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You respond to each situation as it arises. As it stood, she kneed at him (you can see it in the GIF) without making any serious contact (in my opinion) and tried to punch him while being restrained and not making any real contact. At that stage he is in just about 0 danger of serious injury and could have walked away, continue restraining her, called a bouncer, etc.

If after doing all of that, she comes at him with a broken beer bottle, then she has escalated the situation and he can in turn escalate his force in self defense.

Edit: Also, she is not without blame in the situation. Looks to be a crowded bar, he bumped her (potentially not his fault if he too was bumped), she got upset, and things spiraled. But to sit here and genuinely believe that his punch was the appropriate response is something I can't wrap my head around.

I don't think anyone has said that here.

People have been raised differently. After watching the video, I'd say put yourself in both person's shoes. In her shoes, here's a guy who bumped into you and might be getting a little mouthy with you. Perhaps you've already been bumped into and had other guys "accidentally" grope you all night and you're tired of it. So, you turn around and stand up to this guy; maybe tell him to back off or you'll punch him; and then he grabs your arm. What would you do? What would you think?
For his side: You're just trying to get a drink. You fight your way through a crowd and accidentally bump into a girl, who turns around and threatens you with a fist in the air. What would you do? How would you react?

In this case, it ended poorly. To say that she wouldn't have swung at him if she thought he would hit back is kind of the wrong way to go with it. It wasn't as simple as that. She didn't just swing at him for the hell of it. She swung at him because he was holding her arm and not letting go.

Perception of a threat plays a big role in determining the way these things play out, and she clearly perceived a threat.

And what if the next thing she did was pick up a broke glass or bottle.

She didn't.

So many hypotheticals going on in here trying to cloud what actually did happen in an effort to justify his actions.

I agree with you. He should have removed himself. However, why isn't she responsible for her actions as well? She could have turned and walked away too. She didn't have to hit him. I get that you hate where people blame the woman, but what about the other side? The side that blames the man because women can do no wrong.

The dude is a jerk and deserves everything coming his way. He is, without a doubt, the person most in the wrong and deserves punishment. With that said, she is not innocent either. I'd even wager that she would not have swung at him if she thought there was even a chance for this to happen. Screw men, women, black, or white. Right or wrong, if a human punches another human in the face the aggressor should expect some form of retaliation. Simply being a woman should not give you the right to punch anyone you want in the face nor should it give you the right to knee a guy in the nuts without some repercussion.

Ultimately, it will be up to the prosecutor to decide charges.

That being said, and looking at the full video on that link:

1. Can't tell whether or not he pushed her or was trying to get through a crowd to get to the bar and got pushed into her.
2. Can't hear what's being said.
3. Her body language says she's a bit inebriated and threatened. The fist is essentially a "back away from me or I'll hit you" sign.
4. He grabbed her arm, but can't see any words being exchanged. The grabbing of the arm is an act of domination and control, typically. Hands up and exposing the chest would be a "I don't want any trouble" response.
5. Can't tell what initiated her punch, but she does try a couple times to pull her restrained arm out of his grip, and fails. She punches at him and it's hard to tell whether she actually connects.
6. He pulls back, still holding her other arm, and pulls her into his punch, and then walks/runs out of frame.

Of note, if she's right handed, which would be suggested by her initial fist, then she would have minimal control/power with her left fist. He has his left hand holding her right, so, if he's right handed, he's in a prime position of power to defeat someone. This could denote some training in fighting, which would be taken into consideration with the level of charges.

Her body language (and a good attorney would get a specialist to back it up) says that she's feeling threatened but taking a stand, which would probably get a "self-defense" look.

Also, there were two opportunities to de-escalate that were not taken. One, mentioned above with regards to grabbing the arm. Two, the reaction to the punch from her.

This was not a brawl. This was not a big guy against a big guy. At no point did his body language suggest he was feeling threatened, except with her punch, but his reaction wasn't a "whoa, whoa, whoa".

A good defense attorney for him (now, I don't know his background) will argue that his was pure reaction based on previous fights/training/what-have-you.

This is not a comment on whether she was in the wrong, he was in the wrong, or calling anyone names. The law will decide when it comes to that point. Perhaps, as well, others see it differently.

To me, you do have a right to defend yourself, but typically defending oneself in the eyes of the law requires a reasonable feeling of threat, and doesn't extend to retaliatory measures when the threat has stopped being a threat, and whether or not that is the case with his punch is for the justice system to decide.

That's essentially what we did with Williams last year. Rush the ends hard, with Williams coming up to make sure there aren't any interior gaps for the QB to slip through. I'd expect to see something similar this time.

French, how do you feel about the threat of QB runs? With our DBs running downfield with backs to the LOS, along with OSU's proven, excellent QB depth (and no fear of injury concerns), if I were UM I would have QBs taking off left and right.
Is a spy in the mix for us?

TBF - I agree this guy is a jerk. I was contending the general argument that "You should never hit a lady even if she hits you first". Screw that - if I feel that i'm in danger, then I'll knock her out.

TBF - I agree this guy is a jerk. I was contending the general argument that "You should never hit a lady even if she hits you first". Screw that - if I feel that i'm in danger, then I'll knock her out.

Dude did you not read what I originally wrote? I agree this guy is a jerk, but I was contending the general argument that "You should never hit a lady even if she hits you first". Screw that - if I feel that i'm in danger, then I'll knock her out.

We had our first in May and our second in August (2 years later, to avoid any confusion). Here's what we learned:

-being pregnant in summer is awful. Much better to make sure your third trimester doesn't run into the hottest months (boom, september/october babies avoided)
-babies need to stay warm at night, but sleepers (footy pajamas) are a pain for newborns, both getting them on and getting them off to change diapers. Onesies are the way to go and those work best in warm summer months
-a lot of newborns will just sit quietly and look around if they are in a dynamic environment, like being outside. But that only works if it's warm enough to be comfortable. Our second always got too cold outside as an infant, no matter how we dressed her. Our first would calm down immediately when outside.
-Time in the pool is great for taking the stress off your wife's body imposed by carrying around extra weight/all the other crazy changes that happen during pregnancy. Spring is just warm enough to be able to go to most indoor pools without freezing your butt off.

potential problem with this plan: May baby means morning sickness basically til rivalry weekend (depending on the woman/pregnancy of course) which can make for some friction when it comes to trying to enjoy the season as you normally would.

Maybe my perspective is skewed because I work two out of three weekends, on evening shift.

But my kid arrived in late September 2012. So, between the time off for baby leave (which I split into two parts), regular weekends off, conveniently timed night games, and then Thanksgiving, I only had to work during one game -- and it was against Austin P.

A someone said on Twitter, "If you must mix alcohol with fireworks, please, please, please remember to have someone standing by to capture video."

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