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Sure, but not at this scale that will continue to rise above the craziness we are witnessing today and to levels in which you have eluded to in previous posts (VT's new NIL budget compared to 2024, 2025, and soon to be 2026).

Is it just me or has the "parity" that everyone has asked for made college football worse to watch? Less headliner games and more weird upsets (but too many weird upsets so they aren't even fun or cool anymore). The transfer portal has definitely brought up programs that can afford it, but there are fewer true underdogs because everyone is paying players instead of developing the under-the-radar high school recruits.

I also don't watch NFL, so maybe I just generally don't like it becoming more and more like the NFL.

If I were in Prys shoes, I'd do everything possible to stay in Blacksburg. But I'm bias because I love the area so much

Yeah, be concerned if Quinn stays LB coach. Interestingly, after Marve was fired, Quinn was kept on.

And still wasn't enough to rise to the levels we now expect Franklin to do. Now, Pry would not be as successful as Franklin with the renewed commitment , but if he was funded at a respectable level, I have to believe results would have been better.

ND AD Pete Bevaqua on the exclusion:

While I think ND should have been in and Alabama out, this is the kind of crap that has always made me really dislike ND. Hopefully, this will work to end the ND "affiliation" with the ACC. The conference has filled up a chunk of their schedule since this began, and conferences are moving toward a nine game schedule, so their independent streak may bite them due to this. It might eventually force them into a conference (which likely would not be the ACC, now).

Didn't want to start a new thread and felt this would be a good place to put it. This video came through on one of my YouTube video shorts swipe sessions.

I participated in one of these. It was truly a site to see. We started fighting back in mass on what was once the Prairie with the Cadets leading a hard charge. The combined forces of O'Shag, Lee, and Pritchard pushed the Cadets back to the Upper Quad's Lane Hall. At that point, it was a stalemate. It was an absolute blast. Exhausting, but loads of fun.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/_SUMVZODMAE

I assume you're talking about at Tech and that ODU didn't play PSU. The ONLY time Pry was even a little directly involved with the defense was in Marve's first year. He made a point back then about how he was giving the vision to Marve, then helping him a little as a new coordinator, after which he would be hands' off.

Just because he USED to be a DC does not mean he was acting as DC at Tech. I think he said on a number of occasions that he was relying on his coordinators and that he was trying to embrace the head coach job. Further, he recognized the failures on the defense and he fired Marve and hired a new one.

Just because he wasn't a good HC doesn't mean he wouldn't be a good DC.

Exactly, more evidence to that is a bunch of teams have bowed out of bowls. There are currently several bowls that have no teams! The teams/schools looked at the bowls and said we would lose money to attend with the current ticket allocation requirements therefore we won't attend.

I am as big a ESecPN/Bama hater as there is out there but this year Bama was better schedule and win wise than the other two. Notre Lame made their boat and can sink with the big hole in their hull.

I think the way the tie-breaker worked it would have been Miami

Miami won, Duke won, SMU lost, (if) UVA lost, and NC St. won.

Per the ACC tie-breaker article -
Miami clinches a spot in the championship game with:

  • Win + UVA loss + DUKE loss + SMU win OR
  • Win + SMU loss + DUKE loss + UVA loss + NCSU win OR
  • Win + SMU loss + DUKE loss + UVA loss + UNC win + SYR win OR
  • Win + SMU loss + DUKE loss + UVA loss + UNC win + BC win + Finish higher than GT & SMU in SportSource Analytics ranking OR
  • Win + SMU loss + DUKE loss + UVA win + NCSU win + SYR win OR
  • Win + SMU loss + DUKE loss + UVA win + NCSU win + BC win + Finish higher than GT & SMU in SportSource Analytics ranking OR
  • Win + SMU loss + DUKE win + UVA loss + NCSU win OR
  • Win + SMU win + DUKE win + UVA loss + NCSU win + Finish higher than DUKE in SportSource Analytics ranking

I am giving Franklin the benefit of the doubt, but I would much rather that he appointed Pry as a analysist rather than a specific coach. To me Franklin just piled a bunch of kindling under his new chair before he has coached a game. I really hope his other coach hires hit it out of the park.

Facts, numbers, previous polls, historic examples. The way you prove things.

Not the emotional, Bama sucks. ESPN loves the SEC. SEC bias.

