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Yes.
His message is polarizing and at times repeated ad-nauseam but I never found anything that he posted to be completely out-of-bounds from a content standpoint. I did not see the "fungus" comment so I can't really comment on it.
Honestly, I think most of his disdain is from the fact that he doesn't have a rosy outlook towards VT Football. He was one of the first to turn on Fuente and he has been direct (but largely correct) about the overall direction of the Program.
I get that he is repetitive and digs in his heels, but there are plenty of people here who make a habit of nit-picking comments to death while ignoring the overall message---I find that just as annoying at times. And I do this: Ignore them--others can do the same to DC.
One of the reasons I choose this Board over others is that it has not traditionally been the "happy-go-lucky, lets just regurgitate the message from the PR department" Board that others are.
This is my thinking. It throws the already-fraught dynamics of coaching tenure and accountability out of whack. It's already hard enough to move on when a coach isn't working out (and let's be honest, most coaches don't work out). No need to add the emotional weight of the Beamer name in there.
Most concerning to me is the amount of elite talent that went there and ended up undrafted. Especially on the offensive side of the ball. Talent carried him while he was there but there was a clear lack of development among many highly talented players, who ended up transferring out to lower programs.
I'm really curious to learn more about this.
Hell yes
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8 months 3 weeks
# | Bitter: Expect no further updates on coaching search - NDAs have been signed His daughter moved on a while back.
I have to agree with VTMikeO - this is Joe's site. He decides.
I didnt have any issues with him. He was over the top some. We all are every once in a while - him more often.
This community can provide opinions here, but it's not really up to us... alone.
Yes, feel he should be let back in. He can be obnoxious. But so can we all.
As mas scott commented above, the just ad nauseam repeating of the same points over and over and over again was my biggest gripe.
I agree with this point. I visited less the more he posted.
Considered dropping my TKP membership because of him.
There were times it seemed like he was just an AI chatbot that was programmed to disagree with whatever point was being made.
It's just one opinion, but even if you agree with his criticism about our program, the way people say things and bring them up matters, and I'd rather not have that style of negativity here.
Rooting for a meteor strike
DC apparently violated guidelines. We all have opinions that, not properly understood, others would find either as offensive or as simply looking for conflict. The difference in DC (and a few others) and the majority of TKP is that most know (most of the time) how to keep such to ourselves or communicate it clearly enough to not offend. DC is an open book which I can appreciate and which certainly adds "flavor" to the community. I have never had any direct issue with DC, however I also don't TKP hard enough to typically get deep into any subject.
Not going to cast a vote except to say that I trust Joe and the mods judgement on this matter, especially the mods as I am sure DC added a significant amount to their mod workloads 😂😂
Was reading an article today from Dan Wetzel on ESPN and he cited this:
The NFL's average margin of victory this season: 10.8 points.
The average margin of victory in Southeastern Conference games this season? Try 10.03.
First things first - this is Joe's site and I trust his judgement. It's my favorite internet community.
As for dcwilson40, I'll repeat my stance from a month ago:
He was polarizing, but also condescending and continually moved the goalposts if his initial argument was proven wrong.
I had several interactions with him like this. We all come here to talk VT football and to have fun. It's not fun when one guy is consistently being an ass and talking to you like you're a child.
I would welcome him back if he learns to interact with other adults like peers and not subordinates.
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8 months 3 weeks
# | Bitter: Expect no further updates on coaching search - NDAs have been signed On top of all of the other reasons to not hire Shane, if we were to go that route, the administration also needs to be prepared to fire Shane if things go wrong, and the negative publicity that would go along with firing the son of your legendary former coach - whether valid or not
I think the "journey to relevancy" NEEDS to be shorter than that, as I think that is when the top teams may be splitting off of the ACC to chase their P2 dreams (if possible). I think the level that you defined in your first paragraph is the state of relevancy that is needed, and I agree that Franklin is a good bet to get us to that point.
That mindset works everywhere. Cignetti, Elko, Freeman, all your best coaches now have shown the ability to maximize what they have and win big even where the resources aren't great.
You want a prime example of the opposite? Brent Pry. Fielded a mix of defenses with elite talent, most good or very good, one or two elite, some not good. Was not asked to maximize his talent, and when he had little of it he failed miserably.
We are a power job, but if we want to make the playoff and win playoff games we have to punch above our weight. Even if we start spending way more (we were already spending a lot and losing to teams with far less resources, who have figured out to do more with less).
Lastly to your original point, Fuente sort of fit this, but he also kind of didn't. His early teams were good because Odom's defenses. By his final year at Memphis when Odom had left and the defense regressed, Memphis had been recruiting near the top of the conference. I regard Fuente as a good offensive coach not a great one. Odom did more with less at Memphis, Fuente it's really debatable.
We really haven't had someone fit the mold of a more with less coach since Beamer. You know. Our most successful coach of all time
Until we sign a top 15 recruiting class that is the world we live in
would like to see him back here. would like to hear his thoughts about the current state of the program and the coaching search.
i actually agreed with a lot of what he said. i would personally have stated it differently...and arguing on message boards is not my type of thing...but i don't think he deserved to be banned as some others (trolls) have in the past.
Yes, please allow the Prodigal Son to return.
Well, the World Series participants have been set, with the Blue Jays facing off against the current World Champion Dodgers. And if you're wondering which team to root for, let me break it down for you.
Sources: Dodgers' Roster, Blue Jays' Roster
Country of Origin
Dodgers: 19 USA, 3 Japan, 1 each South Korea, Venezuela, Dominican Republic, Cuba
Blue Jays: 21 USA, 1 each Dominican Republic, Cuba, Mexico, Venezuela, Canada
As you can see, the Blue Jays are the more American team, and should be the rooting interest for all Americans.
I support him being here. We didnt see eye to eye on much but he was a voice that was needed in some conversations.
Could he tone down the adversarial rabbit holes? Sure.
Do I remember the Ballein comment? No
Do I think vile thoughts about Ballein on my own? Absolutely...should have been shown the door as soon as Frank left.
Only advice I would give him is to take less personal shots in responses and stick to Hokiecentric information and respect that others don't see things the same way.
My question is how many of those former coordinators have moved on to lateral positions or bigger and better things. Is his tree growing or just pruning?
Don't know him personally, but his online persona made the forums a pretty toxic place to lurk. His posts made me visit less, read less, and interact even less than I would have otherwise. You can tell he cares about the university and the program but I hope he's not back here beating the same dead horses over and over again anytime soon
No. He made this place worse with his toxicity and it outweighed the positives.
edited for grammar. It was bothering me
I did a quick Google AI search for Coordinators at PSU during Franklin's tenure (below). As you can see with the exception of Pry on defense it has been a constant revolving door of coordinators. This has to make development of talent harder to accomplish considering the different focuses and schemes different coordinators bring to the table. Maybe that plays a part in the under achieving player development? And maybe it doesn't as other programs probably have this same issue. I did not do a deep dive into this.
Offensive Coordinators under Franklin at PSU
2014–2015 John Donovan
2016–2017 Joe Moorhead
2018–2019 Ricky Rahne
2020 Kirk Ciarrocca
2021–2023 Mike Yurcich
2024–present Andy Kotelnicki
Defensive Coordinators under Franklin at PSU
Bob Shoop 2014–2015
Brent Pry 2016–2021
Manny Diaz 2022–2023
Tom Allen 2024
Jim Knowles 2025–present
off the top of my head, Morehead, Rahne, Pry and Diaz all went on to head coaching gigs. Their success or not doesn't tell us a lot since it is a very different job than being a coordinator, but they didn't leave just to take the same job elsewhere.