh.

He'd be an incredible get, hopefully coach Young gets up with him in the next couple days and can work some magic.

Good and bad news. CMY is now in the mix! But the bad news is he really liked liked his call with TB 🤢

Oh dear god I would absolutely love it if we got him. Yes, it would be nice to snag him over teams like UVa and NCSU, but god I would love to outrecruit Buzz like that.

"I have a PLAN. You just need to have a little goddamn faith, Whit. I just need. more. MONEY." - Justin van der Linde

Your salt levels are looking pretty high, man. I don't think his decision is going to come down to Mike Young vs. Buzz

I don't think he fits what NC State does offensively at all, I don't think he'll end up there

Qudas.... plz

Edit: I really hope we land a big man/center

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

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If anyone is interested, Isaiah Wilkins is transferring to Longwood. He could barely get minutes for Wake Forest this year, and that was a bad team. Really odd last 2 years for him, he showed a lot of potential in his freshman year, when he was a good role player for our sweet 16 team

Sad to think about the potential of that team if Clarke and Nolley were eligible and J-Rob stays healthy all year. No way Wilkins is even used in that situation.

Buzz's plan was to redshirt him, but he said he developed very quickly and was ready to play. (plus the Clarke suspension and Nolley eligibility factoring in I'm sure)

With Roy retiring, any UNC players/recruits we realistically might have a shot at?

Anthony Harris was a high ranking Buzz commit then decommit but just has not looked impressive.

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

He was injured the first half of his freshman year and then looked good the second half of the season. Then I think he was injured off and on this season plus there were 5 star freshy guards that were able to sneak in front of him.

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Another big dude hit the portal yesterday. Wichita State is losing 6'10" 232 lb Josaphat Bilau from Ohio via France and recruited by Georgetown, GT, Illinois, Texas Tech, Tennessee, and others. Worth mentioning Georgetown may be looking to replace Qudus Wahab, who is now at Maryland. Bilau didn't light up the stat sheet because he's dealt with injuries and only saw about 60 minutes of playing time over 12 games.

Dating back to his redshirt year during the 2019-20 season, WSU coaches raved about Bilau's versatility in a 6-10 frame. Bilau played more like a small forward than he did a center, as he could dribble and pass like a guard and even occasionally stroke in a three-pointer. His athleticism and length made him a terror in practices, as WSU was tempted to pull his redshirt late in the 2019-20 season because of how well he was performing in practices.

Recall his film and he looked like a potential

I seem to recall some VT involvement as a recruit. His film was eye popping.. Never saw him play at WSU though.

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

I can't imagine we'd go for him when we already have one raw big man with plenty of eligibility left (Ojiako)

You may have caught Tanner Groves's 35-point performance against 3-seed Kansas in the tournament. Those performances will not be returning to the Big Sky champs at Eastern Washington U. as the 6'9" 235-lb junior has hit the portal. According to a tweet from Groves, the Hokies have expressed interest in the SF who averaged 17.2 points and 8 rebounds per game in 2021.

His beard game is strong.

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Dude...this guy is a monster

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I will not complain about our uniforms after seeing that.

Nah, our unis still trash

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This is an opinion, it isn't a violation of CG. If you got a problem with my opinion reply, don't hide behind downvotes. Our bball uniforms look bad. The maroon numbers/words on orange or the orange on maroon is ugly. I've never been a fan of the new font. I don't understand the side piping or whatever you call it, the WBB jerseys has a cool Hokiestone pattern on the sides of their jerseys. The basketball jerseys aren't great, but at least they're better than the baseball jerseys which look like bad warmups or street vendor knockoffs.

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I think our basketball jerseys are just fine. They're pretty standard, with school colors. I like utilizing the school colors in the numbers and words instead of plain white anyways.

I agree that the jerseys have gotten progressively worse, but I wouldn't say they're trash. As has been previously said, they're pretty much standard/average jerseys.

