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Moving to Northern Virginia for my next assignment. Would love to play a round with Joe or any other TKPers up there!

Would appreciate any course recommendations as well ๐Ÿ™โ›ณ

VB born, class of '14

That's definitely doable. What part of NOVA are you moving to?

Solid! Kingstowne/Alexandria. Definitely jealous of all the fairway pics on twitter

VB born, class of '14

Hit me up when you're settled and moved in we will do it up.

I love golf, but I'm not very good. Just good enough to have a good time, I always say.

Been golfing at least twice a week since March. It's my new passion.

Touchdown Tech!!!

I hear you on that. As an extroverted person, it's been an avenue to get outside and interact with other people in a safe (as possible) way.

Bingo. Relatively safe way to hang out with friends, drink some beer, and enjoy the outdoors.

I love golf. It's the perfect amount of satisfying and impossible. I started playing in Nebraska, the course I played had 0 sand, I didn't know how much I'd appreciate that until I moved back to SC. This is a ~145 yard par 3 hole I play frequently here...really makes you focus on hitting the green.

(add if applicable) /s

What did you focus on before trying to hit the green? Cause thats kind of the point of golf. Personally I am for the hole. /s

pin in front, breeze from left, looks like the green slopes right to left. I'd aim 10 feet left of the pin; take a little too much club; open the face and left the ball work toward the pin with the wind and into the slope.

If you need any help getting to golf thread XVI...hit me up, I know a guy.

Leonard. Duh.

Whats your opinion on the new(ish) rule on putting with the flagstick in?

This is guaranteed to be controversial!

Saves time, targeting the biggest issue in golf.

@hokie_rd

Started picking it up the past couple months, just got a new Tour Edge driver, really excited to break it in tomorrow morning

VT '17

I don't play often, usually just a round with the guys on vacation, but my motto is "If you ain't drinkin' you ain't golfing". I believe I drive better when drinking, but have been told it may just be that I care less. It may not be good for my golf score, but it is fun and can lead to some great stories. My golf recommendation is to put 50/50 gin and tonic in a 1 liter sprite bottle with extra lime juice in the freezer a few hours before you play. My other recommendation is that if you share my motto, the best course is an empty course, cause if its crowded and you play that way you may be an ass-hat.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

my wife is in San Diego for the next few weeks, and I got to visit recently and golfed with my BIL. We just played a (very) short Par 3 course - longest hole was like 110 - and it was fantastic. I forgot how much I love par-3 courses. Easy to walk, can basically be played with only a pitching wedge and a putter, just an all-around pleasure. San Diego weather didn't hurt either.

Not the bagman VT deserves, but the bagman VT needs right now.

I live right next to Pendleton in Caroline if anyone is ever trying to go out around there. Their course is really nice right now, they have done a good job.

ESPN. The coverage is excellent, you'd be surprised at how much you can pick up.

I don't post. Long time lurker and just joined TKPers club but a golf thread will draw me out everytime. Just got fitted for the first and prob last set of clubs I'll ever buy. Titleist T100's and there goes my stimulus check. Have had grandpas hand me downs since I was 8. Great clubs but 25+ years old. Heading out to play Pleasant Valley in chantilly tomorrow. One friend invited me and another asked but already had a 4some so going to play 36! New clubs aren't in yet but when they arrive my buddies and I are boating down the Occoquan to Swan Point CC to play and docking overnight To play again next morning. Going to be an epic trip and I can't wait. Would love to get a TKP top golf outing or a small little mini tourney Somewhere if enough people are interested. Cheers!

Jack Bauer fears no one. Except Xavier Adibi.

New clubs aren't in yet but when they arrive my buddies and I are boating down the Occoquan to Swan Point CC to play and docking overnight To play again next morning.

This sounds awesome. May you be blessed with great weather and good spirits.

Leonard. Duh.

Glad you have a reason to interact with the community now, and thanks for joining TKPC!

Great stuff. I just got the T200s. Ordered them in mid March and the Titleist factory in CA was shut down a few days after. Just got them finally 2 weeks ago. Hope you enjoy yours when they arrive.

Great name btw

Wow! That's such a long time. Mine actually came in Sunday the day after I played 36 holes. Go figure. Smh. So 2 weeks. Not too shabby.

Jack Bauer fears no one. Except Xavier Adibi.

Brought the T300's in February. My bag is 100% titleist now- started with the TS 2 driver, which I hit better than any driver I have ever played. The 3 wood and 3 (21) hybrid TS2's fly for miles- love them. I've always been a vokey wedge guy anyway. The 300's replaced Ping I 25's for me- good clubs, but the Titleist long iron's have better launch and forgiveness- which is why I made the switch- the high 200-210 yard shot is not easy on the I 25's. At any rate, great clubs, great custom options. Mine took about a month to come in.

Nice! My bag is on its way to all Titleist. Have the 917D3 driver. TS2 3 wood and 3 hybrid (19). And you're 100% right they fly for miles. I just got the 3 wood since I had an old one I couldn't hit off the fairway. Hit the new 3 wood 270 on a par 5 to get on in two. Now I got the irons and the 50 degree wedge. Prob wait for a new 54 and 60 though (looking at those new Vokey wedges as well). Too much $$$ has fallen out of my wallet for these things past month.

Jack Bauer fears no one. Except Xavier Adibi.

When's the TKP invitational at Castle Rock?๐Ÿ˜‚

It's an illusion
It's all an illusion

What a crazy front 9 over there.

Par 4 that you have to take a 7 iron off the tee on 4 and then a driveable par 4 if you cut the corner to make the turn

I'd be down for this. I actually like that course. Not even average in quality on the best day, but nice scenery and no one is going to give you shit for drinking and goofing off.

Agreed. I feel bad tearing up a manicured course

"If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?"

Our annual golf trip (this year was supposed to be Myrtle) got canned due to Covid. Then one of the guys (lives in Blacksburg) suggested we all crash in his basement for the weekend. We played 18 Friday and Saturday morning at the River Course and then we'd finish up the day the Rock. Felt like going from the first class parties on the Titanic down to the 3rd class throwdowns in the hull lol

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

Hell yeah that's awesome. I much prefer the throw downs myself. They can have the first class parties.

Glad you guys made the best of it.

I've played the River Course! Great experience with my Dad after we drove up for the Rhode Island game last season. I didn't play it very well, but had a great time.

That is one of the toughest courses I've ever played, if not the hardest. It will eat your lunch and take your woman without blinking. I can't tell the story on here, but if there's ever an outing or Lot 18 shindig, I'll tell it. We needed a pick-me-up on the back 9 on Saturday and I'll leave it there.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

Have you played Draper Valley in Pulaski? It's a nice course that won't cost an arm and a leg.