Notre Lame knew what these conferences looked like though and still decided to watch from the couch on Championship Saturday...dont want to play, be prepared to pay.

These are the negatives of being "special" and they got their worst case scenario on the risk assessment.

Has this ever not been the case?

Edit: I'll answer my own question: when the Rose Bowl refused to be part of a playoff. That was bullshit, and also whatever the opposite of a money grab is, but they managed to throw their weight around, delaying the playoff by about a decade.

If you don't pay the right guys, you'll be $#*! outta luck
-Nick Saban

With some of us getting to the golden years ourselves, I know there are others who have gone or are currently going through the loss of a parent. I hope these words, written in a time of deep sorrow, may somehow help another person remember that those who are no longer with us physically will always remain with us in our hearts. And for those who still have one or both of their parents left, please, please don't let a day go by without telling them how much you love them and how much they mean to you.

As I Think About the Journey of Life From Beginning to End (2011)

As I think about the journey of life from beginning to end, it reminds me of a high-wire act in the circus. I don't know exactly how one actually trains for that kind of stuff, but I imagine you might start out by taking baby steps while holding on to someone else's hand. Much the same way as a baby learns to walk and later to ride a bike-initially Mom or Dad holding you upright and preventing you from falling but eventually letting go so you are on your own. But not truly on your own—as they walk or run beside you, ready to catch you if you start to fall. Later, as you grow into young adulthood, they may take you to college (or perhaps the military)—dropping you off that first day to face the world on your own. And yet still, through letters, calls, and visits, they make their presence known. Despite the many miles that may separate you physically, their love and support are tangible. There is an old song my parents used to listen to sung by Foster and Allen called "A Mother's Way":

"A Mother's Way"

It's just a mother's way
To worry through the day
' Bout every little thing
Like falling off a swing
When you are out at play

The years slide quickly by
The Summers seem to fly
And then you move along
You break out on your own
But you don't see her cry

For a while she hides behind a smile
But then her eyes reveal
She worries still today

Take her hand
Show her you understand
A little tenderness will go a long, long way

And now the years have flown
She's sitting all alone
With all her photographs and memories of the past
She's glad when you come home

For a while she hides behind a smile
But then her eyes reveal
She worries still today

Take her hand
Show her you understand
A little tenderness will go a long, long way

For a while she hides behind a smile
But then her eyes reveal
She worries still today

Take her hand
Show her you understand
A little tenderness will go a long, long way
A little tenderness will go a long, long way


I think children can only truly understand this song when they have their own kids. I still remember the only time I saw my mom cry in front of me. It was when my sister and her husband were moving to another state, far away, because of his job. While proud of the independence your kids show, the pride is tinged with sadness knowing that time with them will be less frequent than before. I am at that stage in life as well, as my children reach the age where they are spreading their wings and soaring away from the nest.

I know this is both necessary and a good thing, but it leaves me wondering where the future will take me. My parents were blessed to spend fifty years together before my dad passed away in 2004. That became an especially difficult year for me. I felt not only the grief at that loss but also dealt with the end of my 14-year marriage. As I navigated the difficult shoals of the divorce proceedings, I moved back to the home of my mother, who was alone in her home. This helped me in dealing with financial issues, gave her companionship, and eased the worries of my siblings for her well-being, knowing someone was there with her.

The last six years have been wonderful in that I re-kindled the relationship that had faltered during the years before my dad passed (when we were, unfortunately, infrequent visitors to my parents' home. Having missed the last years of my dad's life, I was determined not to make the same mistake with my mother. In this, I was successful as we both enjoyed the times we spent together playing cards, doing crosswords, and listening to music.

Her eyes grew worse a few years ago, causing her to give up reading for pleasure, which had been one of her favorite pastimes. Still, her health seemed fine. She remained active, enjoying the trips to upstate New York, visiting her familial home and the relatives still living there. Then last fall, she had a stroke and during the hospitalization and follow-up treatment; the doctors discovered a weak heart and terminal lung cancer. They gave us the prognosis of 6-9 months and set out to maximize her enjoyment of the time she had left. The family grew even closer than we already were (well, most of us anyway). Weekend nights became game nights with three generations often playing together while other times my mother would just watch us play, laughing at our antics. We had made plans to have "elephant day" on April 20th where we would travel to the Natural Bridge Zoo and ride the elephants there.