I've always liked the scripts:

And the Delaney-era ones were pretty good. I liked this font better than the current one:

Big fan of the Delaney-era font. I really hate what we switched to.

I have a maroon nike VT shirt with this font and then basically the exact same shirt in the current font. The current one's maroon looks a little off and the orange font looks neon-colored. The rebrand a few years ago was a big step backwards IMO.

by "the maroon looks a little off" do you mean "we went from burnt orange and chicago maroon to neon orange and kinda purpley" ?

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Yep. That is exactly what I mean.

I don't hate the current, but I think they missed the mark on coloring. The numbers on the maroons should be white with orange border, and the numbers on the orange should be white with maroon border. The way they have it now creates a visual mess that is hard to see from a distance. Interestingly, I actually much prefer the orange number with maroon border on the current whites than maroon number and orange trim. Visually, you can actually see the border of the numbers, which is good.

Other than that? Don't really care, as long as they stay away from slapping a gigantic VT on the fronts. Those jerseys look like trash.

"I have a PLAN. You just need to have a little goddamn faith, Whit. I just need. more. MONEY." - Justin van der Linde

If we sign him, Beard of de Christopher might have to change his username.

Didn't see it mentioned, unless I missed it, but Tanner Groves to Oklahoma

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Interesting transfer prospect with whom the staff had a Zoom call just yesterday. 6'9" 223-pound junior Filip Rebraca is transferring from North Dakota after a season that saw him average 16.8 points and 7.6 rebounds. He also shot 50.6% from the field. A quick Google search reveals a lot of Iowa fan interest. He's also hearing from South Carolina, San Diego State, Minnesota, and others.

Virginia Tech: "We had a zoom yesterday and they gave me a quick rundown of what they have to offer and their resources. They told me that we will talk more basketball by the end of this week so they just showed me their facilities, their coaching staff, and generally introduced themselves to my dad and my god father. I'm impressed, I'm coming from a mid major D1 and they have a lot more resources and money that they can put in people who can help the staff, so it just looks like a really good place I can develop."
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"My decision will come down to three things," he said. "Academically I need a program that offers my masters degree in person because I'm an international student, second I want to go to a program that has a history of winning and a culture of winning. I want to play on the biggest stage and go to march madness. Lastly a team that can help develop my perimeter skills even more. I feel like I took a big step this year, but I want a team that will allow me to grow in that aspect and see the vision I have for myself."

A couple of things jump out at me. 1) Getting in the ear of his dad (former NBA and European player Zeljko) and godfather (George Grkinich, who played at Fresno State) because they're cited as his two strongest advisors in the process. And 2) he's got a Bachelor's in Economics and looking at business school for his grad work (ND's grad program is all online and, as an international student, he must take at least one in-person course).

Noah Locke to Louisville.

Ugh, have to hope Carlik Jones actually goes pro and doesnt return.

Louisville loading up on shooters.

Looks like Mac McClung has entered the portal as well.

That feeling when the SWVA contingent (we can smell our own) start getting triggered because Mike Young doesn't offer McClung.

via GIPHY

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

McClung is the SWVA equivalency of Laborn for 757 Hokies fans.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

He has had a better career at this point...Doubt he stays in College

I'm 100% triggered

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He sucks. Can't play dead in a western. Sucks

How do you really feel about him?

Was hoping it wasn't true but here it is official. Jayden Gardner to UVA. Ugh I hope Mutts eats him alive 🤢

drat

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Walker Kessler off the ACC radar. Auburn it is.

McNeilly would be another good guard addition. Problem at this point is, do we have too many guards? We have 6.

In a two-guard lineup, one of them probably isn't gonna get a chance to see the court

In a three-guard lineup, we might get all of them on the court, but that means Mutts, N'Guessan, Ojiako, and Hayes are likely on the bench for most of the game

In a four-guard lineup, you can add Aluma or Durr to that list.

