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Or- because we will have a GM equivalent, is he a better choice because he's a football coach first?
That's not enough on it's own IMO. CFB 'GMs' won't handle everything related to recruiting - at least not in 2026... maybe in 5, 10, 15 years, etc, but no org is that mature yet, and I don't think High school coaches/pipelines are ready for that either.
Now if you want to hire Chesney as HC, Luke Fickle at DC, and say Blake Anderson at OC, and pair that with a GM... well you have my attention
Needs to be like:
20mil to student athletes
15mil to football
5 mbb
5 wbb
the rest two should go to soccer or a bat sport to try for title.
Definitely good to see VT decide they want to play in the big leagues. It does make me wonder why we haven't hit that magic $30m "Philanthropy" button earlier, though.
I am going to guess that our benchmark here is to at least match everything that Clemson or FSU is doing in football. Would suspect our operating model in regards to budgets for coaching, facilities, and NIL is going to mirror what they do.
I share your sentiments in that I would be "whelmed" by this hire. I certainly think he could do well, but does he have the skill set to transform our football operations environment to be top of the ACC given the right resources?
Or- because we will have a GM equivalent, is he a better choice because he's a football coach first?
If I had to choose today, I still choose Helton.
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# | VT BoV Approves increase of athletics budget by $47.1m this year, growing to a total budget of $212m in 2029 suspect it includes revenue sharing but not outside NIL. we will need the latter to compete with the top tier in the conference...and obviously, nationally.
Rode my motorcycle out to Nags Head the previous Sunday, 14 Sep. about halfway across the Wright Bridge a cross breeze sprang up. Enough to easily push the bike around, at around 3:30 pm..
Got stronger and by 5pm we had gale force winds and serious rain started Sunday night. Gale winds stayed until Tuesday and enough rain to flood Rt 12 in spots.
First decent weather was Thursday.
I'm glad the fishing tournament was schedule for the next weekend.
fantastic info, as always, bar1990!
also, nice little dig at SI lol
When I was young, most fishermen didn't filet many fish in our mostly freshwater fishing. The spot and croaker and roundhead we caught, we gutted, scaled and cut off the heads and fried them whole. I remember when I worked at the pickle plant in Norfolk (we made Fannings bread and butter pickles and I'll never eat another one nor can I stand the smell of a fresh cut cucumber, but I do digress) and a popular lunch item there when the spot were running was a whole fried spot between two pieces of white bread. Yep, no lie. It was a cultural phenomenon, and one I had no intention of trying.
Nowadays, at least in the last 50+ years, I filet everything I'm not smoking. If the filet is going to be bigger than a potato chip, I'm fileting it or throwing it back. Of course, I'm still gonna fry the fish, but bones aren't welcome here at the fish house. Now bigger fish with bigger filets do offer much more option in the baking and broiling realm, but for small panfish you don't want to filet, either leave the bones and eat the fins and tail like we used to after rolling in cornmeal and frying in bacon grease or Crisco, or use some common sense crispy recipe. Spot and croaker, like perch and sunfish, are delicious table fare however you choose to partake. Then...there's walleye.
So this money can't be used to pay players? Or do I have that wrong. Just wondering how we address the talent issue.
Outstanding. Let's grab us a football GM, and then we can quit Mullen this over and hop on the Dan Van!
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I have been getting reports of small trout biting, a plus for sure, and the very occasional "good" day of 4 or 5 trout with a decent one in the mix. Drum continue to be large, but largely not around, with a 1 drum in the mid-slot day being about all you can even hope for.
Go to the chiropracter, Mr. French, and get back at 'em.
Two points: VT is now a player for a lot more coaching options, the new GM position, etc. Just like that.
Whit may have played this just right and given himself some more time. (Not endorsing, just saying.... crafty, if so.)
P.S. I still think/hope contained in this is a significant restructuring of the Dept.
P.P.S. I hope to goodness, the new GM etc fixes our uniform contract, and goes hell-bent on marketing to our eventual next conference. By comparison (2024 numbers) this would put us at top 10 SEC, top 5 Big 10 funding) Its a big deal.
Updated for the Wake Forest game
My second question in this is how much of the increase is dedicated to football? What do the football only budgets look like at the other top schools and will ours be on par there?
In answering a bit of my own question, just read an ESPN article that says this:
As for football funding, its current $41 million budget trails behind Clemson ($67.8 million), Florida State ($61.1 million) and North Carolina ($48 million) among public ACC schools. Though the materials released Monday do not include how much more football will get as part of the overall budget increase, Babcock said during the board meeting last month that football will need at least an additional $13.5 million.
Hopefully it's more dedicated to football than the $13.5M Babcock was asking for here.
Well shit. That'll get us Chelsea and her little cat too.
Better than just being an entrance *shrug*
This is the other reason we should have them, yes
I guess my only question is if in July our current budget was $122M and now claiming it's $158M for 2025, where did the $36M shake out of the cushions?
Some might bump up, but I think at least half won't.
UVa, Pitt, BC, Cal, Stanford, Wake, GT, Syracuse, and Duke likely don't want to football hard enough. Not sure about NC State and Carolina is stuck in Belichick hell.
FSU, SMU, and Clemson will stay near the top in funding (although Clemson may be hobbled by Dabo's buyout). We just want to be breathing the same air they are. Miami will want to play ball, but unclear if their smaller alumni base is up for it. I imagine Louisville plays keep up with us.
That pretty much leaves us in the top 4-6.
As an aside, I was listening to an FSU game on the radio while driving a couple weeks ago. They have corporate sponsors for first down and the red zone. Whenever the announcers say those terms, they mention the sponsors.
Enter Sandman in Cassell would be awesome with the lights out.
This is exactly why I've found it so discouraging that we haven't gone forward with the project. It's malpractice to not install them. It's a microcosm of the mismanagement happening in the athletic department. If they can't even do the slam dunk projects, how could they possibly handle the complex and challenging ones?
I would argue Edmunds day was more instrumental in terms of changing the result of the game. Minnesota won 48-10. Rodgers had a great stat line, first to ever do it in a game but it was more icing on the cake in a blowout. Bungles were terrible. They didn't even manage 200 yards of offense.
Edmunds took two scoring opportunities away in the 4th quarter, one in the end zone and the other in FG range while the Bears offense went off the rails and didn't score in the 4th.

In terms of revenue sharing they are capped at $20.5M and have previously stated intent would be 75% Football, 15% MBB, 5% WBB, and 5% other sports. Whether they hold firm to those I doubt we will ever know the truth.