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"Maybe you don't realize who we actually are."- no I do perfectly and that's what people take issue with on here. We are treading water... would you disagree?
"Again, you're using "salary command" - yep, VT can't afford this and that remember? We are poor thus the reason why we are 6-6... salary command matters in those conversations I guess? "Moore has had bona fide, tangible success, both on the recruiting trail and in development into NFL talent." - he was not retained at WVU and was available for a discount....
NC State has not shot the ball well as a team all season, but their calling card is pressing defense with constant pressure. Ball handling, as always for this team, will be the key to victory tonight. Hammond will need to play under control along with the rest of the backcourt to win this one tonight.
Again, you're using "salary command" as compared to his predecessor as predictor of success when Moore has had bona fide, tangible success, both on the recruiting trail and in development into NFL talent. And has already half-transformed VT's O-line.
And apologies you're also suggesting Rich Rod's assessment is predictive of future success, which I must agree, is the best metric of future success there is. I apologize. We should now, for all future predictions of success, determine whether Rich Rod approves. He is clearly the best coach at determining how to succeed in today's college football and his decisions should be spread as gospel. (Give me a joke!)
Maybe you don't realize who we actually are.
What big time OL coach were we going to go out and outbid everyone for? We aren't a blue-blood. Moore has a buy-out paying him for being let go and after that year his salary at Tech automatically goes up. If we over paid for him would you be happy?
From what I've seen WVUs OL was pretty good. Their worst year under Moore was equal to our best year in past few.
It sounds like you want coaching hire results that aren't just realistic.
Right- we've come full circle, we are actually going to be upset if its Dex now! lol. The longer this goes, the more its looking like shuffling deck chairs- Quinn is DC or Co DC, etc.
Maybe we tricked Tennessee into overpaying him so that we can bridge the gap between us and a regional SEC team and our guy was always going to be an NFL coach.
I'm straight up not having a good time.
yup, this is five alarm fire time
Tim Banks is being extended at Tennessee.
Really looking more and more like we swung and missed
He wasn't VT's DC- correct... He was the heir apparent and FU's guy.... the point of the post being Fuente being a shit coach and putting no stock into Barry Odom based on that. Sorry you got hung up on semantics.
Like Rich Rod- total shitbag, but from time to time can call ball plays to get first downs.
and his DC was a scum bag that was fired in disgrace.
You said Fuent's DC was a scumbag and fired in disgrace. I may know exactly who you're talking about, my point is he wasn't the DC.
It is very confusing as to what he was. I never remembered him being Co-DC. See below for discrepancies in his bio.
Under his name, it says: Assistant Head Coach/Co-Defensive Coordinator/Safeties
At the bottom under his coaching experience, it listed him as Co-DC at Memphis, but for Tech it says: Assistant Head Coach/Safeties
Yet, somehow, Bobby Petrino is back at Arkansas, as their Offensive Coordinator, after having been fired as their head coach in 2012. He's now a different person, after all.
FFS- Galen Scott- fucking water boy- whatever the fuck you want to call him- Was Fuente's guy to be DC when Foster was gone. In fact Scott was GOING TO BE THE DC if Foster couldn't be talked into it. FFS. Call him assistant fucking analyst for all I care- you know who I am fucking talking about.
When was he Co-DC? Foster was 100% the DC. Maybe he was the intended future DC, but I'm pretty sure he was just a position coach. You said the DC (didn't say Co) was fired. I wasn't arguing the guy wasn't a scumbag, I was arguing that he wasn't the DC.
You are putting words in my mouth and missing all of the very important context of my comments regarding the program and Pry. If you want to argue we aren't simply treading water by every metric - let's have an adult conversation about it. I'd love to hear you refute that. My comments on the OL coach were based on facts of course. Crook was shit and was fired- so we are going to upgrade big time, right? because we want to stop treading water. So we low ball the new guy- that is a fact. If to give your side of the argument the benefit of doubt beyond that fact - 1. Rich Rod would have kept him and given him a raise, or 2. He would have commanded a much higher salary than Crook on the open market. So outside of those facts, what Pry did was simply hire WVU's OL coach and hope the line will be better. He - fact- did not go out and get a big time, in demand, highly paid OL coach. Which is fucking fine- but let's not pretend we are fishing in the big pond and making huge improvements in staff here. We are treading water. That is my whole point. We are doing the same thing- paying the same salary for an OL coach- and expecting different results. Now saying Moore is grossly underpaid, he really is Alex Gibbs, and Crook was stealing money is conjecture, nothing more. Whit went on the cheap. It is what it is. Expect the same results.
This pretty different.... Suggesting it is no different is ludicrous. PFF grades are an assessment of performance. Non-commitable offer lists are a facade.
you're currently putting zero stock in anything Pry or VT football in general. which seems mostly reactionary based on the underachieving 2024 season. Some of it is fair, some of it is silly. The most ridiculous is suggesting that an O-line coach with a proven record will be bad because he is not getting the same salary as the prior overpaid O-line coach. Some things are not good predictors of future success, and I would bet my mortgage that actual bona fide prior success is more predictive of future success than a salary comparison with a predecessor.
PFF grade is a good assessment for player ability. A high score indicates that a player repeatedly made the right play with success. Sure, it's against lower talent, but you have to have good mechanics and sound football IQ to get a good PFF grade.
It would be interesting to see how lower level PFF translates to the P4 level. Hopefully someone with access to such data can do a more robust assessment of how predictive lower level PFF is at the higher level. But to put zero stock in PFF grade is ignoring actual prior success.
That and "resigned in disgrace" vs. fired are both semantics. He was brought from Memphis to VTand was co-DC and the stated heir apparent to Bud. He was Fuente's guy and he slept with someone and was let go. Anything else is semantics.
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# | With all this defensive coordinator hand-wringing... why NO Culture Coach checks❓ I think it's one of those "all things being equal, a great culture can help with recruitment/retention," but that doesn't account for monied programs being able to drop bags of cash on guys. In other words, the culture could be fine, but the money talks.
J Reddish and Priester did get added to on3 this week, so they should get a grade soon and likely drop our on3 ranking a bit. I've been waiting for them to come in to build out some tables comparing the ins-and-outs at each position.
I think we're getting hung up on these 2 pickups. Reddish is going to be a ST player and we're probably hoping to use him and Q to get Nick Reddish. Priester might never see the field, but our roster is devoid of dudes his size, so the staff took a shot. I'm guessing they allotted X amount of the new scholarships to players that they knew we wouldn't get a ROI this season. 105 guys aren't seeing the field this year or ever.
I think DC makes a good point that this roster might not be elevating the total talent much, if at all, but the Wingate and DII guy aren't really the issue. To me, there is an obvious reason for adding both of them. The issue is LB still looks like a liability and we're trading 3 stars for 3 stars. Also, elevating talent will help us overcome the coaching and game management mistakes, but if you kept our roster the same talent-wise and fixed the coaching errors in 2024 we win 8 or 9 games at minimum and probably don't have as much attrition heading into 2025.
TLDR: The rankings should always be taken with a grain of salt, it's hard to say that these coaches haven't improved our roster since getting here(but you could argue they haven't done it fast enough), IMO we could use more talent but the coaching is what is currently holding us back.
I didn't think Scott was ever DC.
2 wins away from a natty in -random year- last year. So fucking annoying.