We're perfectly even with 6 guards and 6 post players right now, with all the guards shorter than 6-5, and all the post players taller than 6-6.

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Sure, but in a five-guard lineup they'd all get a lot of run

/ssssomanyoptions

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

or that five-forward lineup

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Nah, we are going to run four forwards and a Center.

Problem at this point is, do we have too many guards?

Not at all, in fact the opposite may be true. We only have 4 guards capable of playing big minutes (Murphy, Radford, Alleyne, Cattoor) and 2 guards with virtually zero college experience (Maddox, Pedulla).

If anything, I think we don't have enough guard depth for 3 guard lineups. Ideally I would like another guard, or at least a wing who can shoot. If Maddox can take a huge step up and be relied on for 10-15 minutes vs legit competition, we would be in good shape as is.

We're perfectly even with 6 guards and 6 post players right now

I think you've got this one backwards too - i don't see how that's a good thing. You always need more guards/wings than post players, because you can only play two post players at a time. If Coach Young actually successfully deploys Mutts on the wing for big minutes, however, that would make the current roster look better logistically (though i would argue that using Mutts on the wing would not be good for our shooting and balance)

Probably related to Coach McNeilly departing A&M for Minnesota. Cashius is his nephew and Miller is also from Canada, so McNeilly was likely his primary recruiter.

Weird move for him, he's followed Buzz everywhere and it looks like he's moving from top assistant at A&M to 3rd assistant at Minnesota, if what I read is correct. But yeah, he's the guy that got the Canadian recruits, including Nickeil

I don't suspect that past ties to VT will come into play for either player. They were committed to Buzz Williams, not VT.

Put in Donlon

Henry Coleman III, 6'8" SF from RVA who played at Duke this year has entered the portal:

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I remember him deciding between us and Duke on the day we played them in football in 2019. Lost him and got stomped on the gridiron.

Don't see a downfall to contacting him and seeing his interest.

Knew the Duke commit was coming and still felt crushed. Would *love* to welcome him back.

Seems like on the twitters boohoo fans think they have a shot

I thought it was pretty obvious he made a mistake when he first committed

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Dad is a VT football alum

c'mon JC is not that old!

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Who would he have to marry to have a 6'8 son

Looks like the OKG type of players that were popular around here until 2 years ago isn't selling so well in Texas. Most of the A&M players are in the transfer portal.

Go Hokies!!

Buzz's rebuild is way off schedule as compared to VT days. Year 3 at VT he had it starting to roll with his guys in place (Med Hill, JRob, NAW, KJB). He's almost staring over year 3 at a and m

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Could he still be in year 1?

Vroom Vroom

No joke, out of the 16 players on their 2020/21 roster, 8 are in the portal

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When he got Seth Allen and Zach LeDay (they started playing year 2) that accelerated our rebuild by a couple years. With all the guys in the transfer portal it's somewhat surprising he hadn't made use of that as well as he did at VT (plus getting stars Jimmy Butler and Jae Crowder from JUCOs ay Marquette). It'll be interesting to see how year 3 goes

The problem is the portal is not a one-way street.

ya hate to see it

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I wonder how well Buzz's skill set translates to the portal era? I also wonder if he's nearing the end of his coaching run in general?

IIRC during several interviews while at VT he hinted about not wanting to coach for much longer. I envisioned A&M as his last coaching stop. If that tenure ends prematurely I'm not sure if that might change his plans one way or the other.

If he has been smart with his money he could be set for life. And Buzz is a smart cookie.

Oh yeah, I'm sure money is not an issue. He did some guest analyst work for the tournament a few years ago after our season was over, so he could probably do some TV work if he wanted to. Much less stress than coaching and probably a better work life balance. Maybe he could take Seth Greenberg's job again 😬

(yes i know he didn't directly follow Greenberg at VT)

Thank God you put that parenthetical comment in there. No telling how many replies your comment would have garnered.

Well Year 3 is really Year -3, so.