JULY 2022 RECRUITING THREAD PART II

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Why was last thread frozen? It was focused and not that long.....

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

Ahhh! Makes sense. I dont do Apple so i didn't check that thread. Thnx.

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

That is correct. Sorry I meant to post a message but was single parenting last night.

Great work by the TKP team, as always. Thanks for all you put into up keeping an awesome site!!

Looks like Takye Heath, who apparently is Macho Harris's cousin, is tearing it up at receiver on the camp trail. Can't embed, but rivals posted a video of him on Twitter.

Te to qb

That last move was filthy. I think he will blow up once their season starts.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

Is this Jahan Dotson?????

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay

I know June was packed with camps and then the dead period started. Are there any big events or visits expected before fall camp starts in about a month?

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

Kamen Smith to NC State. Was a NC State / VT battle.

Yeah all the CB's were to State, but his cover photo on twitter was all VT D Linemen. Thought he might have been a steal for us but the experts were right again

One of the Puccinelli clan is looking at the Hokies. Wow.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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I live <1 mile from his school (Dowling). Planning on going to a game or two to see him in action this fall.

"Give me a fuΒ’king beer", Anonymous Genius

Wear vt gear and bring a clipboard lol

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

4D Chess

Those were pretty throws in the clips. I like how Glenn and Bowen talked to him each on the same day and Pry has a call for next week with him.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

This is what we would call putting in effort

Not to brag or anything but a Roanoke native and relative of mine just committed to VT men's golf. Ashton Harper! 5* human.

Let's go...

Literally fam!

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Hokies! Fore!!!

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

4* edge from PA, CBs indicate PSU
https://247sports.com/player/tamere-robinson-46094935/

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I mean as long as it's not Miami right?

Nah I'd rather Miami get good recruits than Penn State

Miami just got a 5* Edge guy. They don't need to stockpile talent until we are too lol.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

They always stockpile the talent, they just can't coach it lol

there's a reason they went out and spent as much as they did on their new coaching staff, especially on defense. go check how many players are in the NFL who played defense for Kevin Steele, Charlie Strong, Joe Salave'a and Jahmile Addae (it's a lot)

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Oh yeah I'd hope they'd be able to coach up talent now with spending as much as they did lol. Was just pointing out that Miami recruiting talented players was a common thing in the past so them getting a 5-start edge guy isn't much a change.

Kinda makes you wonder: did Miami do a better job of seeing the writing on the wall regarding conference realignment and the move closer to a P2, and decide it's time to put up or risk being left out? Maybe they decided to go for broke to see if they can get "baaack" and become nationally relevant just before hell really breaks loose.

"Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!"

No - the university got a huge financial windfall from Covid - so much money that they could fully find all of their academic initiatives, and had money left over to send to athletics.

They just got lucky that their financial windfall came at the same time that the college football arms race reached the next level.

Twitter me

Interesting, I hadn't heard about this. What made them so special that they got a big windfall and other schools didn't?

[T]he school's hospital system raked in record profits last year during the devastating COVID-19 pandemic.

[T]he U threw some of that coronavirus cash at Mario Cristobal.

....

[T]he pandemic proved to be a boon to the University of Miami's healthcare operations, which was the school's strongest area of growth over the past year.

Miami officials openly stated they would funnel some of that reported $400 million profit into their struggling athletic program.

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Miami is a private university that can prioritize its spending however it chooses.

Column: Big-money coaches a symptom of misguided priorities

This is an opinion piece, but has facts of the situation and the storyline. I pulled the most pertinent facts from the article.

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The university of Miami owns a lucrative hospital, most other schools do not.

Here's an excerp from an article detailing the university's increase in revenue:

According to a report to its bondholders, the Coral Gables-based university posted a net income of $916.9 million for the fiscal year ended May 31, compared to net income of $98.8 million in the same period a year ago. Its operating income increased to $432.4 million, from $25 million. The biggest reason for its improvement was a growth in operating revenues, increasing to $4.1 billion, from $3.68 billion.

The bulk of UM's revenue came from its health care operations with $2.56 billion in revenue from patient care.

Here's two excerps from an article in the AP:

Fortunately for the University of Miami, the school's hospital system raked in record profits last year during the devastating COVID-19 pandemic.

Turning lemons into lemonade, the U threw some of that coronavirus cash at Mario Cristobal

You see, the pandemic proved to be a boon to the University of Miami's healthcare operations, which was the school's strongest area of growth over the past year.

Saying the quiet part out loud, Miami officials openly stated they would funnel some of that reported $400 million profit into their struggling athletic program.

The hiring of Cristobal, a former Hurricanes players who went 35-13 with a pair of Pac-12 titles in five years at Oregon, is a big part of the effort to restore the school to its 1980s and '90s gridiron glory.

Twitter me

Ahh gotcha, thanks for the explanation. When I read the original post I thought you meant the U had gotten some big Covid stimulus grant from the gov't lol

$14 Billion was given to the US Dept. of Education's Office of Postsecondary Education as the Higher Education Emergency Relief Fund, or HEERF. All higher education got Covid money if they asked for it.

