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Its a good opportunity for someone to open a 'The Portal Taketh Away: Outgoing Players' thread

Just ask the Army 82nd and 101st airborne, army and navy special forces. Air Force uses ejection seats.

Fucking Utah Tech, Abeline Christian... come the fuck on... We are offering basically anyone in the portal now. More of the same 6-6 nonsense or worse. Beers and Rails are on me if our coaches have ever fucking seen a Utah tech game/film.

My guy. The football program had some amount of money. There were limited places to dump that money legally before. Coaches were an obvious place to put it, because they had some level of direct impact on winning the games. Now it is possible to pay players, some of whom have a more direct impact on winning the games. So there will be shifting of resources. No one is talking about removing the ability to pay coaches. You can see the difference there, right?

contracts that you can't break for minimum of 2-3 years

Contracts are always breakable. And efficient breaking of contracts will always happen.

There is no way a contract that prevents player transfer would be legal unless there is an overarching association that has an agreement with a players union (like professional sports).

Without an Association/Union agreement, a multi-year contract could include one or more of the following to limit transfers:

  • Penalty payment to break contract early
  • Include incentives for being on roster (greater longevity on roster, better pay/benefits)
  • Set payment bonuses to after transfer portal windows (could have low salary, 2 large bonuses, one set for January one set for May)

Of course, if any suitor is rich enough, they can compensate a player for breaking any of those terms, rendering them useless. And with the wealth divide between P2 and everyone else, there is no solution without an association/union agreement. And I don't see how any school in the P2 would want to include themselves in an association that is nonP2.

Exactly. Pennix and XTB were always high ceiling development guys who will be moving down to G5 or FCS programs. XTB has a lot of speed, but Pry always said he wasn't consistent. He was passed by Heath this year as well as possibly Adams. Pennix was a reach who played well on special teams but was passed by true freshman Josh Clarke in a DB room that is pretty crowded. Madison was never good and was never going to see the field.

If that was true we would be winning, not treading water.

DC, you act as if this group of players leaving were contributors who make us more competitive. They weren't. They're not good players. If they were they would've gotten on the field more.

FYI, if we are going to do a bowl pool, there are bowl games this Saturday. They've stretched out the season. A lot.

For those hoping Todd Grantham would be our next DC looks like he just took the DC job at Ok St.

I fully expect that we will see coaching contracts leveling out, especially at non-P2 schools and tier 2 P2 schools, as soon as House goes into effect.

I'm not sure what would possibly make someone think that. The Unlimited Transfer Portal has enhanced the value of individual coaches incredibly. Possibly less so at the non-P2 level, because when enough money comes calling, those players are leaving regardless.

But absolutely ZERO chance P2 coaching salaries don't continue to balloon exponentially. Having a top-level coach who can both recruit and fundraise is going to be paramount...programs will pay out the nose for that.

Here's a conversation:
Admin:"Coach, you've been tremendously successful so we are prepared to offer you a 4 year extension, with a $10k raise per year"
Coach: "Yeah, that's not gonna work for me"
Admin: "but coach, we have to pay players now, so we need to save money somewhere"
Coach: "Great, I'm gonna go coach at Rival U. and take at least 6-8 of this team's best players with me"

And non-P2 salaries may be stagnant because it will be a glorified minor league and a stepping stone level for coaches who want to get the big money in P2.

At the G5 level--whatever % of programs are even still active 10 years from now--is where the real economic impacts will be felt.

But the coaching money isn't going away, it's just going to get shifted to different places. Just like NIL as a whole, not really about the benefit of everyone, just about benefiting a selected few at the detriment of everyone else.

Its perfectly OK to dial back and limit coaches salaries... but the players? no way- they deserve whatever they can get. lol.

Joshua Gholston has entered the portal as a graduate transfer.

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