I have not, but I have heard good things about it.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

I am fortunate enough to live on a great course and have my own golf cart. I have play 18 every Friday @ noon, & early on both Saturday and Sunday mornings. Tee off at 7:30-8, & home by 10:30-11:30. I try to play in as many tournaments as I can, but most were cancelled this year.

In addition, a few afternoons a week after work I grab a couple of cold one's & hop out on the course through my back yard & play 6-18 holes by myself. I fish for golf balls off of the island greens on 17 & 18. Peaceful...it's my 'therapy'.

The ability to hop out onto the course whenever sounds awesome. Great opportunity to relax and work on your game. What's in the bag?

Sorry for the delay, I've been busy with my daughter and grandson visiting the past few days, which has been awesome! I have an old set of Titleist irons (5-PW, my 4 was mysteriously misplaced 2 weeks ago by a caddy), old TaylorMade Burner 3, 5 (put back in bag when the 4 iron disappeared), and rescue, relatively new 52 and 56 Vokey wedges, and an old Alien knock-off wedge. A new Titleist TS2 Driver with my Hokie Bird headcover and my VT golf towel hanging from my bag. I have been fitted several times by Titleist and TaylorMade for new irons, but I don't hit any of them better than my old ones. I've won my share of $ with those irons and trust them, and I can be sneakily good out of sand, tall fescue, etc. with that Alien knock-off.

I picked up a SM8 56 and 60 (mid bounce) to replace some older Cleveland wedges and I love them. I'm still rocking a set of Cleveland irons from way back in the day (~2008).

The best thing I ever did for my game was to put my Cleveland 56 and 60 in the closet and pick up some SM6's in 50, 54, and 58. I know it's the Indian not the arrow, but damn if I don't have a ton more confidence in my short game now. The fact that I got them close to mint on eBay for a steal of a deal made it even better.

Amen to that. I use a 52/54ish wedge for about 50% of my shots and nearly all of my shots around the green. Incredible useless with my 60 except out of a bunker.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

We briefly chatted on another thread earlier in the week...if I make it to the Cape next summer (likely) l'll be sure to bring my clubs for a noon friday...I'm anywhere from a 10 to 20 handicap depending on the day. My go to is Captain's in Brewster and bizarrely have been paired up with another Hokie on two occasions (out of about 8 rounds! Small world)...you're in sandwich, right?

Yes, bring your sticks next time, I'd love to have you out. I live in The Ridge Club in Sandwich. Look it up, it's a great, challenging track. There's a lot of pictures of the course on the Ridge's Facebook page.

There's a couple of other Hokie members here as well.

Here's a question for debate. I got a hole-in-one (my first) on the Cradle (par 3 course) at Pinehurst back in June. Shortest hole on the course at 55 yards. Is this a real hole-in-one? I don't feel like it is.

Also played #4 and #8 while I was there. Great tracks. #4 is a top 5 track that I have played. Pinehurst is a must do for a boys golf trip.

No, and I'll tell you why. Putt-Putt technically isn't considered golf.

I'd probably claim it though. I've chipped in from > 55 yards at least twice in my career and you'd have thought I won the Masters.

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

A chip in from over 55 yards would make any PGA Tour player's day, you are right to celebrate.

It definitely counts but I agree that shot is way easier to hole than anything over 100.

I chipped in from 70 for my first eagle a couple months ago. It feels great, but I can't imagine holing anything off of a full swing.

Don't listen to these rubes who haven't played the Cradle. That definitely counts with the wild stuff they did on those greens. Which hole?

#6. The Cradle is a blast for every skill level.

Until I get an ace during a round of 18 it will feel incomplete.

#445 right here!

I'd go consecutive hole-in-one. Doing a time trial to see how fast I could play it would be fun.

Nobody's even attempted the "Fastest Round of Golf 10 Person Relay"? Guess it's hard to get a group of 10 together, this seems like a super random category

Some of those names sound made up...Baxter Poe?

This is a pretty cool idea though, kind of like the Par 3 course at Augusta

Nice, that's my favorite hole on the Cradle. Good for you!

Love golf. Grew up playing in NOVA, and played club at Tech. Moved to Alabama a couple years ago and has really improved my game (less traffic, better players, more time to practice). Got down to a +2 and just won my club championship! If anyone here ever makes there way down to Southern Tennessee/Northern AL, definitely reach out for recommendations in the area!

ME Class of '16
VA --> AL
I'd rather be golfing.

I love to play golf. I just don't have enough time to play as often as needed to be consistent.

I spent a full week with a golf pro. He'd watch and coach me for 36 holes/day. It was awesome, I was starting to get good. Understanding what I was doing wrong and correcting it. Apparently having a "baseball swing" isn't good for golf. The next week he called and gave some great advice that has stuck with me for years.

"Take 2 weeks off. Then quit."

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

If anyone plays in the Triangle it'd be great to get a group out there sometime. After this weather straightens out of course

Similar to someone above, I've been playing multiple times a week since early March.

I'm a member at the Country Club of Fairfax. I'd love to have anyone out that wants to join me!

Of course I talk to myself, sometimes I need expert advice.

Did 54 holes last weekend down in the Culpepper area (Meadows Farm) with some buddies. I'm an 11 handicap trying to get it under 10 for the first time since college. Golf is the only thing keeping me sane right now. The flex work schedule definitely has its perks.

"What are you going to do, stab me? - Quote from Man Stabbed

Just got word that my grad school classes will be online for at least the first month or so.

So.... lots of golf will be played.

Now this is a thread!!!!
Some of you might know, but my profile pic is from the 18th at St. Andrews. Yes, I wore those pants. And the caddie from a few days prior loved em!!! I know it's not a fantastic course, but the history there is unreal. If you get a chance to go, do it. And the town is even better than you could ever imagine. The guy that owns the Dunvegan Inn, Jack, is a huge Texas football guy. Even has a helmet above the bar. Needless to say, they welcome us Americans in there. (And the R&A too...I'll see if I posted the story before.)

Anyway, I'm lucky and unlucky enough to live in the OC golf area. Lucky that we have options. Unlucky that rarely do we get a break on rates. Bayside can be over $225 per round. Lighthouse is pushing $225 at prime time. Peninsula, forget about getting in the gate. Rum Pointe, pushing $200. It's a struggle. We do have a solid group at Nutters Crossing, and since it's a Ruark course, we do get scooby snacks at Lighthouse, Rum Pointe, and GlenRiddle for $35-45. Not too bad. And Nutters Greens are the best on the shore right now.

