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He had a great chance to go up by 10 points on the road and instead he tries pulling a rabbit out of his ass on a 4th & long.

I no longer have any worries whatsoever about UVA significantly closing the gap on VT as long as Mike London is there. He makes Al Groh look like Bill Bellichik.

im very much #vt4sec, and i hate that the acc is just picking up the pieces from a crumbling big east. like everyone else has said the acc is still the little brother to the sec and more basketball schools doesn't help this at all. there is much more revenue in football. i wish we'd jump ship to the sec but that doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon

Doesn't sound like a "failure" to me.

Yes, Exum has improved significantly and our defense should be good next season. We'll need to replace Bruce Taylor and we need some immediate help in the secondary (For one thing, Kyle Fuller isn't fast enough to be playing CB and needs to be moved to either safety or rover.) But we'll have almost the entire D-line back.

But on offense, as you say, it's a complete mess. I'm not exaggerating when I say that we may well have the single most inept offense in all of Division I football. But I believe that there will indeed be significant coaching changes in the off-season on that side of the ball.

If there aren't, a whole lot of people ... including me ... will not be renewing their season tickets or their Hokie Club dues in protest.

i liked how we had 2nd and 1 twice and ran a qb sneak, without trying anything aggressive. then on 4th and short we go to the shotgun. no i formation, smash them in the mouth - against a team that came in being called soft. cant throw, catch, run or block (pass blocking is decent). i'm not convinced there will be changes, but man do we stink on offense, and we've got some really gifted players.

i'm glad we brought cody journell back so he can fail on the field too.

antone exum has really improved and i'm very happy for him. he's going to be a beast next year, no matter where they put him.

but it might shore up the conference a little. Seems like it's a desperate move so there may be pressures that we don't see. My first choice is to stay in the ACC because of the regional nature of most of the teams. However, if a move has to be made, I would prefer that VT approach the Big 1G.

I would like to see the ACC go after Penn State. They are at rock bottom and could be swayed by the regionalism argument. With Urban Meyer at OSU, they won't have any shot for the next ten years.

The ACC is not at the same level as the SEC. ACC teams get beat like FBS teams beating FCS teams (except when FCS teams play ACC teams). There is no team that the ACC can add to close the GAP between it and the SEC. The ACC doesn't play enough good teams in the ACC to prepare them for a SEC team. The same goes for Clemson. Yesterday was proof of that. Maybe the ACC can move football down a level and focus on Basketball.

I guess the whole academics issue is off the table now if you're gonna add a dumpster fire like Cincy. Seriously, have you dudes been up there? Makes you long for College unforsaken Park, MD. Seems like if its ok to add community colleges, we should have added WVU when we could have. I know its all about TV sets and the Carolina schools wouldn't allow it, but ECU would be a better fit than any of these.

Personally, I'd much rather play UT, UK, Vandy, UGA, NC State and Florida every year then get stuck with Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, Uconn, Cincy, etc. DIDN'T WE LEAVE THE BIG EAST TO GET AWAY FROM THAT GARBAGE?!?

it's fun to make fun of ml and all but the way our d was playing, i dont see them driving the field even with our two minute defense being what it's been this season.

so where will we end up? nashville? memphis? el paso? i kept thinking last night they would announce the bowls tonight because i'm so used to our season ending next week.

The B1G and SEC expands for TV sets, while Swofford adds teams to make basketball the best in the country, and because he has to. This would be horrible for Tech. We want to play football teams in the south, not in Ohio, Connecticut, New York, and Pennsylvania. We want to recruit southern states. Louisville, UConn, and Cincy are all stepping-stone programs (if Strong stays Louisville could argue otherwise), and that travel anywhere from meh–decent. No one would mistake any of the three as football powers.

  1. How does this affect Notre Dame? Wasn't that the longterm play here? How does Notre Dame eventually come into the league as a fulltime member if the ACC already has 16 football schools?
  2. Swofford, start working on an ACC Network now! ESPN will never pay enough for the league to match the side dollars the SEC and B1G are getting from their own networks. Have a focussed expansion plan, stop this "next-best-team-in" thinking. The ACC really is the WCW of college football.

i couldnt believe all the empty seats in the sez. i guess i dont have a ton of room to talk since i didnt go either but damn.

sure being the first 16 team super conference would be big. our orange bowl deal secures the ACC's future in the new playoff system. We are in a good place right now but not a great one.

After watching FSU and Clemson lose to their SEC rivals it was clear that the ACC will always be the younger brother. Rats are jumping off the burning big east ship and boarding the ours.

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To me, the result of this game could have gone either way, but as it's been said - I think we won because our coaches aren't entirely idiotic. The offense started somewhat driving (finally) near the end of the 4th quarter, but not enough to say that we had the upper hand. UVA probably would have moved the ball on their final drive if Rocco hadn't thrown a pick. But, I was baffled at the double icing of the kicker. If London would have called timeouts on the plays prior to the kick, he might have had a minute left on the clock to try to score. But.. he didn't, which was dumb, but good for us.

All in all this game was the same old same old.. shitty offense, great defense. Hopefully change will come around. But as for now, we're goin' BOWLIN' and that's all I care about!

Thanks that is exactly what I meant. I would never want to see us force Beamer to retire it has just shown in his facial expressions/body language/ and comments he says that we might be seeing his last year next year or soon after.

If this is true and the ACC becomes the first 16 team super-conference, it means Swofford is seriously worried about being raided by the other confs and is trying to throw up a firewall to prevent anymore defections.

It will be fascinating to watch and see how the SEC, B1G and the Big-12 respond over the next couple of months. It also means that the ACC is driving a stake into the heart of the Big East that will likely put it down forever as a football conference. Watch the recent western recruits head back to the WAC in no time.

2004 through 2011. 2004 was the start with the loss to NC State. We should of beat Auburn that year in the Sugar Bowl too. That was the game Bud spoke up to Beamer about the Offense and Beamer famously yelled at him "THIS IS MY TEAM BUD." All of the Tyrod Taylor years also. We had great talent during that run, but the vanilla play calls killed our chances during the games we lost in my opinion.

I think dmt meant Beamer would retire. He didn't say forced out. Frank has said, and I'm paraphrasing, he would coach as long as he felt he thought he was still the best man for the job. He would not pull JoePa and coach past his prime.

I doubt he retires this summer, but it's not completely unfounded. Many do think his retirement would come before 2016. We'll see.

But followed it on Twitter. I had a problem with a really bad streaming feed at my in-laws' house, but I was relieved that Hokies won today. Kind of fitting that Journell would be clutch again. He did it in the overtime win over Georgia Tech Bumble Bees, and then did it again today against the Wa-Wa Hoos. Just glad that the Commonwealth Cup stays within the grasp of the Hokies.

The longer the Cup stays with the Hokies, the more they demoralize the Hoos.

Let's go, Hokies! #RISEUPHOKIES

VT played better, but UVA could have easily won with a less inept coach. The fake field goal on 4th & 8 and the terrible use of timeouts are gifts. Really? do you need to freeze the kicker on a 42 yd field goal with the winds blowing harder than Jenna Jameson? Journell's longest converted attempt on the year was 42 yds. And nice job, I'm glad you saved your timeouts to DOUBLE ICE the kicker on a 29 yd field goal from the middle of the field with time expiring.

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