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I agree they're not impressive stats, but when you compare them to Tech, I just thought I'd point that out.
Fair enough, they do play big boy defense in the SEC, but that hasn't stopped Georgia from putting up outstanding rushing totals the past six years:
Georgia
2007 177.23 (37)
2008 148.31 (56)
2009 161.00 (47)
2010 142.62 (73)
2011 164.00 (49)
2012 184.15 (42)
Want to argue Georgia has superior talent to South Carolina? OK - what about a school like Ole Miss? Think they've had a running back half as talented as Marcus Lattimore in the past six seasons? I'd argue no (although the Law Firm was solid), and the Rebels have still been able to run the ball successfully against SEC Ds.
Ole Miss
2007 132.75 (83)
2008 186.23 (28)
2009 184.77 (29)
2010 207.58 (18)
2011 129.17 (84)
2012 169.83 (55)
But you have to remember, those stats were put up in a league that prides itself in defense and has far superior talent on the defense. While the ACC is all about offense.
My thing about Shawn is that I would like to know how much input he actually has in the offense, does he only focus on a very small part of the offense being Co-OC, and if he had full control, would he change schemes compared to what USCe is currently running? These are things the coaches know and we don't.
Of course we would all rather have Pep but I just don't know how likely that is.
Nailed it. Despite Spurrier's reputation as an innovator, South Carolina has used the "my athlete is better than your athlete" approach that that Hokies are famous for has been a staple of USC football. Their approach is simpler, and more effective, than VT's, but they have underperformed even with ELITE college talent like Marcus Lattimore and Alshon Jeffery. I would feel much better about Hamilton and Stanford's staff, especially given Hamilton's success recruiting with limited resources in Virginia.
I wish they would have consulted with Kyle Shanahan or Chris Ault instead of the Texas coaches in the offseason with regards to how to run the pistol. The Redskins have blended the zone read, inside and outside zone, beautiful play action fakes with the pistol for one potent offense.
You guys a reading this all wrong. Seeing D Hall was a cover so they could meet with Shanahan to bring him up speed on recruiting so he can hit the ground running when he comes in as the new OC after the Redskins win the Super Bowl.
One of his scrambles yesterday in the fourth quarter looked just like one of his scrambles in the 2010 ACC championship game against FSU when he eluded their entire defensive line and got a first time.
Beggars can't be choosers, but I'm not in love with the idea of Elliott as OC either. Certainly COULD be better than what VT currently has, but outside of last season, the Gamecock ground game hasn't exactly set the world on fire since Elliott took over "run game coordinator" in 2010. Then again, who knows how input he actually has. I'm sure the Old Ball Coach and his mini me call most of the shots in Columbia.
Rushing Yards-per-game (National Ranking)
VT - USCe
2007 133.64 (82) 113.67 (101)
2008 174.36 (35) 94.08 (113)
2009 208.15 (14) 121.23 (91)
2010 198.71 (23) 154.36 (60)
2011 186.86 (28) 192.08 (26)
2012 145.85 (81) 142.92 (85)
As you can see, South Carolina has only rushed for more YPG than VT once in the past six seasons (2011) - and even then it was negligible.
Yards Per Rush (National Ranking)
VT - USCe
2007 3.34 (101) 3.57 (88)
2008 3.78 (78) 2.93 (110)
2009 4.72 (25) 3.62 (87)
2010 4.88 (23) 4.14 (67)
2011 4.43 (42) 4.52 (36)
2012 3.74 (92) 3.62 (102)
South Carolina did show improvement in yards-per-rush and overall rushing yards in Elliott's first two seasons, but fell back dramatically in 2012.
On a side note - looking at these old stats, Bud deserves a statue outside Lane Stadium for helping that 2007 squad win 11 games and an ACC Championship. Yeesh that offense was horrid.
Has anyone been to Palo Alto? It's awesome, and based on location, I personally would never want to leave.
BUT, it's extremely expensive. $350k/year in Blacksburg is a whole lot more than the same amount in California.
He would also have a chance to define his brand and build equity in a completely differnet market.
However, I think it's extremely unlikely. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Yeah...that's not gonna happen
Its already been documented that he prefers the college game and he's already been a position coach in the nfl. Money money money and close proximity to home .. That's why he would leave
The CoachingSearch article has zero substance. Call me a cynic, but I wouldn't leave Stanford for a lateral move to VT. I don't know why Hamilton would.
Reasons for Hamilton to stay:
1. Does he really get autonomy at VT? What if they keep Stiney? That's not attractive to have the old OC still on staff.
2. Already in a better conference and coaching a better team.
3. If he continues to do well, he could be in line for a HC job in a year or two or even a crack at job in the NFL (positions coach/coordinator).
Comparing the HC at the San Francisco 49ers to the OC position of VT Hokies is a stretch. Hell, LSU couldn't keep Saban from going to the NFL. And if rumors are true, he may leave Alabama to try the NFL again. Chip Kelly may be out of Oregon too.
It was a hell of a catch, too. The defender was all over him and he still pulled it in. His leg got caught up underneath him in an awkward way and I didn't see him on the field for the rest of the game though. Nice to see that Aaron Rodgers trusts Jarrett to make a big catch on 4th down.
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we add both? Hamilton as OC, Elliot as OL coach? That would be sweet....PAC12 and SEC experience in the ACC? What a homerun that would be! (ok, a guy can dream, can't he?)
...are part of our staff for a long time.
....and if we go with Elliot, he would be a big improvement on what we have. He led some impressive Appy St offensives, has developed a great OL at USC and is an excellent recruiter. There is a reason Elliot is a highly sought after assistant in the SE. He turned down the OL job at UF last year.
Either Pep or Elliot would be great hires for VT. Way better than I expected.
Offensive production at USC vs. Stanford cannot be compared. Hamilton has shown at Stanford that he can do much, much more with less through proper coaching and scheming, while USC has arguably under-produced with major talent at WR and HB.
My biggest concern is the athletic department not making the full-court press on a guy like Hamilton. In Elliot and USC, you have a lackluster offense that doesn't score tons of points and rides its defense. We already have that here.
B-bar and Long Bar? Lol that sucks man, but yea good talent there too.
Stiney as Recruiter-in-Chief!
My primary concern now is that Beamer is going to do some kind of patch job and not an overhaul. It's almost as if he's still going to have some hands in the offense and not leave it up to a new offensive coordinator to pick his staff.
And I'm curious to know these sources.
Just because Shane and Stiney went to a Redskins game together to see a former VT player doesn't mean that Stiney will be back (and quite frankly, I'm hoping he will be back, but in a reduced role). Stiney was on the staff when Shane played at Tech and they have also coached together...it's possible that they've actually become friends!
No big deal at all and I don't think you can really read too much into it.
I'm very scared right now. I feel like we're all fooling ourselves with this overhaul and Beamer is gonna do nothing. If that happens that I don't know what I'll do. Alcohol can only do so much.
No one in their right mind thinks this offense is on the right track, but people love to kiss ass in a public outlet (i.e. Facebook, Twitter)