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Hokie in The Wire's picture Hokie in The Wire
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| 10 years 1 week # | OT: Review finds it "more probable than not" Pats intentionally deflated footballs

Oh, and Tom Brady's destroyed cell phone.

I believe you only need the lowest standard of proof to suspend a player from games.

I think its a low standard, but "probably" isn't proof, not even the lowest of standards. Think of all the things you'd be ok with for being punished for that if someone (who was paid by your prosecutor) told you that you "probably" did.

I think he destroyed his cell phone b/c there would be no way to limit access to potential shady crap (not related to deflating footballs). I think that the investigation was botched up (and if you read the sequence of events, you may agree).

Lastly, I'd refer you to: Ball tampering involving Panthers, Vikings produced a far different reaction

Vtkey's picture Vtkey
| 10 years 1 week # | Alabama OT Cam Robinson Faces Felony Weapons Charge

It's always wrong to punish football players, because after all, in punishing them, aren't you also punishing the students and the football fans? And if you punish the students and football fans, aren't you punishing innocent Americans?

That's just wrong.

Alum07's picture Alum07
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| 10 years 1 week # | OT: Review finds it "more probable than not" Pats intentionally deflated footballs

I mean, the players negotiated and signed a CBA that allows Goodell to do this, which is why the courts ruled the way they did in April, and the appeals courts upheld that decision yesterday. And for the record, every team except for the Steelers voted to agree with the CBA in place.

So, if the players don't like what's happening, tough shit. They had their chance to reject this CBA which explicitly gives the commissioner the power he's wielding, and they overwhelmingly voted to support it. They have NO leg to stand on now.

Next time, read the contract before you sign it

NerdMagic's picture NerdMagic | 10 years 1 week # | Hokie Sports Office staff

She totally forgot about it, found a post-it note 3 years later, and was praying you had forgot.

In all seriousness, a lot of the support staff all over VT is amazing. Shout out to the tour guide's bus driver Richard Bass (who I believe is retired now). They really make VT a special place.

Vtkey's picture Vtkey
| 10 years 1 week # | OT: Review finds it "more probable than not" Pats intentionally deflated footballs

I believe you only need the lowest standard of proof to suspend a player from games.

There are some pretty incriminating text messages between equipment managers. Then there is the contact between Brady and the equipment manager. Oh, and Tom Brady's destroyed cell phone. This is like the "You can't prove it" defense.

Do you have doubts over whether they purposefully deflated balls?

brickhaus's picture brickhaus
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| 10 years 1 week # | OT: Review finds it "more probable than not" Pats intentionally deflated footballs

That's true, but Chris's argument was that underinflation hurts the QB's ability to put the ball where he wants it. As a guy who's never been able to throw a football at any pressure, I can't confirm or refute that argument. My attempt was to show how it still helps the offense, even if the underinflated ball is a bit more difficult for the QB to throw.

As for your question, it seems pretty apparent to me that the balls were tampered with. When every ball in the bag except for one (to be used for kicking) is underinflated, and you have all those very incriminating texts from the equipment guys, it becomes very hard to believe that no shennanigans were afoot.

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