They had a tournament a few weekends ago so we slid up to Worthington Manor near Fredneck. If you haven't been, do it!!!! Fantastic course. Solid. In front of you nearly the enitre way around. Birdied 18 for a 79. (Backed it up last weekend with a 75! Two best rounds for a while for sure.)

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Here's a link to some St. Andrews stuff, and it has a link to my blog about that trip in it as well...
Links

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

What are you talking about not a fantastic course. It is great to watch golf at. You can see multiple holes and tees at the same time. And its much better place for watching tournaments than anywhere in the US. The rules are much more relaxed.

Mean to play. You have to pick a point and swing at it. You don't really see the hole. Trust me, I loved every minute of it, but it's not something some people will enjoy. It doesn't stick out like pebble w the ocean, or primland in the mountains, or tobacco road. It's hard to remember many of the holes in the middle of the round.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Primland is amazing. I need to replay Tobacco Road though...only time I've been there we had hurricane type winds, it was brutal.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

Leg for having the balls to wear those pants at St. Andrews...I don't have that courage

I played a lot last summer after work since it was less than 10 dollars for twilight round at a NOVA parks course and we could usually fit in 12-16 holes. Just moved near another public course in Nova that I want to try out. It looks like it's in decent shape.

When you get a chance, come play the new Birdwood in Cville.

I was there today and a young lady Hokie with her hat, shirt and bag was getting a lesson and I joked with the guy giving her a lesson and he said he was a Hokie too. I told him there are a lot of us around, somebody has to know how to do something in this town.

It's a spectacular course. 6-hole par 3 course opening this fall as well. 18-hole putting course open next to the clubhouse to play with a beer.

More beautiful pics here

Had a series of conferences down there but never got to play. Looked fantastic a decade again. Can imagine is even better w the reno's.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Did they keep anything from the old set up with the renovation? I've been meaning to get over there and play this summer but it hasn't worked out.

Old holes #1, 2, 9, 13 and 18 are pretty similar. But not much else. The land between old #2 and old #13 is now six new holes. The finishing holes are now in the north east corner of the property, going past the Birdwood Mansion (in pic above). DL3 liked this section specifically and weighed in on the closing four. 16 is a driveable par 4, 17 is a Redan style par 3 next to the pond and 18 is the old #9 but about 75 yards longer (read: no birdies). It's a good finish. But I keep getting rained out before I get to the back.

Started one summer home from college then pretty much stopped once I graduated. The place I work for now typically does a Captains Choice tournament at Ashley Plantation for its fundraiser (this year is cancelled unfortunately), so I started back up and have been playing with co-workers every other week or every week depending on the weather since October. We typically rotate through Hanging Rock, Ole Monterey, Botetourt G&SC, and Blue Hills. My clubs are constantly in the car, you never know when you can sneak in a quick 9.

I have been playing since I was 10 and pretty consistent since my game hasn't changed since then haha. I grew up near VT so I remember playing the River Course when it had only 9 holes open. I helped work on Auburn Hills went it was being built also since it was the home course for my high school. In high school we would play at the old VT course and hustle some of the students who had decided to take up the game. Now play on a regular basis around Atlanta. Fox Creek and Legacy are fun executive courses to sneak out of work and play a quick round. Stone Mountain has a really nice course also.

VTMidge

I am about a 25 handicap and love every second. I dont play as often as I like. Been on a few Myrtle golf trips with big enough groups to play competitive captain choice, they practically pay you.

"If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?"

I didn't pick up clubs for a long time, but in the past year or two have gotten back in it. My wife's family is outside of St. Louis on the Illinois side. Lots of long, flat tracks out here. Pretty much just mow down a little bit of cornfield and put in 18 holes.

Anyone else watching the golf restart? Anyone else look forward to seeing how Bryson DeChambeau is gonna melt down from week to week? I don't hate the guy or anything like many golf fans, he just comes up with really creative ways to throw away tournaments.

I'd also be interested in a WITB (what's in the bag) section here. I don't play with anything special. Just some 8 year old Rocketbladez, Vokey wedges and a 10 year old Aeroburner driver. M2 3-wood. I got all of it secondhand but it's treated me well.

Re: DeChambeau...being a math/physics guy i respect bryson's approach to the game...but he is such a little beyotch. That 10 he carded two weeks ago was pretty fun to watch. I actually root against him now. I'm a big justin Thomas fan, as well as any hokie but they are all crap now.

We should do a meet and greet at the schoolhouse 9 when we can gather again!

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Started doing team play about a month ago on Wednesday nights at Forest Park CC in Martinsville. It's not Augusta, but they have made major improvements over the last year or two. It's a blast and I'm up about $300 lol

Playing Greensboro National tomorrow morning earrrrly to try and beat the heat.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

Played Forest Park in a fundraiser last year. It rained from about our 3rd hole to about the 14th. Still came away with the impression that it is a decent course. Hope to play there again this year.

2-3 years ago I had just about wrote off the old course. Membership is on the uptick, course is looking great...very, very happy with how the club is making a comeback. The area needs a place like that. Still have Chatmoss, but this is certainly the more "average joe" kinda joint, but not shitty...idk how else to say it lol

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

I actually won a free round from the tournament I was in, but I'm never really in town long enough to get 18 in. I've played 9 at willow creek a handful of times. Have you played Beaver Hills? I've heard Chatmoss is pretty nice, but haven't been out that way.

Haven't played Beaver Hills in 4-5yrs probably...was in pretty bad shape, but seems like they keep a decent crowd over there so they're doing something right, I guess. And I haven't played Chatmoss in probably 15-17yrs lol it's private, sooo yeah.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

Apparently they got bought in January and it looks like the new owners are trying to get it in better shape.
Yeah, the only people I know that have played Chatmoss, did so because of charity tournaments. Looks like I'll be getting to play Forest Park in September, so hopefully the weather cooperates this time.

I grew up playing that course in the late 70's and 80's. It was also my HS's home course. Haven't played there in probably 10 years (it had just gone public the last time I played there.) Glad to hear its doing ok. I know it almost closed a few years back. Back in the day, my dad and I used to be able to walk 18 on a Saturday morning in less than 3 hours. Makes playing public courses today extremely painful (and one of the reasons I don't play much anymore.)

Played Forest Park today with pops and brother. Pleasantly surprised by how busy they were. Took us three hours to play 9. That time may or may not include looking for a multitude of lost balls.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

The very first time I played in a company golf outing, I swung, and completely missed. I was looking around for my ball, while my co-workers laughed hysterically.

