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12 years 6 months
# | Bitter blog - As an era comes to an end, a look back at the Hokies' checkered history in the BCS And Oregon came within 3 of winning it, and VT had a lead in the 4th..
The big difference between the two, despite the flaws of both, is that when pressured, Logan was MUCH more likely to make a play when the defense should/has won than Leal. His physical presence opened up space for other guys. On a team where they need playmakers, there was never a doubt over who should be the starter. Never.
I can't imagine Bud would leave before the end of next year. If he stays through 2014, he gets that $800k in deferred compensation. I guess if a program really wanted him badly enough they could pay him an extra $800k, but I don't know that his stock is high enough to land a program with those kind of pockets.
Any time after 2014, and I don't know...all I've ever heard is that he wants to be an HC bad.
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12 years 6 months
# | Bitter blog - As an era comes to an end, a look back at the Hokies' checkered history in the BCS I had to walk away from my computer, this was making me chuckle too loudly for work conference call
And whomever that coach is can tag-team waitresses with Petino; maybe something along the lines of the Eiffel Tower
Excellent point.
He used the I and an ace with an H back and a tight end often at Auburn and Temple. I am not really sure why he didn't use it as often with Edmunds. IF I were a betting man, I'd bet that it had something to do with Logan's comfort level playing under center.
Still, teams saw a pattern. Early in the year, they would line up in the I and have great success throwing down field off play action. Sometimes, it was the only play series that effectively got receivers open beyond 10 yards besides the fake veer dive-skinny post to Coles. But, teams finally figured out (ACC coaches are slow) that I formation between the 20's in play action almost every time. The linebackers stopped biting and dropped, getting them underneath those routes. UCLA got burned once. The second time, Zumwalt recognized it and jumped the play.
Something tells me that if Bud tried hard enough, he could air-choke someone from across the room.
He had considered it, but just as a Zebra can't change his stripes, there is no "I" in Loeffler
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Like I said, I hear what you are saying, I just disagree. And I think this analysis only confirms that the situation was a lot more gray than black or white. Hypothetically, if Logan broke his leg in the WCU game and was out for the season and Mark Leal was the starter, forcing Loeffler to abandon the Logan-Specific aspects of his game plans to something else...do you really think that this would have been a much different result than we saw this year? 8-5 against a weak schedule with a Sun bowl loss? You probably do, and that's cool. I don't.
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That doesn't mean that might not take another one given the right opportunity.
This just makes me hope even more that the running game gets going. We're going to need it.
Not counting a possible transfer in from Florida. I think the competition next year is going to be decided between Leal and Ford in the spring. I think Durkin's arrival in the fall is going to hamper him too much to be a starter this year. As a result I see Durkin redshirting.
I think Logan will want to be a QB first, but he would be smart enough to recognize if it's not going to happen and swap positions in a year or two. Even if he's undrafted I'm sure he'll work out in camps for a year or so before he seriously considers position changes.
For some reason, we didn't practice/run the I formation much this year. I would guess it was because LT was more comfortable in the pistol or shotgun formation only. I would like to see a lot more conventional formations next year.
This analysis, though, make it pretty clear that it's not as cut-and-dry as people want it to be, and that the UCLA performance isn't as much of an indictment of Leal as some people want it to be
Well I disagree... Logan had a QBR in the 40's. Leal's was 4. Not saying Logan is the best, but Leal was far from stellar, and clearly a level below Logan.
I think my issue was always that Logan wasn't where he should be as a R-SR. Almost all of your critiques of Leal, his mechanics, his footwork issues, holding onto the ball too long, inconsistency under pressure. These were all the exact problems with Logan.
I think that is very much the fault of the old coaches...
So, given all that, and the fact that the offense this year was geared around Logan's specific natural talents, it seemed like there was a self-reinforcing bias here. Why is logan starting? Because he gives us the best chance to win. Why? Because he literally *is* the offense. Why? Because we designed the offense around him. Why? Because he's the starter. It's kind of like an Ouiborous of logic here.
Logan was the starter/offense b/c he was a legitimate threat in the run game. Our running backs are not dependable enough to provide balance to our offense by straight up running plays; nearly every rushing play has to have the threat of Logan running. Without the threat of Logan running, our running backs get stuffed easily and our receivers are blanketed by mediocre secondaries.
Awesome picture that Reavis tweeted of our commits at the game
From left to right: Durkin, Sobczak, Billy Ray, Stroman, Reavis, Brady Taylor (Cam Phillips was also there, just not pictured)
We up next. #HokieNation pic.twitter.com/5fDumqf6jH— Cj Reavis (@C_Reavis11) January 6, 2014
All I want to add to this was I was watching from a bar in Alabama that happened to be where an auburn booster club was watching. It was packed, but for some reason it got very quiet at the end of the game.
I would have cheered, but I wanted to get out alive. It was still glorious.
We could put together a much longer video of really great plays Logan made playing QB. What's your point?
I'm sorry, I'm just so tired of every Logan is a TE or should be a TE discussion just pulling up this video and being like, look, he's a TE!!!!!!
Im not sure if people are giving Durkin much of a thought, but in my review of his videos I feel like he is more polished than Ford is at this time. Now that being said I am no expert in reviewing recruit videos and breaking down a qb. But i believe that it will come down to Durkin and Ford as to who our next QB is. French you did a great job again.
I'm surprised how long it took for this to convert to memedom. Well done, hokiejoe
I've never heard of a family getting recognition in a stadium, but I think if there is one family at one school that deserves it more than anyone, it would be the Fullers of VT. Second place, the Suheys of PSU.
Actually, to be honest, the Suheys may deserve it more. They're 4 generations in, but our Fullers have four in one generation.
My point is how do we ask Beamer to make this happen. I guess we'll probably wait until Kendall graduates.
Is there anyone else that would like to see our offense run at a faster pace? I like Loeffler's scheme and game plan, but I feel he allows way to much time for shifting people around, motioning, etc. Not talking about a no huddle, but I feel that the longer the offense takes to snap the ball and wait on motions, the longer we allow the defense to adjust.
Just a thought.