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I've always wondered how much more dominant Bud's defense would appear (statistically) if VT had a complementary offense to go along with it. Bud has consistently fielded a top notch defense for decades and he's done it with no help from the O. I've always thought that our D lost ground in the end of games because of fatigue, and if we could just keep other offenses off the field by running long methodical scoring drives on offense I can't think of any reason why our defense wouldn't rank near or at the top in every statistical category....by a long long margin.
"You are what your record says you are." - Bill Parcells
Like I said, the only way for Tech to get any respect and acknowledgement from the ANALysts is to go out and TAKE IT. And the only way to take it is to fucking win, baby, win.
On that note, what is our record after bye weeks (starting with when Beamer became HC)?
there seems to be a kind of scheme to attack Bud's defense
The best way to beat Bud's defense is to have better players.
Tech had plenty of opportunities to make game changing plays. Tyler tipping the pass on a crossing route could have been an interception, UCLA's first touchdown came when Dadi missed a one on one sack, Facysun had a chance for a pick that hit his hand and bounced to the turf right in front of JR Collins, Fuller had a chance for a pick when he jumped a route but an atrocious throw sent the ball into the turf 6 inches in front of him, countless missed tackles and missed assignments in the perimeter run game... and this is all from the first half. I haven't even rewatched the 2nd half yet.
Foster's scheme has always been high risk high reward. The reward comes from turnovers and TFL. Beamerball calls for the defense to make big, game-changing plays and Foster puts them in a position to do just that. If the players don't make those plays, he looks like an average DC. If they do make those plays, he looks like a genius.
The risk comes from asking your secondary to shut down the passing game without many two safety looks. When the other team has very good WR's and a very good QB, the likelihood that the offense converts those difficult throws improves dramatically. Add in some momentum and the playcalling freedom that a late lead brings, and the odds improve even further.
That's why Foster's defenses have been susceptible to meltdowns in big games. The defense is playing against better talent than they normally would, the defense gets very little help from it's offense (who is also playing against better talent than they normally would) which prevents the defense from resting, and the lack of Tech points also allows the opponents playcalling to become less predictable.
Let's not forget, Foster had the number 4 defense in the country heading into this game despite having zero players who are realistically projected to be 1st or 2nd (maybe even 3rd) round picks. The loss of Kyle Fuller was significant. IF recruiting continues to improve, look for Foster to field devastating units in the future. If he can get a hold of some top notch talent at the LBer position, I think we'll see another number 1 rated defense in Blacksburg.
Ok, Frankie.
I agree with this topic I was furious for the fact he took out a 6-6 QB standing, helmet on helmet contact So what he didn't leave the ground he still managed to hit the head of our giant of our QB on a broken play and cause a concussion. Zumwalt's play in my opinion was not good football. Logan and Coleman both took nasty shots to the head and worst of all the announcers ate it up! We are not the only ones to pay attention to Zumwalt's play though this was brought up in Oregon's chats
http://blog.oregonlive.com/ducks/2013/10/interesting_video_should_ucla.html
While I'm ranting I may have missed it but they showed so much video of UCLA's QB and team wishing happy holidays rather then talk anything about VT. I dunno the game went down hill quickly in the 4th and I will admit I was a bit bitter at the end especially after they had a big lead already then launched the ball downfield for another score I thought Jim Mora had a little more class then that
Wow. If it's so insufferable to be a Hokie fan then just stop being a Hokie fan. Go outside and play or something. I know it's just your opinion, but since you just basically said you wanted Tech to lose enough games to miss a bowl, perhaps your devotion would be better used on another team.
*10-3 after today. Not a bad non conference record. Just have to win 5 in the ACC and they are eligible for the WNIT which looking at the schedule, it is very doable with this roster. Having a point guard this year is what separates them from last year. They are fun to watch for the most part and is a breath of fresh air compared to the headache that is the men's team.
I say move Mr Hodges to a possession wide receiver/tight end.move trey Edmunds to linebacker to where he has a opportunity to go the league because I just don't see him as a dominant running back because he does not have the skill set.Start Marshawn Williams If magnus/Coleman fail to impress and Williams proves better.