Fast forward to last year, first golf outing with new company, got some customers with me. Swing and a miss. 2x.

I frequent Top Golf and Drive Shack in Richmond.

First time I ever played was at The Foundry in Powhatan. Beautiful course. Absolutely gorgeous. Most recently hit Magnolia Green, nice course, but some holes are working around construction still.

TKPhi Damn Proud
BSME 2009

If we get another stimulus check, I may help the economy by purchasing a set of clubs. I haven't played a round in 6 or 7 years and I am really awful, but my neighbors have been going out and I'm itching to get some lessons and finally get back out there.

I learned in the Army, I play each hole left, left, left, right, left.

I can hit it a long way, but usually they land on another fairway. See all you suckers are out there trying to get in as few strokes as possible, I am getting my money's worth!

I don't golf as much as I like and would probably shave 10 strokes with a single lesson since I have become pretty deadly inside 60 yards and much better with my irons, just need to figure out why I hit my 3W better than the driver.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

Seasonal Brew means High ABV for football season and standard the rest of the year.

Try a 12* driver. Not all swings are equal, and not everyone hits the ball the same. I know guys that have high lift drivers that hit it past the low loft guys on the reg. Worth a shot...

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

My wife wants to get into golf, but I am trying to do some fun things to lessen the struggle of starting out (top golf, par 3 courses, etc.).

Anyone know places that aren't more than a 3-4 hour drive away from Blacksburg that has night golf (lighted course or with glow balls)?

Waynesboro has a par 3 course that does glow golf on weekends

Shields Par 3.

Perfect! Thank you!

Played on my HS team in 4th position. I was better than shit but long way from good. Used to play a lot until I moved to China.

last time I played was maybe 15 years ago with Gary Player for 3 holes on a golf course he designed in a project I designed. He was nice enough to let a few mulligans to be taken and give some pointers.

I hate you. (Translates to: "I'm very jealous of that experience you had.")

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

It was definitely cool playing with him but my ultimate partner would be Mr Skins Freddie Couples. I always fashioned myself a feel player and I never wore a glove. Apparently there was more to it than that to be a good feel player though, hahaha

he lives in Newport Beach now and a friend of mine's business partner plays with him sometimes so I have thought about pushing to join them. I just gotta get my game up (A LOT) so I don't completely embarrass myself.

So envious...Fred Couples is my all-time favorite golfer

The soccer thread thing was about my life story and someone (GGC?) replied it was up there with yours, and after reading some of your posts, I'm not even close. Like I said, a tangent.

yeah... me too. I couldn't imagine playing with him and sucking as much as I know I would. Loved watching him play on tv when I was young though.

Freddie's story about the glove is pretty sweet. (From Feherty's show.)

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

I was told on the soccer thread that you're a legend (long story that only tangentially relates to you personally) and this story does not disappoint...tip of the Stetson to you, good sir.

I was mentioned on a soccer thread?

last time I played was maybe 15 years ago with Gary Player for 3 holes on a golf course he designed in a project I designed.

This is quite on-brand.

Did he make you do sit ups? :)

hahaha.... no but that would have been hilarious. I wish that happened

Tech course will not be torn up. I have a long story from talking to guy who runs it, when i get back to my computer, I'll share. Hes trying to get more money to improve it. Greens are in great shape there right now.
I hit the cox range twice a week and use the tech putting greens for chipping practice weekly as well. I've dropped 5 strokes off my game this year, now in mid 80s. It takes work, and the details matter. Love the outdoor relaxation i get w a round. Hit em straight, fellow Hokies.

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

The "on campus and already lost 9 holes and is the location for campus expansion in the master plan" Tech course isn't getting torn up? Hmm, interesting. Looking forward to reading more.

Here is the story. 1st, the Tech Master Plan assumed that there was water, sewer, and electrical infrastructure that the Master Plan could leverage for the building plans out that way. None of it is in place (just golf course sprinkler system). The cost for that to be added was estimated to be $1.9B (Yes, with a B). So, that was a HUGE screwed up assumption that should have been checked first.
2nd, apparently, the funding for the Tech Master Plan was 50% state funded as long as Tech got the rest of the funding. That didn't happen by the required date, so the state pulled the funding.
So, the VT course is staying put for at least several years. They have requested funding to improve the fairways and improve maintenance. The course indeed looks and plays much better than it did last Fall. The greens are in great shape. The grass they use on them isn't championship grade because they get a lot of students playing that don't play much golf. But they roll very good (though slow) and are very consistent across the entire course.
Bottom Line, The VT Course lives on!

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

What kind of water and sewer were they trying to put out there? BILLION? They have it at the greek housing out there. It's across the street. Only thing I can imagine is they want it looped, connecting with the other side of 64 which brings boring and pump stations into play...but that's a lot of cabbage.

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

Not my expertise, but that is the number he mentioned. My jaw dropped. I can't answer your question, but you may be correct.
I feel pretty certain the greek housing feeds can't support that and the rest of what they were planning for that entire quadrant out that way.

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

No, they can't, but they have infrastructure. The water could be looped with what they have...and it's not even in the 8 figures at that point. The sewer is the bigger problem. But a pump station and force main isn't into the 9 figure range. (Assume some of it is coming from the "relationship" Blacksburg and VT have in the sewer department........)

To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

I remember playing the campus course as a full 18 when I was looking at what school to go to. Was sad when the front nine was lost for the Inn but the river course is a gem. Also enjoyed playing Draper Valley down there when I was in school. I've been lucky since leaving school to work at places that had golf courses and have been able to play great courses for free.

Stick it in...Stick it in...Stick it in

Draper Valley has such a nice back drop. I'd like to play there again.

My favorite course in the NRV. Doesn't hurt the wallet, wide open (cause I'm gonna send it that's why), and not too far from cburg.

Played Draper Valley on a Saturday in June. Senior rate of $35 and replayed 9 holes for $12. The course was in great shape. It is a great value.

Draper valley is nice. Since its a Yamaha cart course, the free Yamatracks app works there. That app is great. Its works at The Hill also. I used it at Royal New Kent, it saved my @ss there.

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

I also enjoyed Castle Rock in Pembroke. Decent course for a low rate!

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Should I start a disc golf thread for the objectively superior sport?

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I'm very oblivious to disc golf but some of the local courses around here have the disc golf out on the same area (Pendleton), and it's fun to watch them. They have to yield to all golfers in most cases so you get to watch when they get stuck behind you. Some of those throws are crazy. I want to play.

ESPN. The coverage is excellent, you'd be surprised at how much you can pick up.

