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Agree. I think we have missed on Dex too at this point. Seems like he's well in the mix for the PSU job as things stand.

The most crazy rumor (conjecture!) I've seen is we are looking at hiring both Walton and Guerrieri as a co-DC situation since we supposedly have some cash. Other than the splash value of announcing you just hired a chunk of OSU's staff at one time, not sure I'm onboard with that. Putting two eh options together to plug a DC hole doesn't make it great IMO. But who knows, I'm just waiting on something, anything at this point.

It's mental to me that anyone is still conjuring up optimistic scenarios this late into the game lol.

I'll be the first to eat my shorts if I'm wrong - I've been all over this thread predicting doom - but I really think we've swung and missed on multiple prospects and are about to overpay, again, for an under-qualified bush league coordinator.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect or pre-empt that based on Merryman's utter mismanagement over the last decade. I don't think people are mad enough about it.

From all the rumblings online, it sounds like Pry asked for authorization to up the salary at least twice over the last month and it was granted. Just reading the tea leaves, I think we went after Banks as our top target as a total moonshot. Unfortunately we got outbid at the end of the day, and Wednesday this past week was the decision point for Banks IMO based on Mehul's comments early this past week. It just didn't go in our favor.

Have also seen that Banks is likely eyeing a HC position in a few years so he may not have been here very long had we landed him. But still would have taken him in a heartbeat.

My worry is now we are going after under qualified candidates and will end up overpaying because we have some cash. You would think we could poach a standing P4 DC with the type of money we supposedly have available. But the names we are hearing now give me a little bit of uneasiness. Hopefully we are all pleasantly surprised but this is dragging out way longer than anyone had hoped.

Question for everyone - we seem to have given up on Tim Banks because he just signed a contract. I want to say someone else in vaguely recent history had just signed a contract before going somewhere else, maybe Jimbo Fisher? Anyway, any chance the contract may have been a negotiating tactic for a higher salary and we could still get him?

I know a lot of people think it's bad optics that there hasn't been an announcement made yet, but maybe the selection has been made and there's some obscure reason we haven't announced, or as I said before, they're making all the position coach hiring decisions first before announcing. Like maybe it IS Banks and he is trying to find the best position coaches possible, between what he's got now, what we've got, and maybe even someone from another school he would prefer to have over either what he's got or what we've got.

I mean, it's feeling more and more like whatever happens at this point there are so many possibilities we're not likely to guess. I know guessing is half the fun, but we're just spinning ourselves into a lot of anxiety based on what happened under Fuente. He was willing to die on the hill with his selections, and I'm not convinced that the JHam hire was anything more than because he was Foster's recommendation. How ca. we think Whit wouldn't have paid more than what we'd pay a first time coordinator. Pry isn't Fuente - we've already seen that because he was willing to let a friend of his go.

I also don't think we can judge how much Whit is willing to pay for a coordinator. If we assume Pry hired Marve and Bowen because of relationships and what he thought they were capable of, he saw Marve wasn't cutting it. He actually let go the weak areas on staff. Since he's not willing to go down with his friends, I think we have to say he knows his job is on the line. He"s going to want to get the best possible candidates. Even if it wasn't about saving his job, he probably wants to win games. Winning lots of games is good for his career and salary.

All that to say, and maybe it's just because I'm an optimist, but I have a feeling we're not going to be as disappointed as some of us think. I guess there isn't much else to speculate about since it's the offseason though. One way or another, hopefully we don't have to wait past Tuesday...

I hope the "these poor athletes" crowd is happy, too. Well maybe not. Pretty sure everyone else is mostly unhappy. Other than watching VT, being an alumnus, is all I watch anymore. Have no interest in the rest of college sports anymore. All professional players. Probably stupid thinking, because I know the VT 'athletes' are just paid players too and most don't give a shit about the school, just how big is their bag of $$$$$.

Quit watching the professional leagues years ago when they got politicalized.

Sad state of affairs.

This particular Attorney, Heitner is an example of where CFB is heading.

He plays both sides of the coin...he represents athletes as an "NIL Attorney" but also (at least in the past) was involved in the NIL Collective @ UF. He also is faculty at Miami's Law School so he's teaching the next generation how to follow in his footprint.

So in this case, presumptively some portion the Attorney fees he collects in suing Wisconsin will be used to help fund Florida (and possibly Miami) Programs. Seems tremendously logical.

This is what the College Football is now...a shitshow run amok with an NIL system that clearly is not economically viable in the long -term--being exploited mostly by people who have no role with the actual product on the field.

The winners here are going to be lawyers and television executives. Not the athletes. And certainly not the fans.

Hope all the "these poor athletes," crowd is happy about where we are.

I could try to guess on some of the freshman that'll see the field. I thought about adding in players that exhausted eligibility and were significant contributors, but a lot of them don't even have an on3 grade and I wanted to compare like to like.

The NCAA spent decades trying to enforce the rules that the member schools asked it to enforce

Herein lies the issue: The NCAA is nothing more than its member institutions. But the member institutions don't want to give power to anyone other than themselves.

If schools actually wanted centralized authority, they would've given the NCAA the authority to sell broadcast rights, distribute revenue, enforce rules, etc.

But the schools didn't want to do that. They wanted to have their cake and eat it too.

The reality is that the NCAA is a strawman at this point. It basically doesn't exist anymore.

At this point? It's always been this way. The only difference is that the public used to believe in the ncaa's mission. That is no longer the case. Without the bully pulpit, the NCAA has no authority. That's what has changed. The ncaa has always been a straw man. The difference is now everyone knows it's a scarecrow, not an actual monster.

This is awesome! Thanks for doing all this! Any chance of including one or two of the top rated incoming freshmen that may be likely to see the field next year? I'm thinking we might see a true freshman LB for instance.

I'd also be curious about a similar comparison for players who exhausted eligibility and transfers out compared to incoming freshmen and transfers in.

Contrarian opinion here, but I feel like criticizing the NCAA is like yelling at the sky because it's raining. On an instinctual level it might make sense and feel right, but it's pointless and misguided.

The NCAA spent decades trying to enforce the rules that the member schools asked it to enforce, and it was shit on again and again for doing literally what it was created to do. Then federal- and state-level courts started ruling that they CAN'T legally enforce those rules. Now the NCAA is simultaneously criticized for being an overbearing tyrant that suffocates college sports with stupid rules, and also a feckless organization that promotes a wild west culture.

The reality is that the NCAA is a strawman at this point. It basically doesn't exist anymore.

Noticed that this paid player (student-athlete is a joke) has an attorney. Begs the question, how much of this NIL money is being sucked up by the attorneys and supposed agents?

Just curious if anybody knows. Haven't really heard this mentioned anywhere.

Thank you for this, you've done tremendous work here.

This is a huge ask, but I'd love to see someone put together a best-guess two-deep for next season, based on the transfers in and out. I think it would be really interesting to see how many starters/contributors are made up of portal pickups. I'm guessing it's got to be 8-10 new starters.

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