Bad luck after bye weeks too.
Yes you are 100% correct. That is another subject of unending frustration among Hokie Nationdom. I am in the camp that feels (strongly) that Beamer has the team underprepared. Of course I'm not there for the practices, but the performance on the field leads strongly in that direction. I also feel that it is best to over prepare for something (an opponent). That way you'll be ready for pretty much anything they dish out. Of the entire coaching staff I (obviously) feel that Foster has his unit best and most prepared.
Replacing a longtime head coach does NOT mean you make the NC game the next year or two. Ask Tennessee.
I caught this too. My buddy watching the game with me reminded me about the contract that network had with SEC and still added it in there during a non-SEC game. Upsetting but nothing we can do about it :(
This is how Zumwalt tackles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzAnK-Ng2Ts
He launched his helmet into Logan's chin. The blow was given a 15 yard penalty by the refs. It was subsequently praised by the announcers. And then, the guy did it again against Coleman later on. The guy is known for cheap shots - he was almost thrown out against Oregon for a hit on Mariota. There's a difference between "hardnosed football" and hits which can cause brain injuries and seriously injure players. He should not be praised.
yeah well he aint on my side so fuck that guy
We live in a deeper youth cultured environment in college ball. Now it's play makers play. 17 or 24. Win or gtfo. We need the mentality. We can't let every college team pass us up.
I'd like to see a 2 deep. Most of the great teams have quality backups, especially on the dline. The wr depth is going to be ridiculous if we hold on to Harrison. I can see Harrison and Phillips getting immediate playing time.
Nearly all would be a better description.
The guys left standing at the end of the game were Gayle, Maddy, Edwards, Fuller#4 and Brandon F.
For impact, you think if Fuller#3 was on the field their QB would have rushed for so many yards? No way. Mark effing May would be crowing about the All American CB instead of making the error of thinking VT is in decline instead of resurgence.
There was lots of effort and flashes of things to come (I really like the big on effort guys like Rogers).
But you can't put the ball in the hands of your playmakers if your playmakers are not on the field.
I think we all know what it was. It was the holiday Christmas party. Even lumdquist mentioned how they could be a bit more light.
The game didn't mean much and I feel it showed on every facet involved. I don't honestly think for a second we are a 30 point dog to UCLA. I think everyone took a day off and a football game happened.
I thought they did a lousy job, you could tell the announcers felt they were calling a second tier game.
I don't, however, have a problem with Zumwalt - the guy plays hardnosed football, much like many of our great players over the years.
I doubt Cline redshirts for a few reasons...
-He and Malleck will provide a great combo for 2-TE sets
-McCray is leaving the team
-If Cline continues to progress he may not stay around Blacksburg for 5 years. Just think of how well he did in a short amount of time (hasn't played football very long)
Our house has gone ESPN silent over the past year and I must say, it makes games much more enjoyable. Over the past few years, ESPN newscasters seem to be anti-VT / ACC to the point of hilariousness and pro SEC to the point of insanity. For example, I find it interesting that 11 ACC teams get in bowls and in 9 of the games, the ACC team is the underdog and the ESPN "experts" act surprised when the ACC goes best case 5 -6 in all bowls. I am giving Clemson an upset vs OSU and FSU a win in the NC. It might be as bad as 3 - 8, although again, I think the ACC wins both BCS games.
I recommend all VT / ACC fans, just dont watch sports center and turn off the volume at halftime during the football games and come to TKP and post or read something of value instead. Go Hokies, 2014 will be a better year with the athletes we are now recruiting and the youngsters we have playing so well. I am sure that during basketball season, it will all be pro ACC now with all the schools added.
this wasnt the sloppiest game ever. it reminded me of some of the games back in the 02-04 seasons.

Logan's Run
The entirety of the Miami game, especially #PunterSwag
Hopkins destroying GT's line, plus Fuller
Tom Savage is still bad
Getting poured on during an OT victory over Marshall
Wearing a kilt to the MD game, with full body paint
Going toe to toe with Bama and feeling pretty good through the first half