Yes absolutely. As a ball golf convert, I thought it was a fun and cheaper alternative until I realized I had purchased about 50 discs in the last 18 months.

still cheaper

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For everyone who wants to check out the objectively superior sport. Tonight (and the next three nights) are your chance on CBS Sports Network. Watch a little bit of the best players in the world play. (Disclaimer: This is a taped tournament from about two months ago)

OK...here's a question:

How many PGA Tour courses have you played (they don't have to be current PGA venues)?

I've played:

The Plantation Course at Kapalua in Maui (though the Bay Course is far superior in my opinion)
Torrey Pines South in San Diego (shot an 88 which I was elated to score because that course is TOUGH)
The Ritz Carlton at Dove Mountain (former site of the Accenture Match Play)

half point for playing Starr Pass and Tucson National (former courses for the now defunct Tucson Open-though the latter does host the Cologuard Classic on the Champions Tour). I only give myself a half point because these are a short drive for me

Have only played Web.com and Senior Tour courses - TPC Wakefield, Prestonwood, Sandals Emerald Bay Golf Course (fav course i've ever played). Unless, of course, you count this.

Played TPC Ponte Vedra in the mid 80's while visiting family in Jacksonville. Played 36 that day. Biggest memories, took double bogey on 17 after one hopping a ball in the water. Parred it the second round. Almost hit 16 in 2, just off the green, made par. Standing on the 18th tee wondering how the hell am I going to hit this fairway. I didn't, bailed out to the right.

Hello new golfing friend in the 919 area code.

Always down to play. Usually try to get out once a week but it's tough with a 9 month old baby.

TPC Potomac at Avenel

Mystic Rock at Nemacolin

Mauna Lani south- former senior skins course
Old White TPC- Greenbrier Classic
Greenbrier Course- 1979 Ryder Cup
Kingsmill River Course- michelob championship
Wachesaw Plantation East- LPGA
Disney Magnolia

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TPC Myrtle: Senior Tour Championship in 2000...it counts in my book.

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TPC Scottsdale
Atunyote in NY
Playing Pinehurst #2 this fall

Nice!

Torrey Pines South in San Diego (shot an 88

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Pebble Beach (and all the other Pebble Beach owned courses)
Seminole (technically not a tour course, but they did just do that thing with Rory, DJ, Rickie, and Matt Wolf)
TPC Harding Park
Cypress Point (not on the tour, I'm just being a jerk and bragging) ;)

Kapalua, Avenel, Congressional blue, Whistling Straits, TPC Sawgrass, TPC River Highlands, Black Wolf Run, Hobbit's Glen (sr tour event), TPC Sumerlin, Pinehurst #2, TPC Scottsdale, Kingmill river, and Golden Horseshoe- tour played there in the 80s? I think. There may be a couple others.

Oak Hill East course. Amazing course with so much history. Watched Strange win his second open in a row there, and a very frustrating Ryder Cup. Playing with a setup that isn't nearly is difficult as it was for those two events really makes you see how good those guys are.

TPC Scottsdale
TPC Boston
TPC Twin Cities (Sr PGA)
Hazeltine (tough, tough course)
Chaska Town Course (U.S. Amateur)
Disney
Torrey Pines
Starr Pass
Hobbits Glen (had no idea it had hosted a PGA event until dcwilson posted)
Old Corkscrew (I believe it hosted a Senior event, just a tough course)

-Hobbit's Glen-see above
-University of Maryland (Web.com tour was there.)
-half point for Lighthouse Sound...St Josephs Challenge hosted by David Feherty. (Walked 3 holes shoulder to shoulder with him for this.) https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-2006-05-13-0605130106-story.html
-half point for Primland...hosted the Tavistock Cup.
-half point for Worthington Manor...hosted the MD Open and annual US Open qualifiers.
-Kingsbarns and St Andrews Old Course in Scotland.
-Ballybunion and Adare Manor in Ireland

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Big Leagues - Pebble Beach, Spyglass Hill, Oakmont, Carnoustie

Smaller tours - Stonehenge CC and the Dominion Club in Richmond hosted the Buy.com Tour and CCV River hosts the Champion's Tour now. Also Kingsmill River (LPGA) and Golden Horseshoe

Have been swinging a club for awhile but started taking golf serious for the past 2 years. Went from a 17 handicap down to a 10. Here's one of my favorite photos from Sedona golf resort.

Nice...if you get a chance play Oak Creek Country Club nearby, equally amazing course with similar views (though not as good as this one)

I've been wanting to get out there. The wives parents live up in Sedona (we live in Scottsdale). Every time I try to book a tee time at Oak creek all the early times are taken and it's frowned upon to golf late when we are visiting the in laws.

One of my favorite courses on earth. Awesome.

Beautiful. Played there years ago

Yeah, the bear in my photo is holding a golf club. Played since age 10 (starting with five years in Bangkok Thailand at the International Sports Club), one year in Switzerland on the school's golf team(my folks were in Nigeria and yes, I played there too - SAND greens!!! although we called them browns) , central florida (Clermont - oh did I love Howie in the Hills) and Tech while at school. Then 38 years in NoVa living in Sterling and Great Falls, mostly Algonkian and Bethesda CC but tons of the area courses plus many trips to Myrtle. Retired in 08, live in Vonore TN in Tellico Village, play six days a week in groups. Trips to many places, often to Hilton Head since one of our guys owns a condo (three courses on the shore), Stone Mountain, two trips to play the River Course, Draper Valley, etc. Heck, I live on the fifth tee of one of the three courses in our community. If that ain't died in the wool golfer.....

The LewDew, Professional Golf Bum

I am infamous for my photo upload fails, but here goes, from the early 60s (thats the year, not my score) I am on the far right, youngest player on the team, picture taken at the Royal Bangkok Sports Club.

The LewDew, Professional Golf Bum

"The members of the ISB Golf Club pose with their weapons."

What a great caption and photo. Thanks for sharing.

how many jokes did you get about your last name being Butts?

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I just moved near algonkian and want to find time to play it after running by it quite often. I've enjoyed most of the NOVA parks courses I've played so far.

Since PGA isn't having fans, I'd love to see them play tournaments at a few courses they normally can't due to accessibility or lack of infrastructure.

Id love to see them go to Bandon or play a course like Primland which is my favorite course.

Fucking Primland, yes.

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Would love to see tournaments played at different courses....but it all comes down to money and sponsors. When the Greenbrier had the horrific floods a few years back and couldn't afford $10m to have the tournament after the tournament was cancelled, the PGA allowed them to take two payments to cover it. But because they had to do that they lost their 4th of July week and were forced to move to the fall. Now they have no tournament because it didn't make financial sense after it was moved to the fall.

