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Seems to me that if he leaves early, it will be because he was really successful. Loeffler will be able to fill in behind him with more talent.

I don't see a need for hand-wringing here. Play him if he's ready and if the team needs him. Otherwise, don't.

I think the training staff and nutritionists will be able to help him through that period. The rigors of camp and the healthy food they provide will help him keep dropping weight pretty fast even if it does slow down. If he can harness that self control and not cheat on the diet outside of the team meals, he can easily be in the 315-320 range by spring practices as the weight gets a little harder to drop. That would put him in the driver's seat to be ~310 and a monster inside for us next year.

Not to mention Shai and Marshawn. I think both of those guys should be redshirted...looks like Shai is making it tough for the coaches to sit him for the year but IMHO I think it needs to be done. I'd hate for him to get out on that knee too soon and hurt it again. I have to assume that tearing the same ACL 3 times is career ending...

A true debate, for sure, but I'm for a redshirt. I do believe, as much as I want the Hokies to win every game forever, that it will be in the best interest for the kid to have the time to learn, grow, get to know his team mates and forge the alliances that will pay off when he's ready to take the reigns for good and all. Sheer talent is fantastic, but a combination of sheer talent and a solid grasp of the schemes, strengths and weaknesses of the system is what will eventually pay the biggest returns, in my opinion. I do understand the "bring him in in mop up or defeat mode" games position, but I don't think that's enough experience to trump the benefits of a redshirt year. And, we're just writing off Motley, et al?

And Brian, your moving story reminds me of a friend I had not long after college who had a brand new pickup truck he was so proud of. One year later, he showed up at a party driving a twenty year old Porsche. When asked, he declared that he sold the pickup after the fifth friend's request that he help him move his/her household. He said his truck only had two seats anyway, these were the days before club cabs, and now he wouldn't have to move more than a lamp or a footstool, and suddenly his "help" seemed no longer needed at all.

"I try to achieve something every day, burn one or two pounds a day, so hopefully by the end of camp I can burn 15 to 20 pounds," Settle said.

I just hope he doesn't get too discouraged when those easy pounds stop dropping off. Anyone who's been obese and dropped weight knows that the two-pounds-a-day period is only at the very beginning.

Agreed. Redshirt him. Let him learn and develop. We have Motley and Durkin who can cover garbage time and read option plays.

While we all hope he is our QB of the future and starter next year, it is very possible he is backup to Motley next year and then is a 3 year starter after that while getting more reps next season. The coaches should plan on him being here 5 years and if he is that elite of a player who can jump early to the NFL, we are going to win some games and the QB recruiting will be on fire for Leoffler at that point.

Well to a point I agree... but I'll amend that a bit.

Does the potential to help win now outweigh the potential for them to help win in their RS Sr year. If they would help more now than then, play them now, but if the coaches feel they would have better productivity than who they believe can fill in for them in 2019, then keep them out.

I just don't buy into the whole "what if he leaves early" trepidation.

If he leaves early, it can only mean Loeffler is as good at training up QBs as everyone says he is, and that kind of coaching talent easily attracts more great prospects.

While the odds of him actually leaving early are slim, I think we'll be better than fine if Lawson only spent two seasons under center before heading to the NFL.

I think it's a straight forward question. Do our coaches believe that Lawson or Settle would help us win games that we would otherwise lose?

  • If yes - play them
  • If no - redshirt them

No playing in garbage time to get experience, no redshirt to set up for future years. If they make our team better now, they play. Otherwise, redshirt em.

^Agree. We all knew MV7 had the potential, but I don't think anyone could have envisioned what he truly ended up doing for VT when he first arrived on campus (from what I recall he was a 3/4* recruit depending on which site.) Yes, he could be considered an anomaly (few of his caliber pass through at a single school), but the RS was the best thing for him. Giving DL2 garbage time isn't worth burning his RS. The only way it should get burned is a complete disaster of the other 3 viable options going down or showing complete ineptitude. If he is what they say, then a 5th yr DL2 is probably unlikely, but hey, we never know. Hell, RS-ing and running the scout team O vs. 1st D may be the best possible preparation for him going into his RS-f campaign.

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