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^^These are my exact thoughts. It saddens me that now that I am not a student I rarely get to any basketball games because of the schedule and the distance of 4 hours (near DC), which I think can be said for many alumni. IfI were any closer I would attend as much as possible. I even watched on the BigSouthSports.com website last night and haven't missed a game all season except for the UAB video stream fiasco.

I'd rather see what we are doing, and that is scheduling B1G teams to home and homes, than Tennessee. It opens more recruiting avenues and I am not convinced Tennessee is ever going to get back to the level that they were in the Fulmer era.

Wow. That's cool.

What's ironic is my son's favorite musical group of all time is Led Zeppelin. He likes a wide range of music genre's as well. We've gone to a few concerts together....Steve Miller Band, The Eagles. He's definitely not tied to only hip hop/rap music.

He recently competed and won The Flavor Battle (for DJ's) sponsored by McDonald's. He represented the East Coast and made it to the finals in NY last month. Here's the video of his final set (hope I linked it right). Check out the jersey he's wearing...haha.

DJ Battle Final Set

Going back to Logic....he's a straight up self-proclaimed nerd. He likes the Rubik's cube, anime and playing video games. He told me that growing up, he had a hard time fitting in. As a "white looking" kid (his father is black and his mother is white), the black kids didn't associate with him because he looked white. And the white kids didn't associate with him because they knew he was black (based on his siblings' skin color and features). So he sorted of ended up associating with hispanic kids. As he got older, he decided it was best to stop trying to fit in and just be himself.

I went and yes they were rowdy seen them boo one tech fan as he came in. Booed the team loudly when they took the court. When it was cut to 6 it was super loud. It was a high school gym feel. Really enjoyed it.

It's unfair to the genre and the lovers of the genre to automatically think "bad rap" at the mere mention of a rapper. Like I said below, I don't like "bad rap" either; I understand it and can vibe to it but I don't necessarily like it. Regardless, Logic is one of the furthest things we have from "bad rap" in today's manipulated mainstream rap arena. Go Hokies.

based on an assumption that the next hire is of the same or better caliber, Im not sure if thats the case.

It's almost always the case. I did an analysis of ACC and SEC schools coaches at the time of their last hire (as of October) and it was overwhelmingly the case that the new hire met expectations. UVA, Miami and Vandy were the schools who made a bad hire (London, Golden, Mason), and there were still some TBDs at SU, Ark, and NCSU. Lville, Auburn, and BC could maybe be argued or are still TBD. It's at least 75% that a school makes a hire that is the same or better quality going by that data set.

Unless they give Stiney the TEs to coach, I disagree with having a coach who is only responsible for recruiting. That's a position that is better used to develop talent. If Stiney were to get the Director of High School Relations, the position that Thomas Guerry has and is doing well at, I would not agree with it, but I would understand. The thing is though, Stiney is restricted to communications from campus and no visits in that role. I don't know enough about assistant coaches out there who would be good recruiters. I liked some of the ideas people mentioned of Chip West and Beatty from UVA, but if we keep Shane or Stiney, they need to have a position responsibility as well. Whether it's Shane with the RBs or even ST or Stiney with the TEs, they can't only have recruiting as their responsibility.

I hear that, I think the Stinespring staying as a recruiter makes sense because he has those connections, you never know though if those connections have gone stale.

What is clear, is if they do bring in someone new, without connections, you hope he can be an Aaron Moorehead type that can bring some rejuvination to areas we seemed to have lost.

I guess well see down the road if turnover was beneficial or not...

Its always hard to judge those things though, especially in a situation where you fire a good coach for a good coach. The Mark Richt firing looked bad initially, they got Kirby Smart, so on paper it doesnt look as bad as it seemed, but its hard to make that call right now, looking back will be easier.

I think the same point can be made for recruiting, I've heard people say schools recruit themselves, coaches change and the recruitment remains the same, but maybe, it could be just that the schools replaced a solid recuriting staff with a solid recruiting staff, its really only apparent when regimes are replaced with ones that dont work out.

I think the 'when in doubt go a different direction' might be based on an assumption that the next hire is of the same or better caliber, Im not sure if thats the case.

On an internal operational point of order, has whomever is responsible for re-setting the LOLUVA Coaching Fail Chart hit the reset button yet?

Yo this is dope. This comment made me starting this forum so worth it!

If you listen to Logic's music you know he comes from a troubled background, but what's great about him is that he uses it as motivation and inspiration to try to help others in similar situations through his music. Yes violence and ignorance is usually associated with rap/hip hop but there's a lot more to it than what the mainstream broadcasts. The culture has been manipulated so terribly but I won't get on my soapbox here about that. I run a hip hop website/blog called www.hiphopintellekts.com - it's full of good rap that promotes messages and I constantly speak out against the manipulation of hip hop and the negative influence of ignorant/gangsta rap (my last blog post was actually a Logic song haha). I plan on doing a post for your son and how he repped VT. I try to refrain from inserting my personal stuff but when a rapper's DJ reps VT on national TV, I kinda have to post it to the site.

Oh totally, I think grading a recruiter is so arbitrary anyway, unless you are in a room with the guy, have shook his hand and heard his pitch, you have no way of knowing if that person can recruit or not..

I guess better phrasing would have been

From the article it looked like from an internal BYU Perspective of BYU Fans they were saying he "was a guy who cant recruit, can only win 8 games..."etc.

Our perspective has been "Oh what a good hire for them, UVA's perspective has been "Hes such a great hire, we're coming back!"

I thought it was just interesting that BYU fans seemed ready to move on, which was surprising to me.

When in doubt, go in a different direction. UGA was right this year, LSU and WVU were wrong. Mendenhall was right to walk away.

ECU is a more complicated situation. Not sure they can do much better than Ruff was giving them, but I would also project their next 4 years under Ruff wouldn't be as good as their last four years.

Haha....you're right. That's funny.

In all seriousness, I don't have a twitter, don't use Facebook.....and I generally don't "publicly" talk about my son prior to the post on the TOS with regards to Fallon. I just thought it was cool to know a VT alum is performing on national TV AND he's gonna be reppin' Virginia Tech. They were on Fallon in Nov of 2014 and Kimmel in Jan of 2015 but again, I thought this go 'round with the VT shirt was certainly worthy of a shameless plug for my kid.

Thank you for the compliment by the way! He's certainly been able to cram a whole lotta living in his 24 short years travelling all over the country and the world. Their tour starts Feb 5th and goes until May 10th.....60 shows including about a dozen shows in Europe (UK, France, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Austria, Czech and Switzerland....I think that's it). My advice to him....stay away from the terrorists and make sure you get your frequent flyer miles!!

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