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Here's to hoping the Primat's would care to foot that bill ๐Ÿคž

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Euro tour is playing some lesser known resort courses. It's been fun to watch.

Just joined a club last fall - good timing. The wife of the pro works where I do, and she secured an incredible deal for us to join. About 10 of us did. Its great being able to play just about any time I want. Never been one to shoot the lights out, but I do have my moments. Course was designed by Nicklaus - the 18th hole in the picture is a challenge.

This is definitely a thread I can get behind...created an account just so I can post. Always looking for people to play golf with in the Richmond area. Don't get to play as much as I want with two young kids, but I'm always up to play a round and throw back some brews

Anyone played Kinloch? That one is high on my list of places I'd like to play.

Played it in 2006, so it could've changed since then. My dad worked with a member who got us on. Probably not the best layout you'll ever play but likely the best conditioned course you'll ever play. I remember it being rated above Augusta National in condition in one of the gold magazines. Feels like you're playing on tour out there. The fairways looked like greens and the rough was brutal. Definitely worth it if someone can get you on.

What are some other courses on your list of wanting to play?

Id like to hit all of the top 100 over my lifetime. Some notable courses would be:

Cabot Cliffs
Pebble Beach
Chambers Bay
All of Bandon Dunes
Wisconsin trip (whistling straights, Erin hills, and sand valley)
Bethpage Black
Friar's Club

I have passes to Sawgrass that I bought at Christmas for a planned trip in April but that was all thrown out the window cause ya know 2020 socks.

Nice! Pebble Beach is awfully pricey but it lives up to the hype. If you make it out there I'd throw in Spyglass as well. The first 5 holes out there are unlike anywhere I've ever been in the world. Like a fairy tale. It probably helped that it was misty that morning and we were the only one's on the course except for some deer.

My cousin works there and plays all the time. He's seen several high profile celebrities. Seems like a pretty cool place. Even knowing someone there I doubt if I will ever play it. I probably can't afford it even if I could get on.

Long time (35 years) 20 handicap golfer here who needs community help - I havent been able to play for almost a year, first because of kidney and lymph node cancer surgery last april where my abdomen was opened up fully from side to side and then follow up surgery in December to fix flank hernias which occured on each side. Those have healed to where my abdomen is ok, but the chemo pills i take to combat the last bit of metastis cause a side effect called hand and foot syndrome where I easily get really painful sores on the inside creases of my finger joints if I dont protect them really well when i do any kind of 'work' with my hands which involves gripping or grasping. Have any of you ever used a padded golf glove? I see one one made by Bionic called 'reliefgrip' that looks promising. Anyone have any experience with those or any other options? Thanks in advance.

My wife takes the kids and leaves the house while I watch my Hokie games.........nuff said

I use those Bionic gloves and love them. Good grip and the padding is nice (feels like you don't have to grip as strong). They also make yard gloves and stuff that are equally amazing.

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Thanks man - do the padding strips on the fingers line up with the joint creases in your fingers or in between the joints?

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In the crease. The feel great and if you have arthritis, they are life savers. I used to just used the for big dog off the tee, but have gone to every shot with them. It was a thought of not gripping too tight as well as flipping the right hand over. Now, it allows me to just pull the club thru, and swing ok.

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Thanks for the intel brother....i'm gonna pull the trigger on these and hopefully they will do the trick to protect my hands. Will let you know how i make out after ive had a chance to use them then see the reaction in my hands after a couple of days. Thanks again!

My wife takes the kids and leaves the house while I watch my Hokie games.........nuff said

Any tips on getting your kids started with the game? My son, 9 about to turn 10, is interested and was recently gifted a set of youth clubs that fit him well. But I don't really know where to start other than with putting and chipping. Any thoughts?

Play par 3 executive courses w him. 9 holes so he stays focused. And maybe a group lesson or small camp (2 day, stay at home style) nearby.

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Thanks, that sounds like a reasonable approach. Probably will need to wait for 2021 for a camp, but I'll start looking for a par 3 course nearby.

Putting and chipping is the way to start. Puts the focus on proper club path, making good contact, no more than half swings. I think its helpful for young kids because there is a clear target that provides proper feedback and is easy to make a game out of. Driving range turns into swinging as hard as possible to see how far you can hit it. This is still true for me ha.

This is a good idea as well.
I also agree w a lesson if u can find an affordable one.

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Well we just got back from the Hill. We just putted and chipped for an hour or so. He really enjoyed it. He's a natural putting but chipping will take a few more lessons. But he had a smile the whole time so I'm happy.

Glad I'm not playing today. The wind here is insane.

The practice bunker at the chipping green at the hill is choice. The chipping and putting practice set up at the tech course is good as well.

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Where is the practice green with a bunker? We went to the putting green right by the clubhouse but I didn't see a bunker.

Good to know about the clinic. I'll keep my eyes peeled for the next one.

Edit: I think I found it. Behind the cart garage. I didn't even there was practice area back there.

You found it, its behind the first tee.

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Also, i didnt know u were local (im in cburg). The hill did a jr clinic camp just a few weeks ago. I played there a couple days while it was going on.

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Lessons was how I got started when I was little. Allows them to get comfortable without getting too upset when not hitting well.

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Above all else, make it fun for him. And honestly, this may sting, that may or may not include you. I started around 8-9 and would play all summer long w my dad. Until 14 or so, then it was a turnoff. Be prepared for that. Don't box him in to norms...let him make double. (at the end of the day, golf balls are cheap.) Don't MAKE him him iron off the tee on a par 4. Let him dump it in the water going for it. Maybe go over it on the car ride home, but let him figure out how strengths. If he's off the green, "I'll get you a coke or whatever" at the turn of you get this up and down. Let him figure it. It's a unique game, with all sorts of approaches. He doesn't HAVE to play it just one way. And enjoy the ride. It's glorious. It's frustrating. It's fun. It's you and your son bonding.

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Based on personal experience, individual lessons are the way to go. My six-year-old loves doing them. It's been a great thing for us to do together too.

Sitting around, drinking beer after our round yesterday, and we came up with an idea that would be awesome when we can go out and about again...a tour of Virginia. We'd be coming down the peninsula, so first stop: Royal New Kent. Then on to Richmond, hit Veil and Triple Crossing. My buddy has a cousin in town, so crash with him. Then try for Kinloch the next day. Go back to his house for grilling. Then maybe hit Full Cry or Birdwood on the way to Blacksburg. Play the River Course. Get immersed in the town for a day to rest up. Maybe shoot for Primland, or see if we could pulll some strings for either Olde Farm or the Virginian down in Bristol. Hit Ballyhack in Roanoke, then hit the Schoolhouse 9 as a cherry on top on our way home. That would be 7 of the top courses in the state, don't have to leave the state, no more than 3 hours drive at a time (maybe....) hit some good food and breweries on the loop, and don't have to fly to get jet lagged to Ireland or Scotland.

