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# | Justin Fuente's Recruiting Prowess Shouldn't Be Judged Solely On His First Class 
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# | Justin Fuente's Recruiting Prowess Shouldn't Be Judged Solely On His First Class Sounds like the same model we used during our 10-win streak under Beamer. The one where we ran through a weak ACC and were left wondering what happened nearly every single time we played truly talented teams. The problem with taking "system fits" (usually a nicer way of calling someone a 2 or 3 star recruit) and developing them is that their ceiling is limited. This model was why we could never get over the hump under Beamer at his peak. I think it all depends on peoples' expectations and goals for the program. There are those that view VT as a program that can eventually play for national championships, and those that are 100% fine with being in the second tier of the ACC.
I should have known it would be a Cajun. See they were right on the water boy after all! But in all seriousness dude is a live wire. I like it.
He quit
What happened to Kevin Norstrem? Injury?
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# | Hokies Jump into 2017, 2018 Recruiting Classes with Hosting Weekend Heavy on Virginia Prospects May be true, but I wonder how many of these happened after the coach decomitted from the program? Often there are legitimate reasons for the players actions.
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# | Justin Fuente's Recruiting Prowess Shouldn't Be Judged Solely On His First Class Thanks Joe. Was thinking about it, I'm just still not sure of the conclusion. Suppose that would be the whole point of a new thread. I guess I just took issue with Paul's tweet / comments, which is what led me to the analytics. When I saw your post; kind of fit in to the theme.
The numbers on NC winners are difficult to argue. However, it implies that the same applies to teams 2-125 in regards to year end results, which I believe ignores other factors, many mentioned within this thread.
I am a firm believer in player development, which is why I kept getting more excited about Fuente leading up to his hiring. If you can work with lesser talent, and help them improve; imagine what happens when you start to get better talent.
We want the shift in the program to be immediate, heck I'd love it to be this season, but gradual suspense will only further the excitement when it is achieved. Maybe that's just what I tell myself, but it seems to be playing out with Buzz right now.
There is something I heard once, a show, movie, who knows, but I'll butcher it in any case. When you made it and live on the top floor, there is nowhere to go but down.
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# | Justin Fuente's Recruiting Prowess Shouldn't Be Judged Solely On His First Class Still, this class will have long term negative ramifications.
Will or could? Do you think this class is so off-target that the needed player development is unlikely to happen?
This situation seems soo different than 2011 to me: overall roster, offensive staff, surrounding classes are still TBD. But I haven't done the film work you have, so I am curious how your eyes see it. Thanks French
You do realize that recruiting is roughly 90% of success in college football? I mean, sure, you can do a little better than you should with excellent coaching and development, but you'll never beat the big boys with any consistency with 40+ ranked recruiting classes.
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# | Justin Fuente's Recruiting Prowess Shouldn't Be Judged Solely On His First Class Remember, Coach Beamer built Tech on 3* players who didn't suffer from LOLUVA egos but played well as a team. Fuente has a great plan and is rebuilding at a much faster pace.
Yes, Fuente is bring some strong recruits, but I have confidence he will continue to build a complete program.
What do these two guys want, this is what Hokies wanted and what we should want
Dabo came in with a team in about the same spot as VT i think
While we were living on hype and the demanding to stay in state. Clemson was always getting better.
Dabo Played in the ACCCG in his 1st full year as coach. 8 years coaching, 4 ACCCG, 2 ACC championships, 1 Championship Game
This table is awesome. Thanks for the work it took putting it together!
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# | Hokies Jump into 2017, 2018 Recruiting Classes with Hosting Weekend Heavy on Virginia Prospects As we've seen, 'committed' means 'committed for now, until I change my mind'. LOL. But sad...
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# | Hokies Jump into 2017, 2018 Recruiting Classes with Hosting Weekend Heavy on Virginia Prospects Fuentes is definitely building a multi year power house program. It's nice to see he's planning to have a strong program year after year! Keep it up coach.... Don't forget to have a matching O-line!
Wow, PSU had 16,000 at the match... Pretty impressive.
ummmmmm... this is awkward, i've posted this a couple of times trying to say this so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwq8dfTxm_4
this is alabama S&C
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# | Justin Fuente's Recruiting Prowess Shouldn't Be Judged Solely On His First Class Speaking of which, who is our punter for next year?
I remember Texas fan sites reporting this as well. Right after they went ballistic when they found out he was visiting Mizz and VT
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# | Justin Fuente's Recruiting Prowess Shouldn't Be Judged Solely On His First Class So I have been thinking something similar. Is this a chicken or egg situation. Does it take a NC under your belt to land a a top 10 class? And then the more important question, what does it take for a team to break through and win a NC for the first time? Is there a bare minimum of classes that meat a certain threshold to achieve that first Natty?
It does not appear likely that we all off a sudden land a top 10 several years in a row. Is there a model?
I always have more questions than answers.
They don't "play." They wrestle. Sorry, but play seemed to demean the intensity of the sport
TURN UP THE WICK
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# | Mendenhall has unique take on red shirts and early enrollment Well his past players would have been 45 when they graduated, if they were redshirted. /s
I don't think he knows what 17/18 year olds are like, since he's never had one play for him before. Probably doesn't realize that not all kids are ready for college ball with only 1 month of preseason practice. /s
EDIT: decided to add both of the "/s" before someone freaks out
Well since he was never reported to be a WALK ON, most of us had no way of knowing bro. No need to be a smart A. He was on most verbal lists and never reported or stated to be a walk on. Thank you to the rest who answered with out being condescending and just answering the question. Wish the kid well.
Mastriani tries to make the other guy regret being on the mat
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# | Justin Fuente's Recruiting Prowess Shouldn't Be Judged Solely On His First Class Dmitri Knowles was fast too
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# | Wrestling Grudge Match: Hokies travel to Charlottesville to Clobber the Hoos! Hokiemacho, I don't know if you're connected to whoever does the Twitter account, but it was fantastic tonight. I wasn't at home and had to keep up on Twitter. They gave updates after every score.
Sign of intelligence my hokie friend.