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"The Portal Giveth" and "The Portal Teaseth"?
(I hope the creator of the outbound thread retitles it "The Portal Taketh.")
Great listen. The three things that were news/stood out to me:
- The NCAA is not the organization enforcing rules around the House agreement, and won't be the NIL clearinghouse organization - pretty crazy to see the NCAA completely sidelined in a matter of college athletics governance.
- The VT athletic dept can fund the entire house settlement for the upcoming year, but will need more money for future years.
- The AD is getting money from 'main campus' - this is very new in VT athletics, as far as I know.
biggest fanbases, not best teams
example: Auburn
ESPN
proudly slobbers all over the SECs unitHawk Tuah
FTFY
Yeah its all going to settle out eventually but its going to take some time. It all leads back to how the NCAA handled it initially, they could have used some logical thought process or anything to put some restrictions or safegaurds in place but instead went full hands off and this is the result.
I'm 50% on the side that this is simply a publicity issue to try and pressure some NFL teams into making a move...i.e. everyone in Jax is apoplectic that Pederson hasn't been fired.
Versus 50% he sees it as a good retirement job and a way to set his son up for the future.
I still think there's little chance that this actually comes to an agreement, but if it does it will be fascinating at the very least.
Some reports have made it clear that as part of his contract his son would be HC in waiting at UNC which wouldn't fly as easily at a lot of NFL front offices.
Need more OL
UVA = Pickleball
I'm sure Army and Navy have competent sky Diving teams.
Something HAS to be done. And I think it will be because the big schools want this too. They don't like re-recruiting their teams every year, they don't like paying underperforming players anymore than Pry does. When the SEC wants something- it gets done. I think rather soon there will be contracts, pay limits, etc. - just like the NFL. yay.
It's a retirement job. UNC will likely pay more than the NFL and he's trying to line his son up as coach in waiting.
That's the only thing that makes sense to me other than this being a PR stunt.
Lost in all this... Bellichick is 15 NFL victories away from breaking Don Shula's record- a record he really wants to break - in other words realistically 2 seasons. Why doesn't he just take an NFL job- the Bears, Jets, Giants, raiders- at minimum will be open. Falcons, Bucs, Jacksonville could be open.
Belichick's bible would require historic levels of investment from the school. Includes salary minimums position by position and a willingness to hire two staffs: a coaching staff run by Belichick; a recruitment staff run by a sitting college GM — who would require a buyout
Belichick has a college and pro version of his updated manual and has shared it with other schools and NFL teams. But he drafted a new one specific to UNC that touched on every aspect of the program and school. Will need sign off from AD, chancellor, trustees and boosters
There has already been pushback from the group of 13 trustees, with input from wider faculty. The investment would overhaul the school's approach to football; Belichick unsure if the school will meet the demands and is unwilling to negotiate
- some dude on reddit
I dunno, could just be a knee jerk reaction based off what the little I've read so far, but... if the school, investors, donors/whoever buys in...is it really that a bad of an idea? It sounds like UNC is about to take football a whole lot more serious, which could be a huge problem for teams like... *checks list* us.
The participants in those shows have done the math and decided that the chance to win $1M is fair compensation for the time they're putting in and a fair cut of the money that NBC is making.
For a long time, CFB players felt things were equitable for them as well. It seems (possibly with some prompting by outside agitators) that they look at the money being made now and at their compensation, and have decided that's not the case any more.
If we had collectively recognized that the money involved in all this means it's not an amateur sport any more, we could have figured out what compensation (and labor management) should look like. My guess is that the vast majority of CFB players are fairly compensated as things stood before all this. That is, room, board, and all the stuff you mentioned. But I don't think you're arguing that those things you listed are fair compensation for Cam Ward. Or put another way, I don't think you're suggesting that Cam Ward delivers the same value to the ecosystem that a 3rd string punter does. That was the implication in the pre-NIL era.
I have to say that I haven't watched a single basketball game this season and have lost almost all interest in doing so. Why? I practically don't know anyone on this roster from last year. NIL has created an almost wholesale change to our roster and this will continue. M&O may be the same colors but the annual rotation of large swaths of our roster has taken away the "connection" to our teams' human identity.
We are about to experience this with Football.
For example, I remember Eddie Royal's first game he played in and when I did, I said, "I can't wait to see what he does in year 2 and 3. Those days are gone on what we are about to lay witness to....significant annual roster exodus.
If there were contracts - and the game checks that go along with those contracts - you wouldn't have to hope that players would play in bowl games simply out of loyalty.
And if the contracts were multi-year contracts, you wouldn't have to worry about 50% of your roster transferring every offseason.
I see where you're going with this, and I agree in principle. The charm of college football is the "college" part. It's why CFB succeeds where the XFL and other attempts have failed. But if you believe that ESPN would pay their current rates for club football, I think you're dreaming.
They pay what they do now BECAUSE Manziel was irreplaceable. His lore added to the intrigue of college football. So did Mike Vick's.
Why is ESPN paying so much more for the SEC? Because that's where the best teams are. And why are they the best teams? Because they have the best players.
First I appreciate the way you are communicating your point. It is how you would talk to someone in person if you really wanted to have a conversation which is lacking on the internet 99% of the time.
We have opposing views on this. I consider the dollar value of the tv contracts a red herring when been used as a benchmark for player compensation. I see college football players in the same vein as the participants on Survivor or American Idol. Those shows draw huge audiences and generate tons of money for the network but the value creation isn't happening at the individual contestant level. The Olympics are another example. Those are amateur athletes competing on the largest stage that generates tons of money for NBC. The players, game show contestants, etc, are all cogs in a wheel from a value creation standpoint.
I'm not unsympathetic towards the rigors of being a college athlete but I'm also not going to treat them as being victimized. Being a D1 college football or basketball player is a unique experience that most people never get to have. They get an education, travel experience, the best coaching in their field, the best strength and nutrition, a platform to showcase their talents, and if I remember correctly from my time at VT...tons of girls.
Yes they would. They pay millions more now than they did when Johnny Manziel was irreplaceable. They pay more now than when Leonard Fornette was too big/good for college football. When Sheduer and Travis Hunter leave this year, you think anyone will air colorado games next season? VT sold out lane this year for not Michael Vick or anyone close. Facts. Would ESPN pay for SEC football? you bet your ass.
Air Force winning Skydiving seems like a gimme.
Belichick has a college and pro version of his updated manual and has shared it with other schools and NFL teams. But he drafted a new one specific to UNC that touched on every aspect of the program and school. Will need sign off from AD, chancellor, trustees and boosters— Ollie Connolly (@OllieConnolly) December 10, 2024
The guys who are staying and starting are the skinniest kids at fat camp.
Hip Hop Dancing - BYU?!?