Actually - they did get an 8 figure pay out from the CARES act in 2020. On mobile but I can dig up the article later.

Twitter me

Meh. Who cares about a team you only play every other year?

Carmelo Taylor flying up the latest 247 rankings from unranked to an 89 and #348 overall in the country. This dude WILL be special. If we land him it will be huge, we need a full sell from the whole staff. If we get the whole staff in PH to go visit I could see that really wowing him. Pry I hope you're reading

Go for it

I want him BAD

dilly dilly

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

plz

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

I teach at PH and can confirm, this kid can fly. Hope we can land him!

Go Hokies!

Hope you've made a good impression about Tech

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay

hope you showed up for class in your vt gear and brought a clipboard!

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I think Taylor is just one hint that this staff might be good at evaluating. They've been early on some guys like Taylor, Keys, Hughes, and Bass who were unranked with few offers and are now fairly highly ranked and in big P5 battles. We'll see if these evals are accurate especially when we're looking at the 24 class, but it's definitely something to keep an eye on. Do the guys we offer early end up highly ranked/with a lot of offers? Even if we aren't landing these guys it will still make us competitive on the field because the guys we do land will be good players.

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay

The thing is that our last staff did that too but the highly rated guys we brought in all wound up leaving and the rest of the classes were low 3*s with few offers

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Here's some names to watch as possible "big wins" in year 1 on the trail for this staff moving forward.

* Carmelo Taylor WR - 247 profile

* Jordan Bass LB - 247 profile

* Cameren Fleming CB - 247 profile

* Krystian Williams ATH - 247 profile

Do you know of any DL we're hot after? What ever happened to that excel spreadsheet that showed recruits and who was priority, in state, etc?

DL... your guess is as good as mine. I wouldn't be surprised to see us go JUCO/transfer there.

We were on EDGE Elijah Hughes for awhile, but he got the dreaded Stanford offer.

I was looking through DL yesterday like what are the potential targets and this was a guy I was thinking maybe the staff should go after. 6-6 275? Yes please.

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay

That google doc was maintained by someone at 247 i believe and just shared here for reference. I'll do some digging this week and see if i can find similar

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

2021 Big Board

Here's the big board from the last cycle. Not sure if this will help you all find this years (if there is one)

Vroom Vroom

Thank you!!!!!!!!

there is a 2023 tab at the bottom of the doc that at least has some level of updated info fyi

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

yesssss, this is what I was looking for!

Thanks for the list. These are exactly the type of high-ranking in-state dudes Tech needs to land in order to get back to what it once was. Honestly if we don't eventually start to win 3-4 guys out of the Virginia top 15-20 every year I don't see things getting too much better.

2/2 so far, would love to hit all 4!

VT '17

Dig a lil digging bc i was curious after our early July run of commitments --

In the much maligned, no good, very bad, awful 2020 recruiting, we had 3 commits at this point in the cycle: Lakeem Rudolph, Jordan Brunson, and Jalen Hampton. That class was only 16 commits in total after NSD and then further heavily supplemented by 8 additions from the portal

We are currently sitting at 15
commits for 2023.

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Basketball Commit Alert:

Brandon Rechsteiner. 3* PG out of Georgia. Not super highly rate, but a decent offer list.

247 Profile

This kid has had a really good summer circuit!

Also, he's Scott Steiner's kid

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

That's wild

Better than being Charley Steiners kid I guess

This Cam be a great week πŸ˜‰

TKPhi Damn Proud
BSME 2009

2 CBs in so far

His Twitter says he is a 4 star and #1 corner in VA, but 247 says otherwise? Is 247 out of date or are those from a different service?

Vroom Vroom

inflation running rampant i bet

rivals and espn also have him as a mid-to-high 3*

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

A much better offer list than years passed for us.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

Chipmunks, Kabobs, Dogs, Hokies, Tar Heels? I think we got a good shot, but the Kabobs have had some momentum lately.

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay

Who is the squirrel/chipmunk supposed to be?

I am not sure what to do with my hands now

Minnesota I believe

Vroom Vroom

I thought the Kabob was stick puppet, but then I also thought the chipmunk was a squirrel until I read your comment and looked again. Thanks for setting the record straight.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

the 2022 equivalent of the hat fake and i am HERE for it lol

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Lol, now that's some sauce. Hilarious.

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

I had a feeling he'd go to UGA and try to be the next Jordan Davis

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay

Interesting recruit. A lot of schools recruited him as an OL prospect. Not sure if he sticks with D at Georgia either

If there's any school willing to use someone that big on the DL, it's Georgia .

Landed Cam Fleming -- Carmelo Taylor next on the 31st?!

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Would be a huge win for the staff to get Taylor. Gamebreaking speed at WR.

I think we're going to need a few of those.

.... this is the most perfectly written thing I've ever seen on this site
-8300A_Hokie'12

His tweets are private (rare for a recruit, but I respect it), but he is moving back his commitment again. Probably a smart idea anyway. This could be one that goes down to the signing day wire. He wants to make sure he makes the right decision. I hope that he decides that VT is the right decision for his future.

