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That assumes all else being equal – you think if Coach mines leaves for the head coach job at ODU that everyone follows?

Yeah we'll probably see $100k annual tuitions in our lifetime for public schools (sooner than we think, TBH), and one of the main drivers for it will be to pay fellow students to play football, or to build facilities for those athletes which are off limits to the regular students body. But it's fine, squeeze them regular kids to pay the elites more, gotta love it.

Except now it's going to take a lot more money than just "coach" money to be competitive. We couldn't keep up as it was and now we're gonna have to pony up a player pool of $$$. Where do you think that is going to come from? Our revenue share isn't increasing enough to offset it. You better be ponying up the donations to pay these young athletes. Oh, and you'll also see tuition rates increase and probably a higher "athletic " fee added to each student

We got guys from Alabama and Oklahoma last year, did either even see the field? I'd rather get guys who will contribute next season and I think where they played college football this year is the least important thing about them.

If it's an FCS player with an offer from half the SEC, then it's probably a safe eval

And we should not get our hopes up

Money is important but players follow coaches to at least an equal extent. These guys have been convinced since early teens that they are going to make big NFL $$ and they trust those who they think can get them there.

One of the biggest causes of exodus in the Portal is the position coach leaving or getting fired.

If Mines left VT, I guarantee we would see a big chunk of the WR room leave too.

Look at Bama last year after Saban left...

I tried. I put up another post with the updated list of portal entries.

You're going to see players get paid on a per-game basis (this will limit opt outs for most players). You're going to see players have buy-outs (which will effectively be transfer fees).

SMU, Vandy, Tulane, Indiana - all are historically dead end programs that have capitalized on the new world of College Football. There's a lot of room for upward mobility in the sport. Arguably more than ever before.

VT just doesn't have a way to capitalize on it right now.

"If the primary decision factor for players is money"- 100%.... and in college football that means these insane endowments and booster money...which happens to coincide with the schools that have the most players drafted- bama and ohio state... so that also checks their second choice for going to a school... getting to the NFL. It's a club and VT aint part of it.

I would focus on the players' offer list out of the portal, not where they are coming from. If it's an FCS player with an offer from Duke and Rice and us, it's probably not great. If it's an FCS player with an offer from half the SEC, then it's probably a safe eval.

The Unlimited Transfer Portal has enhanced the value of individual coaches incredibly.

What makes you say this? If the primary decision factor for players is money, wouldn't it make sense to go where there is the most money?

I remember when our punter got hurt in the early 2000's. Beamer was asked why he was using Ben Taylor to punt, Beamer said- well he's been in a game before. As in- on the field - in any capacity. So yeah, there is value in having a kid that has actually played in a D1 game before vs. a true frosh or hoping a HS kid pans out- sure on the surface.. but are we just throwing spagehtti on the wall chasing Abeline Christian players? just because they have played in a game?

Doesn't matter. We didn't win the ACC... so instead of fishing in a bigger portal pond than NC AT, we are offering Utah Tech guys- hoping to strike gold again. As opposed to raising the talent level. I assume there is a reason this fine young man was playing at Utah Tech?

You could argue that a proven lower level player has higher upside than a "failed" higher level player. We have had success and failure with both versions. South Carolina just paid a sophomore DB >$1M to stay.... we aren't poaching starters from P2 teams.

who will be moving down to G5 or FCS programs

On the flip side of this, all our portal offers so far seem to be dudes in G5 and FCS programs. I know we struck gold with Tuten, but it is concerning to me that we don't seem to be courting many p4 players.

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