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Many players hold out every year. Some teams give in a lot sooner than others. Dez Bryant held out against the Cowboys for a while until they gave in and gave him the long term contract he wanted.
such blind faith in Loeffler and why he gets absolved of all blame for the last two years
I don't get this. I really don't. I see people in one of three camps:
1. We haven't performed well, due to a combination of a lot of factors
2. Loeffler is awful
3. Insufficient data to judge definitively so far, this year really says a lot
No, not at all. But if there was a coach whose position isn't necessary, it's the one that Cornell is in. If those who are clamoring for a Special Teams coach want someone to remove, he would be it for me. Beamer wants Cornell there and that's good enough for me.
I'll adjust that slightly. Points on the board, yes, but in a dominate defensive game, third down conversion and red zone TD% are critical stats for the offense. Those stats indicate the offense is still functioning and playing a role in the win while we maintain a lead.
Total offense is a feel good stat anyway. I prefer to get down into the situational stats to judge an offense.
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I'm a big fan of Clark at FS, he's going to have a huge year.
As solid as the 2CB spots and the FS are going to be, we just need a Rover who is dependable.
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# | "Virginia Tech offensive coordinator Scot Loeffler seeks more balance in his life" No, I'm just not seeing why people are showing such blind faith in Loeffler and why he gets absolved of all blame for the last two years. It's one thing for Bud to get a level of blind faith; what's Loeffler done to earn it?
What about Colorado's makes it a top 10 poster? Looks pretty bland to me.
The Mizzou one is pretty sweet.
I was out of state for fan day, anyone got the word on where to get a copy of this?

Kam is the only player out of 1700 holding out. You can change it to "how the NFL works" if you prefer.
you left out the part where SLC sites all of the other offensive turnarounds in the country that clearly show SL is not cut out to be an OC
But Cornell is on my list of first to go
Seems like you have a problem with how Beamer is running Beamer co.?
Double post
Here's the stat I heard "Teams were 1-7 the week after playing Navy." So with Temple and GSU having bye weeks, they had a week to regroup.
Does this mean much? No. Just an interesting trend on how difficult playing Navy was.
Ohio State - loss
Temple - bye week
Texas State- loss
Rutgers- Win
Western Kentucky - Loss
Air Force - Loss
VMI - Loss
San Jose State - Loss
Notre Dame- Loss
Georgia Southern- Bye
Thing about these stats.... when our defense is rolling, you can't put too much stock into YPG, because we're going to consistently have short fields to work with, so points on the board is what really matters.
Hmmm, not sure how to map that
VT's best Defensive seasons are its worst Offensive and VT's best Offensive seasons are its worst Defensive

My observations
2008-2010 The ball wasnt always moving far but the team was scoring points
2010 The defense was very good at preventing the ball movement but didnt let the other team score
2011 our scoring offense didnt carry its weight for the ball movement
TOP is all over the place and no clue if it has a pattern to the defense
SOURCE CFBSTATS.COM
You've gone hurling headlong over the threshold of patently absurd now. You are now having hypothetical arguments with what hypothetical people might or might not say after an upcoming season IF the offense is bad.
At this point...what's the point? The conversation is going like this:
Scot Loeffler Critic: The offense is terrible.
Me: Yeah, it's been an underwhelming two years, hasn't it? But I've always said, you get three years to install your scheme.
SLC: Scot Loeffler sucks as an OC.
Me: Well, he walked into a tough situation here. OL in disarray, no real QB on the roster.
SLC: He sucked at Auburn and now he sucks here.
Me: Auburn was a square peg in round hole situation. Chizzik had no idea how to transition from spread to pro style, and he hired a young OC to try to do it. Not sure anyone with Loeffler's experience could have managed that. Plus, he had a pretty good year at Temple. That makes me hopeful.
SLC: But our offense suuuuuuuuuuuuucks.
Me: Yeah, I'm not happy with these numbers either. But rationally, could we have expected any other OC to do a better job?
SLC: Why can Loeffler do no wrong in your mind? Why are you such an apologist?
Me: Not trying to be an apologist, just waiting to see what Scot can manage with a healthy OL and a QB who knows the playbook. He hasn't had that in two years.
SLC: Whatever, you'll just be making excuses after we suck again this year.
Me: I'm not sure I've ever said-
SLC: 
What people don't realize about TCU (or possibly in this case, completely refuse to realize) is that they always had players in the system that could run the offense they're running now, and it was the coaches who had to adjust. They had the talent there, and had a solid OL that could work together, and they really just needed to change up how they called the game to maximize the ability of those players. The TCU coaches even admitted this last year.
The problem with VT is that we had no talent on offense before Loeffler. We had nothing to build upon. All those higher ranked recruiting classes those who love to lambast Loeffler... Those were built off the guys we brought in on defense, which is no surprise, as the defense has remained playing at a high level. He didn't have anything to adjust to, there was no scheme that would have made our team play at a consistent high level. So instead of looking to short term adjust, we went for the long term rebuild. You cannot make any judgement off these last 2 years.
The next 2 seasons will legitimately show what we have. If we don't have a well oiled machine by the middle of 2016, when we're running a roster solely consistent on Loeffler recruits, then we have problems. Until then, you just have to give it time.
Who doesn't Gruden love?
Yeah i guess he would Jedi mind trick them into commiting with this look
There's no guarantee of linear progression during a rebuild. If you commit to X years, you wait until after year X to formulate an opinion on the effectiveness of the change. You keep your eyes open and follow trends during those years,sure, but that's not what you're doing. You're being a vocal critic and calling out anyone who isn't a fellow critic.
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Unless it was photoshopped
The prospect of that swiss cheese OL makes it feel like 2008-10 all over again.

The danger in overreacting too soon is that eventually the sentiment gets so loud the administration catches on and starts pulling triggers on replacements far too early in a rebuild and just screws everything up. Prime example: NC State. Trust me, you do not want to go down that path. Those fans are perpetually miserable with what they perceive to be under performing programs. Got help Doeren if they don't win the Atlantic this year. Heck, most of the fans were ready to run Gottfried out of town right before that Sweet 16 run this past year.
Unfortunately, with this consistent B&M about Loeffler and some of the things I heard from certain areas about Buzz this past season, I do worry we're headed down that path.