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No doubt the OSU offense has a lot of weapons. I just think the point where you and I differ is to what degree trickery/substituting in Miller or other QBs for novelty plays will be utilized and how effective they will be. I, myself, just don't see how taking one of your best receivers or H-backs out of the game for Miller here and there is a good decision. If you're doing it to set up a trick pass, you're going to have to have him in for multiple plays so it's not a dead giveaway what you're trying to do. At that point, do you really want one of your best weapons off the field that much just to set up a gadget play? I have no doubt OSU will use Miller some as a decoy, but I just don't think his role will be that significant, IMHO. It will be really difficult for him to become dominant at a new position and unseat guys who have been playing there for a long time in one month.
Yeah...it's a pretty common misconception, but you can't just add 8 pounds of just muscle over 3 months. Not really how the body works.
Imagine what he could have done if he'd gone hard on every play? He probably dropped enough passes that if he'd caught just a few of them, he'd have broken 1000.
no worries man - we're all in this together!
Nice capture Joe!
My understanding of defensive football involves the idea that you look at what the opponent does well, and what weapons they have, and you try to take away their strengths. If the QB is a run/throw threat, and the RB can gash you and catch the ball, and you have a deep threat or two out wide, a possession receiver or two, and an H back that can line up anywhere and is a threat to run, catch, or throw - it becomes a really difficult chore to prioritize threats and game plan to deal with them. It's the proverbial "pick your poison" dilemma. That comes from the generally accepted idea that defenses can stop maybe one thing, contain maybe one more thing, and hope the offense helps them out on anything else.
The optimism of people looking at this Ohio State offense comes from the sense that there are too many threats for a normal defense to cover. Whether that's true or not, we will find out on Sept 7. If Bud Foster can't do it, then probably no one will. But I expect him to give it his best shot, and it will be up to his players to execute what he comes up with. But you would expect him to sell out to stop RB/QB runs, with the secondary goal of preventing explosive passing plays. It will come down to whether the OSU QB can find the right guy to get the ball to, whether that player can beat the player defending him, and how well each player executes his job from that point on.
I'm an OSU homer, for sure, but I'm not willing to sell my soul via dishonesty to say something I don't believe. I really do think the OSU offense will be the epitome of the "pick your poison" type of unit, but I could be wrong. To me, if VT's 11 can hold that unit down, and win a majority of the plays, I will have no choice but to bow down to the superiority of that defense and the genius of Bud Foster. And I will do that if the final score indicates. Hold me to it. :)
Because you charge them with highest charge, I'm going to arrest you for "Drunk in public" you resist and I'm charging you with resisting. I'm going to write you a ticket and you tear that ticket up or refuse to to sign it then it's resisting.
this particular situation aside, I think it's funny that someone could be arrested for resisting arrest (and that's the only charge). Sounds like something from an Abbott and Costello bit.
"what was he arrested for?"
"resisting arrest"
"well, what were they trying to arrest him for?"
"I told you, resisting arrest"
Who do you pull off the field to get him on? He hasn't thrown in how long? If he could stil throw he would have at least tried to fight for that QB spot.
If bowl stats counted in 1999, Davis would have finished the season with 42 reception for 1070 yards after his 7 catch 108 yard performance in the Sugar Bowl.
I've largerly stayed out of this conversation, but I'd rather those guys try to beat out top talent like a Tino Ellis. I think we can still have a walk-on culture where the Rogers of the world can shine and still pull in top talent.
Yeah, I honestly really hope they actually try all of that stuff I mentioned. Let's have JT at QB, Jones at FB, and Miller out wide. Sounds great.
This honestly reminds me of back in circa-09, when the wildcat craze was at its height in the NFL. I remember speculation that the Patriots might try and find a wildcat QB. But the general thought was, yeah having a guy come in for 5-10 plays a game or a series is great, but you really want to take Brady, the best QB in the NFL, off the field for all those plays? The only person you end up tricking is yourself.
Sorry to hear this, can't be anything but sad at young man's troubles.
God I hope they put all three on the field at the same time.
I'm not really understanding the sentiment by some OSU fans on getting 2 or 3 of the QBs on the field at the same time or alternating them. I really think it's a silly way of trying to rationalize/utilize the depth at QB. Let's look at this honestly: unless something has changed, you can only have 11 guys on the field at once. So if you want to run a gadgety trick play or some clever formation with all 3, what two guys are you taking off the field? You really want to take a Zeke Elliott or one of your best receivers out to have Miller, a guy who has played QB his entire career and hasn't been healthy in a year, line up in the formation? And even the notion of giving one QB an entire series or quarter is ridiculous. How are you ever going to let a QB get into the flow of the game switching guys in and out? Sure, a wildcat guy for 10-15 plays a game in certain down-and-distance situations is fine, but there's no way a guy can get into the feel of the game being moved all over the place.
