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Virginia Tech: $3,280 in-state, $3,620 out-of-state. Paid twice a semester for on-campus students, three times a semester for off-campus.
I agree that there shouldn't be a fuss. But, media. So there is.
Now that we know the policy was in place and fines levied, does that change your perspective ?
"Don't want to look like absolute fools for wasting a 1st rounder on Manuel."
Too late for that
I would upvote this as many times as there were turkeys at my workplace this morning if I could. Maybe more. Best comment on this thread.
What I don't get... How are the kids playing these fines? Bowl stipends? I mean excuse my ignorance, but I didn't think the stipends were enough to cover some of these charges. I mean you're looking at a $300 find for 2 uniform violations. Have a messy dorm 3 times a year and that's $150. Have a messy locker on to of that, another $150. Unless these kids are getting thousands in bowl stipends, where does the money come from?
If the answer at all is that they have to pay out of pocket, that's absurd. These kids aren't allowed by NCAA guidelines to get paid while in school, so even a simple fine could be disproportionately severe. And this also gives the pay for play movement a legitimate leg to stand on because now we have physical evidence these kids are already being fined real money for mishaps while they are here, and if that's going to happen, we have to allow them to earn money to cover costs.
Just bad all around. Very disappointed in our football staff today.
He is still upset about One Direction.
A couple of instant classic burns on this thread. Well done everyone.
Looks like we also picked up a NerdMagic. Also nicely done, you beautiful disaster, you.
This doesn't look good. Expect this to be part of the Bud Foster mythology going forward. Too bad.
Someone upthread suggested an AMA with the compliance office. Like +1. Might mitigate some PR for Whit. Would certainly be informative.
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10 years 11 months
# | Virginia Tech Defensive Media Session: A very newsworthy chat with Bud Foster Get original
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Or, I don't know, cut their playing time for mistakes rather than issuing fines.
I can't. But if he didn't and Beamer knew about this and it was never brought to his attention then that's a huge problem.
What Whit did was damage control. If he came out and said yeah I know about this and approved it that would be worse than his "I nipped it in the but" comment.
So what you're saying is rather than charging them money, you'd rather them say "okay, you don't get the team backpack, warmups, shoes, hats, socks, jackets, etc. that they already get for free as part of that uniform contract deal?
Yea, it was halted before people lost part of their stipends to it.
So the timing was at least good.
I can believe Whit had no idea about it.
Particularly given the speed with which he "nipped it in the Bud".
Offseason please go.
Well the that's not the schools issue then.
If a kid doesn't want to get fined then listen and abide by the rules. Is it that hard to expect a kid to go to class, go to training, tutoring and meetings all while getting a "free" education?
The issue (at least from the media perspective, which is where this will really matter), how do you justify fining someone for money that they arn't even making for playing the sport? This isn't the NFL (...the NCAA continues to pretend...).
But if a kid doesn't get paid to suit up to play, how can you possibly fine him monetarily if his uniform isn't spot on? In the NFL this happens because the teams and league have lucrative deals with suppliers that they then use to help pay contracts. In the NCAA, the players see none of this benefit.
The issue is not accountability (which everyone needs). The issue is this is going to get spun in several ways, and NONE of them will end with VT looking good from a recruiting perspective.
ESPN Game Day will be in Blacksburg in 11 days. I guarantee you this will be a big topic of conversation when discussing us, if not the main topic.
The difference being that kids don't want to jump off a bridge...and kids also don't want to get fined. People are more likely to believe you when you tell them what they want to hear, whether its true or not. The "jump off the bridge" comparison is nonsense.
Give a dog a bone.
Woops, I misunderstood the post I replied to. Watching people drive all day for work melts your brain.
I think that the fact that Whit has ended the chance of this policy being implemented is being overlooked. It ain't happening here, folks. Apparently, Cincy is still implementing it. I'm sure there are others that have similar policies as well. If we aren't doing it, what's the big deal? We've corrected the issue.
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10 years 11 months
# | Bitter blog - Babcock offers clarification on player fines, shuts down entire practice Disapproving Whit is correct. This was ill-conceived, given the current environment.
Is that already in place this year? I thought that was going in next year