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I understand that is sarcasm but, you cannot underestimate coaching and directing individuals that report to you in their duties.
Otherwise, why have a coaches or supervisors.
It is Stiney's first year as coordinator. Loeffler, Grimes and Moorehead (as well as holdovers like Shane, Stiney, and Gray and even Wiles) are killing it on the recruiting trail and deserve tons of credit. Stiney deserves tons of credit for re-framing VTs overall strategy including but not limited to more undergrad days, getting the position coaches and coordinators more in touch with their own recruits, staying on recruits even if they are committed elsewhere, expanding to new areas, etc. For example, handing O'Cain's old area to Loeffler wouldn't have gotten us commits from Ford or Durkin. So Lefty did the heavy lifting on those two but Stiney put him in position to do it. And getting us as far along as we are on 2015 and 2016 is largely due to Stiney. Recruiting needs to be a team effort and at VT it has finally become a team effort.
VT rivals took a real beating after 247 poached their no. 1 hokies source.
that said, stiney did make some changes on how/who recruited where. it's gonna take some time to get back right with the 757, however.
newsome hurt us bad his last 2 yrs there and this yr as well.
Im not against him at all. I think hes a very good recruitor like i said. Hes paved ways in the 757. Just saying that all of our top recruits this yr or most of them have came from Moorehead, SL, and grimes. TG has always done well with dbs. I jus want the new regime here to get the credit they deserve
This is Stiney's first year as the RC, taking over for Cav. I understand where you are coming from in giving the individual coaches credit, but BS had begun to implement a system that greatly expands and re-shuffles recruiting areas (some of which are products of suggestions by the new coaches). I don't quite understand why you are seemingly against giving Stiney any credit... The inroads he has helped create over the years are helping new coaches (unfamiliar with the territory) like Coach Morehead land recruits.
Rivals is most consistant. 247 also has the recruiters who recruited each commitment tech has received also for those of you who use that
rivals? they aren't the same as they were 2 yrs ago.
HAHA true!
Maybe in passing situations? Just speculation, since I haven't taken the time to actually look into that.
Okay, I thought that might be what it was, but they weren't necessarily in it against spread formations. I remember seeing them also use it against a 2 WR, 1 TE set.
Not really trying to defend stinespring here, but isn't this his first year as recruiting coordinator? That would make the argument that our poor recruiting in previous years was his responsibility wrong. That being said, I think the new coaches are terrific in their own right. If stinespring left I don't think there would be a notable drop off in recruiting, but as long as he's coordinating I have no problem giving him a piece of the credit pie. Or cake, whichever he prefers.
That's their nickel alignment against spread formations. It's similar to what Bama did against 3+ WRs.
you should ask for a rebate on your Rivals subscription. Merry Christmas! ~8)
good time in recruiting when guys like us are having semi-heated arguments
of who is responsible for KICKING ASS.
Share the Love!- the formula is working - they all rock!!!
Stiney is in fact the RC and I didn't even know that, but like I said I cant give him credit for the arm work that SL, Grimes, and morehead are doing this yr. But he does recruit the 757 area well. That's his spot. I cant believe were pulling recruits out of PA, Ohio, and DC. Not usually our areas
It's true. Stinespring taught Grimes, Loeffler, Moorehead, and Shane, all of their interpersonal skills which they used to establish a rapport with the recruits. They would have failed without Stinespring. In fact, Stinespring probably had them all wear earpieces while they were talking to the recruits while he was in another room telling them exactly what to say. We should all give more credit to Stinespring for the tremendous recruiting success on the offensive side of the ball over the years.
this did it for me: (along with other ones)
A proud man led them, with a white and grey mane,
It was Fancy Gap Frank, and his little elf Shane!
great Fancy Gap reference!
even the Germans agreed to a cease fire on Christmas!! ~8)
Like I just said, if stinespring was the Recruiting coord then how come we didn't start recruiting other areas til this yr. And if that is the case. Its still the new coaches that are getting in with the kids and developing relationships. So you can say sure he delegated, but he didn't get them there. That was the coaches job and the bonds they made with the players. And im sure stiney didn't train guys how to recruit. Either you have the knack for talking to kids or ya dont
But, that is like saying I'm not responsible for the improvement of the beer at the brewery because I'm not the guy that actually brewed most of them.
A good manager delegates and trains his guys on the job. His guys are assigned areas and all activities coordinated from somewhere.
I am about as good with X's and O's as Mike London is with clock management, so this is a stupid question. But can you explain the defensive set that UCLA is using in third highlight (when Barr gets the strip)? My understanding that in their base 3-4 set, Barr is opposite Miles Jack and there are three interior lineman. In that highlight there are only two interior lineman and Barr is essentially playing defensive end, opposite Marsh. I am re-watching the USC game and I've seen this set used pretty frequently. It looks like USC had some success running against it to Marsh's side, at least early in the game.
Does Melvin Keihn remind anyone else of a young Bruce Smith?
Great post^ Only disagreement I have is that you say stiney is the guy most responsible when he isn't. Each guy is responsible for different areas or regions. New coaches are going to new areas we never recruited before. If stiney was recruiting coord then how come we didn't change up til this yr? Makes zero sense. Everyone knows stiney is the king of the 757. We have expanded our recruiting to a whole new level with the new coaches and its paying off huge dividends for us. We are in on SO MANY guys for 2015. This class is gonna be great but the 2015 class could even surpass what we are doing this yr.
Merry Christmas everyone!