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and yet we've seen apparently good transfers come in on the defensive side of the ball, to the point that the transfers in were being used as evidence that we had a DC hire in place, just not announced yet
I was great with Moore and still am with him as a coach. My commentary was its disappointing to know that Whits answer to shaking up the staff and "hard conversations" after a totally shit/disjointing season was to offer Moore lateral money. You stated in this post that money is a factor. Lateral money typically gets lateral results. We shall see.
Bud M'fcking Foster!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't disagree, but at times you act as if we have the money to go get whomever we want. And if we don't go hire Joe Rudolph back, who obviously only took the job to get out of Wisconsin, then we are garbage.
We aren't getting the top OL Coach in the country. I'm not sure what is wrong with Moore. For all accounts he seems like a step up from Crook. And some decent lineman have followed him here, so why all the anger over him?
^^^ This right here. All that I'm getting at in other comments I've made, is that I'm concerned about the quality of the hire - not the time it's taking to get a hire necessarily - but that delay certainly serves as reason for pause.
I fundamentally do not trust Whit Babcock anywhere within 50 miles of a coordinator hire - or any football hire at this point. That's what it's about. My working assumption all along is that Merryman would somehow find a way to fuck up what is a critically important hire.
The delay in that hire, is simply smoke that is beginning to look like it might indicate the fire I already feared was burning.
It's not about how long it's taking. It's that I didn't trust that we'd nail a good hire to begin with, and the delay is only making that hunch look worse.
I would celebrate a Dex announcement. He was the most logical/realistic and high ceiling candidate early on that I started to get onboard with, especially since Pry tried to hire him previously. I think it's just been a whirlwind since there was silence for so long, TSL and others started reporting it was not Dex a week or two ago which led to speculation we were after a big current DC, the Banks connections were made and looks like he's off the table today, so now we're circling back to Dex. It's just been a roller coaster.
It's going to be announced this week. Save your anger for then.
Not gonna lie, I saw the headline and my mind read "Michael Vick selected for.....Defensive Coordinator", lol.
Really need this to be over with!
Absolutely deserves it.
Congratulations.
You aren't wrong but its more history than inferiority complex IMO. When Foster retired, we hired JHam. Whit is not exactly playing with house money here.
Are we at the point where we're gonna widely pan a Dex announcement because it's a week later than we thought it would be?
Slight tangent, but based on the discourse here, I get the sense that a lot of people would be happy with a Dex hire. He feels like an upgrade from Marve, at the very least from a recruiting standpoint. But the biggest red flag with Marve and Bowen both was that they were first-time coordinators hired by a first-time HC. More than anything, I think the next DC needs to have substantial experience running a defense. Dex is light in that department, only having been DC at UConn for a few seasons before the entire staff got swept out the door there. Dex could be a great hire, but bringing him on board could be repeating the same critical mistake twice in a row.
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Fair enough, I get worrying it might be a shit hire, what I don't get is assuming it will be before we know anything. I know Hokie fans have an inferiority complex, but don't get mad about something that hasn't happened yet. Wait until it happens and then get mad.
Pry's middle name is Schrodinger, and we won't know if his DC hire is good or bad until the white smoke comes out of an air vent on top of Merryman and the doors are opened so that we can see the DC hire.
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"Now I feel like now no matter who we get they won't be good enough for some people simply because it wasn't announced quickly enough"... People don't give and won't give 2 shits about how slow it was if we announce Glenn Schumann or Al Golden in fucking June. People are concerned because it is taking too long to hire an unremarkable replacement- THAT is what people are concerned about. If we wait until August and announce its Steve Spagnuolo- everyone will be happier than pigs in shit.
"where success scales with chronologically-quicker decision-making"- Not quicker- better... and it's usually better to have your DC in place as soon as possible in the cut throat 365 24/7 world of free transfers, money, HS recruiting, etc. Slow decision making is counter to modern college football.
With the new PGA season, TGL kicking off, and the calendar flipping over, prob time to open a new thread...
I'll start one.
I think the worst grows more likely
Except that's not how life works. It's not some linear ride where success scales with chronologically-quicker decision-making
Are we at the point where we're gonna widely pan a Dex announcement because it's a week later than we thought it would be? Are we gonna be upset if the guy was always some NFL assistant who is still coaching in the playoffs, just because Tim Banks got an extension in Knoxville?
Yeah the coaching world is connected and nothing is happening in a vacuum. No everyone on a message board putting together a short list of "Dex, Tim Banks, and Shoop" is not some in-the-know about the daily workings of the search and you can scratch the names off one by one and start panicking.
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# | With all this defensive coordinator hand-wringing... why NO Culture Coach checks❓ It's ok. Quite a few tkpers have become fluent in bourbonstreet for us.
...I wonder if they offer it on Duolingo 🤔
moved to 2025 thread
Yeah, the number of people who have 100% made their minds up that the DC hire has been completely bungled is a little weird to me. Like, have you never hired someone for a job before? Sometimes it takes time to work all the details out. Now I feel like now no matter who we get they won't be good enough for some people simply because it wasn't announced quickly enough.
I don't understand why people want to live their lives like that.
"DC hire in place, just not announced yet"- lets say this is true... what is the logic?