Alas, those plans were not to be fulfilled; the weekend of April 17th was the last we had with her while she was still lucid. I had spent Saturday evening watching John Wayne in "The Quiet Man" (one of her and my dad's favorite movies) and then listening to Christian hymns together until 1:30 in the morning before stumbling off to sleep. I had asked her that night if she feared death, and she told me she was at peace and blessed with all her kids and grandkids. Late Sunday evening, she called my sister to her room and told her she was having trouble breathing and we called the paramedics. She almost died that night in the ER and eventually, a little over a week later in the hospital, she slipped away peacefully, having seemingly waited for some last-minute details to be taken care of before bidding this world farewell.

Those days in the hospital and the following days of making final arrangements were the most difficult I have ever experienced. When my dad died, we still had my mother to lean on for support, and she was a rock for all of us. This time, though, it was just us kids. We had become the older generation struggling to be the support for each other and our own kids, while trying to maintain our own composure, too. The love and support of friends—not only in those last days but over those six months knowing the day would inevitably come—were lifelines to hold on to as the swirling waters of despair threatened to overwhelm me. Even now, just 10 days after the funeral—a time that seems both ancient history and moments ago at the same time — I know they are there for me. I can let myself feel the grief and sadness of the loss without embarrassment and without worrying about being lost there forever. I know the wounds will heal eventually, but the tears and pain are a necessary part of the healing process, too.

I also know that it is OK to feel happy, too. It is not betraying them or their memory to laugh and enjoy the good things that continue to be a part of our lives as well. Life goes on and though, with time, the memories of these past few months will fade; they will not vanish. The influence of parents on their children and grandchildren is immeasurable. Each of us is a product of our experiences and how we react to them, and it is how we were raised by our parents that help to determine the values that we live our lives by, even after they are gone. Though we may not feel their physical presence, they live on in our hearts and within the way we live our lives. Help me as I honor them in everything I do and in my desire to help the next generation remember them as well. May each of us treat each other as we would if they were sitting in the room with us.

That high-wire act I mentioned at the beginning continues. Though it may seem as if I am walking the rope without a net and no apparent means of support; it is an illusion. The reality is: I am surrounded by friends and family who care for me, encouraging me if I stumble and cheering for me when I succeed. And the parents I miss so much are not as far away as they seem... all I have to do is think of them and their prayers lift me up.

I'll close this out with the lyrics to another song my parents listened to Foster and Allen sing-"Between the Two of Them." The song encapsulates the way I will always remember my parents and their relationship with each other—and with me.

"Between the Two of Them"

They married back in forty-two
They were young and love was new
And every day that feeling grew
Between the two of them

When work grew scarce and times got bad
The hope would chase away the sad
And hope was sometimes all they had
Between the two of them

The fifties came and the sixties went
A mortgage now replaced the rent
And they made the most of each day spent
Between the two of them

The children all turned out just fine
Then he retired in eighty-nine
Left with oh so little time
Between the two of them

Today I braved the graveyard rain
And placed a rose between their names
And that's the most that ever came
Between the two of them

Though I miss them both so much
His crooked smile, her gentle touch
And the pleasures of just growing up
Between the two of them

And though I miss them both so much
His crooked smile, her gentle touch
And the pleasures of just growing up
Between the two of them

It is unfortunate. Today, its as simple as "money talks and bullshit walks".

Certainly a common take! I obviously understand what you're saying, but I would also say:

  • Money has always been a significant driver of the sport, but for the first time they put windows on the sausage factory
  • I don't think that money in the sport is necessarily a bad idea. It's pretty obvious that this level of parity is heavily due to NIL/player compensation. You do not get this level of parody in an era where Nick Saban and Kirby smart are able to stockpile blue chip players in their three deep
  • The money grab known as Conference realignment continues to be the biggest destruction of tradition in the sport. But this year we did get to see Pitt versus WVU and Kansas versus Missouri. It sucks that those aren't annual traditions
  • If you return the conferences to their 2010 state, the big 12 has three teams in, the Pac 12 has at least one... Just a much nicer distribution

Agreed. The two biggest factors Pry didn't have was talent and money, which are correlated. VT now has given their HC a huge boost in both categories to allow the new staff to perform better.

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