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Nice plan. Can you get onto Ballyhack? I thought it was membership only (I think there's an extended region/national membership it's a part of). Maybe someone in your group has that.

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It's ClubCorp...so I might be able to swing something. Kinloch is tougher, but we have a member at Willow Oak helping out along the way. Ballyhack is a Lester George, just like Ocean City Newport Bay, so might have a way with the pro at OC. I know it's an aggressive schedule...but Ballyhack is the one I'd truly want to play out of all of them. That might be clouding my judgement.

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I understand the focus of your desire. Royal New Kent is awesome as well. Heck, your entire list is great! I'm envious. Hope it comes together for you.

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I mean, hopping in a car with some buddies for that trip, collecting extras for another foursome along the way at various courses, it's cheaper than overseas. And RNK is similar to being in Ireland. Ballyhack isn't anything we get at the beach. Birdwood/Full Cry has elevation changes. Heck, if we played the River Course, it might be the "worst" on the list. There is some fantastic golf in Virginia!!!!!

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Ballyhack is fantastic. Would be great in late September/early October. I'm a member at Blacksburg CC and I've had the proshop call over there and get me a tee time. I'd be happy to host a group at BCC too. I love the idea of a tour of VA.


Was thinking a mid-September tour would be perfect weather. And if things got right with everything, dropping a VT home game in there would be a special bonus.

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You should come a little further down and start in Williamsburg, Golden Horseshoe golf course and Kingsmill river course are nice as well.

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That could be a weekend all to itself! And hit Bay Creek before we crossed the Bay Bridge Tunnel.

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Then you could hit Precarious, Veil, Benchtop, and Commonwealth depending on how thirsty you are.

Played a ton growing up, but I have only played twice since my first was born in September. We are about to move to a house on the golf course in Brandermill though, just south of Richmond. Really looking forward to being able to wander out for a few holes in the evenings very soon.

What is everyone's favorite course in Virginia? Mine is probably The Virginian or River Course.

Favorite to play is definitely Olde Mill. Always in solid shape (though a couple holes can be swampy) and really fun once you learn the course. The one I like to splurge on is Primland. Then again, I haven't played any courses up north or out towards the coast.

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Never played either but both are on my "want to play" list in VA

I've always enjoyed Independence in Richmond as that was the course I grew up on and learned to play on. The 9 hole par 3 course was awesome to play in elementary and middle school. My parents would drop me off with friends off couple times each week during the summer and we would walk it for $5 each. The 18 has given me many firsts in my golf game as well. Still my favorite in Virginia might be the River course. You couldn't beat the price to play it as a Tech student.

I loved that par 3 course growing up too. I always liked the full 18 at Independence but never loved it. Definitely a nice track though.

I feel the same way as you about the 18. If you haven't played it in the last few years, they redid the sand traps and the greens and took out some trees here and there. I still enjoy it, but definitely not a favorite.

The par 3 course had some fun holes on it and get like there was some design thought into it. Most of the other par 3 courses I've played felt like they were primarily squeezed in with little thought to the holes and were really short.

Anyone know of a good/reasonably priced instructor in the NOVA (Arlington/Falls Church) area who offers private lessons?

I have you covered if Reston makes sense for you? Let me get rates if you are open to it. Reston National right off the Toll road. VT buddy of mine trying to go pro and works there.

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I would also be interested in this as my wife is interested in learning to play.

Dude relocated to FL, my bad. Maybe he will make it yet... my bad

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Yeah assuming we could schedule lessons to where I'm not driving in peak rush hour times that could work well.

See above, my fault. Reston national is a good/cheap spot for lessons though. They have some really good golfer that work there who kick my ass all the time.

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Appreciate the tip.

Mark Lawrence is continuing his hot summer at the VA AM. Tie for Co-medalist, he's now into the final 8 as the #1 seed in the bracket play. Had to claw to win both matches Thursday when he was 2 down at the turn in both. 8 am today....

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And he's into the finals tomorrow!!!!

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Winner winner chicken dinner! Only 4 guys have won the open and am in the same year. He's the first to do it it 35 years.

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Drew Weaver leading after the first round of the WinCo Open in Portland on the Korn Ferry Tour. Hope he can hang on and win the thing, would essentially guarantee qualification for the PGA Tour next season.

If tiger doesn't win i hope it's lanto๐Ÿ˜ƒ

It's an illusion
It's all an illusion

Great article. Never realized we turned him down.

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Tech turning down a person who becomes really good at a sport later on in his career. Sounds familiar?๐Ÿค”

It's an illusion
It's all an illusion

That. Is. A. Great. Read.

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What a day for Morikawa. What a day of golf. It's amazing to see a leaderboard with 6 guys tied for the lead on the last day. So much scoring, so many clutch shots, capped by Morikawa hitting a drive to 7' on 16 and sinking the eagle putt. Four days of golf came down to the final holes. What a great weekend.

His drive on 18 was unbelievable.

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Not as good as his drive on 16...I swear I thought when it landed that it was going in
...legend

I'm an idiot. I thought 16 was 18 for some reason. Yes...the drive on 16 was unbelievable lol

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Been playing a bit more lately. I had surgery on my left shoulder in 2017 and then on my right shoulder in 2018 and I'm only now beginning to get my swing back. With the new way my right bicep tendon operates my fade (that I had learned to play really well) is now a draw... still learning how all that is working out with each club.

Anyway, shot an 86 today at the Shenvalee (New Market Va.) which means I'm getting close to back to normal.

Is coronavirus over yet?

That is a great accomplishment. How is that course? I travel to dc often. Thinking stop by and play it on way home next trip that i can take my clubs.

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I really like the course. It isn't long, but you definitely have to hit your shot on a few of the short par 4's. It's almost always in really good shape. For the price, I think it's the best in our area.

Is coronavirus over yet?

Morikawa is the best iron player since Tiger. He deserves this coronation. He's going to win a lot of tournaments.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

No fans at the Masters this year. Not too upset by that at least they are gonna play it. Still excited to see what Augusta could look like in the Fall.

ESPN. The coverage is excellent, you'd be surprised at how much you can pick up.