If he moves it back closer to signing day and he has a big season, a lot of teams will come calling which they aren't right now. Committing early won't stop that from happening, but being uncommitted is a signal to other programs to jump in

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay

In his case it makes sense. He's sort of a late-riser on the scene. Lots of schools will continue to show interest when you've got that kind of speed. If he shows out on the field this fall as well then I'm sure his options will grow. Either way, you gotta win these kinds of battles one way or the other, and it would be a huge win if we can ink his name on the NLI come signing day.

100% agree it's the right move for him. I'd wait until late fall at least. But for us it could be a problem. Although tbf it's only a slightly bigger problem then if he committed now then continued to blow up.

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay

With the picture in the Tech jersey being the biggest and Penn State only having size small shirts on hand for his visit pic, we have to be in the driver's seat here right?

I am not sure what to do with my hands now

CB says Rutgers, Tea Leaves say his VT photo is the largest of them all

Son of Doc Gooden

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay

So you're saying we cracked the top 4?

Him coming here isn't a pipe dream

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay

Odd that 247 doesn't include Tech in the list of schools he's interested in even though we're in his top 4.

I don't think they have updated it yet since he just put out his top 4 yesterday on a Sunday afternoon

That's fair, but would have thought Tech would at least be on the list. Unless we weren't even being considered by him before and Pry made a big enough impression to go from Tech not being considered to top 4?

maybe the offer hadn't been reported, who knows. 247 usually a very good guideline but it's not the end all be all. i'd expect it to be updated soon

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Not a take

Here they come
Here comes the bastards
I heard it from a confidant
Who heard it from a confidant
They're definitely on their way

Take or not, what I was referring to is the schools listed that the athlete is interested in, offer or not (there's a check on Y/N in a column for if there's an offer, so definitely not only schools who've offered). Tech isn't on the list, so being in his top 4 SEEMS like it was an omission or we made up a lot of ground from him not being interested to one of his top 4.

#GC2VT

Keep the pipeline coming

TKPhi Damn Proud
BSME 2009

Ethan Albright's kid?

I didn't look it up, but I bet you're right. Same HS as Ethan.

Fun fact: I played against Ethan in HS in both football and baseball. Dude was a knuckleballer of all things.

"Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!"

???

This is the tweet:

Posted by 3* VT commit Dante Lovett of Dematha. He tagged 4* UNC commit Chris Culliver and uncommitted 3* (but rising) Carmelo Taylor from Patrick Henry in Roanoke.
EDIT: was missing the link to Carmelo Taylor's 247 profile.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

Flipping 4* players from UNC would be quite the nod to Mack Brown retiring and Pry taking over the VA/NC recruiting territory.

TKPhi Damn Proud
BSME 2009

Pry vs Bly! The worlds shortest recruiting rivalry

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay

One of the few recruits who would come to Blacksburg for a warmer winter

Carmelo Taylor and Moteque Rhames both picking up CBs to USCe πŸ˜”

UVA still likely threat #1 for Taylor if they offer. Really surprised they haven't, I'm sure they have to know that too. Really hope we find a way to pull this out but we're likely below USCE, UVA and PSU, not counting any other offers that come later on

Go for it

Taylor is back on the menu

Here they come
Here comes the bastards
I heard it from a confidant
Who heard it from a confidant
They're definitely on their way

Giggity

TKPhi Damn Proud
BSME 2009

Who? Could we use full names or a link when talking about recruits.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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I assume Carmelo Taylor, WR from Roanoke, 4*, would be a big get.

Yea Carmelo taylor. My bad πŸ˜‚

Here they come
Here comes the bastards
I heard it from a confidant
Who heard it from a confidant
They're definitely on their way

I feel the need...

For speed...

Thanks.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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That would be huge. What's status with Keys, Bass and Billups?

There's no glory in practice and lifting but without practice and lifting, there will be no glory!

Billups is interesting. Everyone thought he be committed to unc by now but he's keeping a ear open. Bass is a pitt lean rn. Keys tbh haven't heard much about lately

Here they come
Here comes the bastards
I heard it from a confidant
Who heard it from a confidant
They're definitely on their way

Trouble in paradise with USCe?

Vroom Vroom

Surprised no one is talking about Chris Parson's

Here they come
Here comes the bastards
I heard it from a confidant
Who heard it from a confidant
They're definitely on their way

I some saw less-than-reliable smoke around him right after he decommitted from FSU. If we want a 2 QB class then that would be a solid pair between he and Wittke. I've since seen more reliable smoke that he we are interested/in it to some degree. I'm just in a holding pattern because I'm not too sure what the staff has envisioned for this class, but I am excited about the direction of recruiting, and particularly about the cookout which seems to have been a major hit.

There is a cb in for Elijah Hughes.

Probably gonna be a DT here

Here they come
Here comes the bastards
I heard it from a confidant
Who heard it from a confidant
They're definitely on their way

Wow this would be a huge get. Thought for sure he was going to Stanford

This would be a huge huge huge win for JC Price

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay

JC gotta earn that pay and get this guy. We need DT cruits