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The more this goes the more I am inclined to agree on the root of the problems at VT over the past 20 years being more in the board than anything to do with Whit. I don't think we know enough about him to determine if he's a good or bad AD because I genuinely don't think he's been giving a legitimate fighting chance to position ourselves as a peer to the schools we are trying to compete with. I think it's a bunch of crap that we just happened to find this pile of money to fund our football team with after spending years patting ourselves on the back for our ability to do more with less, and a rapidly growing alumni base and a student body that on average is the most affluent in the conference (before SMU was admitted).

Our claims of poverty never really aligned with the profile of school we had become. And now we suddenly have all this money? Uh huh

My hot take is that while Babcock is far from the best athletic director in P5, he's also far from the worse. I wouldn't be upset if he was fired/poached tomorrow. Nor am I upset that he is being retained.

I don't fault him for his football hires - I think he made good hires that addressed VT's known weaknesses at the time of the hire. Decent process, bad results. It happens. I do think his mismanagement of Hokie Club has been pretty terrible but I also think Whit has been setup to fail.

While I cannot prove it, I do think he was (at times) hamstrung by the powers that be:

  • I am convinced that he was ready to fire Fuente in 2020 and was overridden by Sands
  • I am convinced that this BoV presentation/resulting action had been in the works for years, but Whit was waiting until members of BoV rotated to included people who are more pro-athletics.

There is no way for me to prove these things to be true, but until I see evidence to the contrary, I choose to believe them.

This is a good point on the travel, but I think in terms of high end potential, this is a pretty brutal schedule, relative to the ACC. Getting 3 out of 4 games on the road against Clemson, SMU, and Miami is pretty brutal, regardless of the bye week inbetween Clemson and SMU. We might be limping into that Clemson game with injuries/exhaustion as well.

There's a non-zero chance that those 3 teams are in the top 5 of the ACC, and even if Clemson doesn't bounce back, it's still a talented team on the road.

I am happy it's back, but they really missed an opportunity by not calling it Sub Station IV, so we could all try to figure out what happened to III.

I really hope Babcock is let go in April and administration can use the late spring and summer slow period to find a suitable replacement. The new AD would be stuck with fall and winter sport coaches, but would have time to make changes for the following spring sports. While Babcock has made improvements and enhancements, VT feels like it has lagged its peers during his tenure

And we all feel a little skeptical because they should easily have 3 more wins or 3 more losses. The late game performance is concerning. While the boys have held on for some wins that could have easily been L's they gave away 3 wins, two to poor teams. The next 5 are going to determine if this team goes dancing or is watching like the rest of us.

This is the wildest take on Teel I think I've ever seen. I respect your opinion on him, but dang. He's a legend and I have been listening to him and reading his articles for years. I think he's one of the most knowledgeable, un-biased and due-giving writers I've ever come across.

As frustrating as this team is, let's appreciate this:

Last season, #Jokies were 170 in NET at 13-19.
This season the#Hokies are currently at 55 and 16-6.

That or when Drones is behind a competent O Line at these Senior Bowl games, he performed well.

Teel is a terrific thought piece writer.

But, Babcock earning a check is an insult to every mildly competent AD in P5 sports.

You forgot his middle initials, MF.

Just a reminder, the images in the main post are updated as new data comes in. They are currently showing snow and ice accumulations for this weekend, not last.

Potential snow accumulation, SWVA:

Potential snow accumulation, eastern VA:

Potential snow accumulation, NOVA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia%E2%80%93Virginia_Tech_football_rivalry

Been there done that in the past! First Night Game in Lane Stadium , Thanksgiving Day,November 25, 1982, Virginia, W 21–14.

"Since 1990, the game has nearly always been held in late November, often on Thanksgiving weekend. The scheduling of this rivalry has taken the place of Virginia's South's Oldest Rivalry game versus North Carolina, which was played on Thanksgiving Day every year between 1910 and 1950 (save for when the programs disbanded during World War I).[a] It has also taken the place of the VMI–Virginia Tech football rivalry which was held on Thanksgiving Day up through 1971. In 1964, the UVA–VPI[b] game began alternating between Lane Stadium and Scott Stadium on the campuses of the two universities. Previously, the series was sometimes played in Richmond, Norfolk, and at Victory Stadium in Roanoke.[c]"

Don't know if anyone remembers, but Teel went way out of his way to defend Bronco's quick and undignified exit from UVA. Obviously in thrall with UVA, doesn't his son play there? Either way, he kissed Bronco's ass enough to pay rent for the month defending the move. I never really liked him or his writing, but after that, I tuned him out.

Does that mean that this is one of the weakest QB classes in recent memory that he is 10th?

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