The whole Miller thing is just a non-issue for me. Yes, the guy is talented and a threat with the ball in his hands, but he's not going to suddenly be dominant at a new position in one month. Putting him on the field will most likely be as a decoy to test the defense; you will have to account for him, but I don't think he is going to be incredibly effective. Yes, if a QB can get him the ball in space, he can make a play. But you trust him to run crisp routes game 1 against an All-American like Fuller or another talented DB of ours? I just don't think taking your best players out for "trickeration" is a very smart idea to depend on.
Speaking of The Program, I can't help but believe they largely modeled that team after FSU; the school colors even look the same
The go to cheap beer in my day was Weidemanns. I believe it was made from recycled newspaper.
I did, however, take great solace in the fact that it was "registered pure"...
Based on his vine of the backflip catch, he has added good weight.
OT - I'm passing time by watching the 2004 season.
Observation - Bryan Randall should have gotten an Oscar nod for his play action. Dude could flat sell a fake.
If I was Meyer, I wouldn't want Tech to know what he was doing until Ohio State's offense first took the field. Have to wonder if he's unhappy the potential cat got out of the bag.
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I use it but the app is not exactly without faults. The same videos could easily be uploaded to better platforms.
You completely misunderstand/are misusing the medium. Snapchat is supposed to give you a quick glance into someone's life. Media isn't put on snapchat to be analyzed or replayed (obviously).
West End Buffalo Chicken wrap was the shat. I also lived of that, Hokie Clubs, Milwalkee Beast Ice, and high life 40s
I posted on here on another thread why I thought Braxton would go to a slash position. It made too much sense for his shoulder situation, his NFL future, and Ohio State's needs. Now Ohio State has a more manageable 2-headed QB monster and they added a weapon into the arsenal. It was a no-brainer IMO. If it hadn't happened, I would have been pissed, but it really had to be. At the same time, I think if Braxton thought he could throw and stay healthy, he would have competed at QB because that's where his heart is. So this decision, while best for his now and future still represents a form of sacrifice.
Braxton Miller is a freak with the ball in his hands in the open field. The chance to get the ball to him in those situations will stress any defense. The big question with him is, and will always be, can he be durable? He is injury prone - and that's an understatement. But if he is on the field, he will scare the bejeebers out of people - and rightfully so. We'll have to see if he can hold up to the punishment. Assuming he gets through camp healthy, game 1 is not when you want to see him, but I would have the goal of hitting him hard every time he touches the ball and even when he doesn't.
I would ask you guys to watch Ohio State's games 3-12 last year, and then say you want to see JT again. Because I have watched all of those games (multiple times), I believe that JT runs the Urban Meyer offense more efficiently than any QB ever has in the history of the Urban Meyer offense. He is a born leader, he is tough as nails, he can run every concept in the playbook from first to last, he distributes the ball to all weapons, he gets it to the right guy at the right time, he has remarkable touch and accuracy, he makes the right reads a high percentage of the time, and he helps old ladies across the street. I'm obviously a JT guy. :)
I believe Cardale will get at least a series a quarter, and he will stress defenses by stretching the field with accurate downfield passing and with power running. That's my take on it FWIW.
PS: The thing about Ohio State players staying out of trouble is interesting to me. Urban took over an OSU program on probation due to the Tatgate scandal and a history of tons of arrests and troubled players at Florida. He got here, and anyone who got into trouble met with immediate suspension, and, ultimately, tough punishment. Carlos Hyde slapped AT a woman in a club who had hit him - 4 games. Stud CB Brad Roby got in a bar fight - 4 games. A TE lost a year for underage drinking. The last guy to get into trouble was last Memorial Day when DE Tracy Sprinkle was involved in a riot/fight at the "Grown and Sexy Lounge" (if you can believe that) in Lorain, Ohio. Urban's discipline has been somewhere between appropriate and excessive, but it seems to have had the effect of making young men think about putting themselves in places and positions where they are going to find trouble. I give kudos to Urban for learning from past mistakes and creating a culture where this BS will not be tolerated.

I know Frank said he was done asking for things but do you think the Hokie club could spring for a scale that doesn't look like it came from the hay barn?