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That's not actually correct as far as Fedora not missing a beat.
According to 247 UNC's recruiting classes have been:
- 2010 - 24th
- 2011 - 19th
- 2012 - 43rd (** Fedora's first recruiting class **)
- 2013 - 28th
- 2014 - 31st
- 2015 - 28th
- 2016 - 35th (currently)
Motuapuaka.
Gesundheit!
yea I didnt watch it till after I posted it. Man was he bad at it. I remember watching reruns all day during the summers when I was in high school.
There were always late positive surprises under Beamer and there's no reason to think there wouldn't have been any this year.
Hit players with boxing gloves?
I don't consider myself a wrestling expert, but I wrestled from little league through high school. I was thinking of writing a wrestling introduction, but I'm glad I didn't because this one is much better than the one i was planning on writing. Nice job, jerseyhokie
Some tough company we're going up against.
The thing I see with 2017 is yes we should absolutely see an improvement but again these guys have a lot on their plate having JUST been hired. Frank had been there for years, been to the NC, set up a nice streak of 10 win seasons, had a bowl streak, AND was the top of the list in wins. I mean no disrespect to Frank but we should have been landing recruits.
I do think your concern is well warranted. I too am worried that we are taking a step back but I truly believe it'll all go the way we hope.
Rankings are better than they used to be. But I feel like people miss the boat when they write these articles...Yes as a whole the system works, but nobody is looking at the system as a whole. They look at individual recruits or an individual class or an individual team.
People have not all of a sudden misunderstood statistics they just understand its not used in the same context as other statistical analysis. Its like if you were looking at global unemployment rates and then pulling out one particular individual from one individual country in one particular year and declaring that one person to be unemployed, or really its like dictating that persons entire life earnings based solely off their country of origin. It doesn't work that way, you may as well just flip a coin.
Don't get me wrong I like the ratings and I think they are meaningful, but they are subjective and aren't meant to be necessarily looked at as absolutes. They are endorsements, a pretty solid endorsement Id say, from people who have a really strong perspective of talent, especially across a particular years pool. But the context of it, any rating system that declares potential of a 17-18 year old kid is always going to have serious external factors and flaws, its just the nature of it.
I think Jarrod Hewitt is a perfect example, nationally maybe he doesn't fit into most teams schemes, but I think hes a huge get, and one name to watch for based off Bud's system. I think coaches look at kids, they see their attitudes and they see their potential of where they COULD be and ratings look more at kids of where they currently are.
Just my take. Thanks for the share; it is a good article, the data is well packaged and easy to digest. ..
Happy Signing Day yawllll.
Edit: So apparently today is in fact a Tuesday and not Wednesday - I was wondering why there was such little coverage...sighhh.
I think the growing as a coach is a secondary benefit. I don't believe Coach Fu wanted to publicly say "I don't know enough about Burden to coach WRs in my system." I think he wanted his WR coach who knows his system, knows that the coach can teach what he wants taught and how to teach it.
I think the RB coach is the coach with the least amount of actual coaching duties. What does an RB coach actually teach? Blocking... what else?
Being lazy is a stretch when we don't have the information. There could be a lot of different reasons for him leaving. I see this as more of losing heart or passion for the game. He could have been on the fence before the workout changes and it pushed him over.
We don't know all the facts so making statements like that is limited and short sighted.
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# | Justin Fuente's Playlist, "Blue Collar" Style Impress Florida Visitors on Big Recruiting Weekend I'm really interested in Tomon Fox and seeing if he'll flip to the good guys.
Regardless of how things pan out tomorrow, I think it's huge that Fuente was able to land Evans and Moore out of the JUCO ranks and get them enrolled early. I think both will end up starting next year. We need to establish a little more depth on the OL and with the receivers, but I honestly felt like we were one good QB away from having a potentially great offense next season. Having such a great QB competition in the spring is going to help us tremendously.
Absolutely, and I fully agree. I know bringing in a top class this year would have been too much to ask, but man, definitely seems like we're getting slapped around pretty decently right now. I mean, I remember when Fedora got hired at UNC and they didn't really miss a beat recruiting-wise, and right now, it just seems like we quickly resigned to the fact that this was essentially a burned class.
And I kind of disagree with 2017. We are not in a position where we can afford 2 bad classes in a row. That happened in 2010 and 2011 and eventually cost Frank Beamer his job. Next year, our recruiting must find its way or we're in for some long years down the line.
I guess what I'm most concerned with is that we didn't really see any changes defensively on our coaching staff, and yet some of our biggest areas of need on that side of the ball aren't really going to be addressed this year. LB is in a dire spot, where we need talent and depth, and we are seemingly missing out left and right. That worries me, because that staff didn't change.
without delving into an argument of pay for play etc, this is essentially a job, and those things are given to them because of the money they help generate for the school. they don't have a lot of recourse if they feel they are being overworked and want to seek out other options (part of NW wanted to unionize i believe)
Don't hate losing a lazy one
Fuente will have to show that he can develop the talent he gets. If he can overachieve with what he has then the more coveted recruits will take note and join. It would be interesting to see how first-time P5 coaches have done with their first recruiting classes compared to what Fuente has done this year.
That's sort of the direction that I wanted the "early signing" recommendation to go. Unfortunately they were throwing around Dec 15th (or there about) which isn't early enough IMO. They decided to table the recommendation until 2017 where they plan on looking more at recruiting rules.
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# | Justin Fuente's Playlist, "Blue Collar" Style Impress Florida Visitors on Big Recruiting Weekend The latter is what I'm leaning towards. Just like how the basketball interviews have gone the last few years with opposing ACC coaches: "Buzz will have VT on the top soon, great coach, etc." Sounds like he is still sold on UNC but respects the quality and passion of Coach Fuente.
He had 2 months to win the guys we had and to reach out to anyone else left. Beamer stepping down is a big deal because no one knew what coaches were going to remain. Those are the guys building the relationship with these kids. In the time that we're figuring out our staff these kids, rightfully so, are going to be looking around as a backup plan and sometimes they find a different path. To me this whole cycle is just "whatever happens, happens." The step back is completely to be expected.
It's all good though this step backwards is part of the process. I think Joe's comment earlier is really on point.
2016: Eh...
2017: Let's see what we can do
2018: The real first test
Sure, but imagine how bad it would be if Beamer didn't retire. We have a really good shot with guys like Tomon Fox, Dominique Ross, Coney Durr, Eron Carter, JaQuan Bailey, Tyree Rodgers, Ty Pigrome, and possibly guys like Chase Pine and Rick Wells. Comparing us to where we were a couple months ago, we appear to be in a much better position than most Tech fans expected us to be at NSD.
MV7 certainly doesn't.
Yeesh... this 2016 recruiting year is a brutal one for us. I know we're going to pick up a quality kid or three but for the most part, this likely isn't going to go down as one of our best years. I just hope its not too big a step backwards, though all the recruiting hits we've had in recent years should be able to help.
Don't get me wrong, all the faith in the world that we're going to be playing and recruiting at a high level down the line, but this definitely feels like a bit of a step backwards after the hop skip and jump forwards with the Fuente hire.
That should be a telling match on Friday....Forys has been winning a lot, but almost all of his opponents were not the best. He lost his only match to a top-40 guy, and he seemed to struggle with Morris last weekend who appears to be just outside the top 40.