Now Mickelson can't bail out into the crowd... /S

Gonna be interesting. I'll say it will be completely different than the PGA. There, they had a marine layer and we're at a course not many knew. At Augusta, everyone knows it. So being vacant I bet it will be extra eerie...and freak out the young guns to some extent. Those comfortable there will shine.

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I am interested to see how different the course plays in late summer/fall conditions compared to spring conditions.

It may play different, but Charley Hoffman will be in top 5 after Thursday.

ME Class of '16
VA --> AL
I'd rather be golfing.

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Is the cut off for the invitation still whatever tourney it was back in the spring (I assume it is)?

I believe it is. However, if something odd were to happen like a player not in the field wins the US open, or the tour championship, I'm sure they could make an invite. It is an invitational, and I'm betting that a few Euros don't make the trip over here...

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Lanto Griffin playing his first Masters. He did a great article recently. He's so psyched, he better get to play.

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It's a lock for Tiger. Would love to see a really struggling Speith pushing Tiger on Sunday. Will be a shame not to hear the roars.

Great Oaks in Floyd is a hidden gem. Always in excellent shape, rarely crowded and easy on the wallet.

US Amateur is being played at Bandon Dunes this week. That venue shows well on tv. Anyone been there? How was it?

Hokie Connor Burgess

Anyone know how he did? I haven't looked.

The cut after stroke play was around +2, and Burgess shot a +12. He was near the bottom, but still great to have a Hokie representing!

75-80 to miss the cut

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My buddy and I play that a decent amount. He lives near by so whenever I have to crash we usually wake up and play. I'm a fan. Many lost balls though haha

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I didn't like the course set up too much the couple of times I played it last few years. Also get it was expensive for the course quality, but not much you can do about that for a public park course in NOVA. I just get like every hole felt the same. If I remember correctly, it seemed like almost every hole had a valley in the middle of it.

I really like Brambleton the most of the NOVA Park courses, primarily because it was easy access after work for a $15 twilight round and the course was in pretty good shape.

It's the course I grew up on. Many fond memories there.

Of course I talk to myself, sometimes I need expert advice.

My course got 7" this past Thursday alone. On top of the already 10" over the previous 8-9days. Club Championship for this weekend got postponed until October...hoping for dryer conditions. And a better game.

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I played down at Pohick last night. The 13th hole is a long Par 5 that plays about 260 to water and about another 220, uphill, to the pin. It's a three-tier green. It's a very tough hole.

Anyways, I smashed a drive to the end of the fairway before the water. I hit a crisp 3H over the water but short of the green. I thought it hit in the green side bunker, but my buddies thought it was a little outside it. But everyone saw the ball come down.

When I went up there it was just gone. Poof. What should have been an up and down for birdie evaporated. It was rough.

Where did you play your 3rd shot from? I'm always curious what different groups do as far as official rules go.

Friendly game, no money, no league play, and no field to protect, if we all saw it come down in a general area, just drop there and continue if we can agree that the ball was physically there. Not official rules.

In any other situation, it's a lost ball if you can't find it in 3 minutes and have to go back to where the last shot was played and are hitting 4.

But sometimes, if we are just in our group, drop one where you think it might be and hit 4 from there. A shot penalty, but no distance...not official rules, but saves time of going back to the last spot. Rub of the green...

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Yeah in unofficial events we play what my dad taught me as "beach rules"

Anything out of bounds play as hazard, give your self a shot and take a stroke.

We roll in the fairway as well.

If it's lost in plain sight, we call it the leaf rule.

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I'd rather 4 putt than "lose" a ball right down the middle...which I have done too many times to be happy about...Including an absolute pipe at Kapalua last year... still pissed.

I have only walked off the course during a "serious" round once in my life. When I was a junior. Had to run carts at 5:45 in the morning. Then was running late and got a ticket on the way to the course/tournament. Get there and find out there was a fog delay, but they didn't notify people...which pissed me off. Got a ticket at 17 for nothing. Dumped a few in the water on the first 8 holes...playing like trash. Then pipe one down the middle on 9. Playing in a foursome, with an adult scorer. And other lookey-lous on the fairway. Never found it. They were giving out hot dogs at the turn. Grabbed a dog, threw away my scorecard, and went back to work (which was a golf course an hour away.) Yeah, nearly 3 decades ago and still salty. Only time I've quit. Just wasn't my day.

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I feel you... I need a par once on 18 to shoot 79... Beautiful slight fade right down the middle- picked up my tee and never looked. Searched a legit 15 minutes...never found it. I was livid for 3 weeks.

I needed a par to shoot 79 and my approach hit the flag stick and shot directly in the water.

uggghhhh!!!

I picked up. Twas and awful feeling. I ended up scoring a birdie on 17, which was nice, but it still sucked. We spent about 10 minutes looking and I wanted to keep pace of play.

o no! Pocket balls suck

Sounds like it might have plugged under the lip of the bunker and sand came down & covered it? It's happened to me...

Now that you mentioned it, I wish I would have re-checked that. But there was a substantial gap between the lip of the bunker and the sand.

Anyone pick up PGA Tour 2K21? I've been watching some of the gameplay and it looks to be pretty good. A lot more licenses than TGC2.

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Yep I have it for xbox. I am itching to play when I get home.

Had it preordered. Woke up yesterday to it already downloaded. Played for 4 hrs. Addicting. Putting is maddening right now but I'll get used to it. Loving it so far. For PS4.

Jack Bauer fears no one. Except Xavier Adibi.

I am enjoying it the more I get used to it. Kinda frustrating that swing tempo seems drastically different from TGC 2019 (putting included). But other than that I'm pleased!

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Supposed to be playing a tournament tomorrow and Sunday...it's slap pouring right now.

Update: Miraculously, it's still on. Shotguns at 1.

Update: played relatively well on the front (started on 2, finished the round on 1). About half an inch from an eagle on 1. Back nine chewed me up, spit me out, pick my ass back up and started chewing again. Only positive of the day is it likely dropped me to a flight that I can genuinely make a little money on. That first flight will be former D1 golfers and scratch dudes.

Update: if the back 9 at Forest Park is burned down by tomorrow morning...it wasn't me.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

Don't worry, you'll know what it's to play on the PGA Tour in those conditions!

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Got a picture from a dude a couple hours ago and about half of 10 (par 4) was flooded...I've played in pouring down rain before, but never from a boat lol but, on the bright side, I've struggled with my driver on that hole recently, so it may just play in my favor.

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Olde Mill?

Forest Park. Olde Mill number 10 was also likely flooded though lol

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In Martinsville?

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What tourney at Forest Park is attracting former D1 golfers?

There are some sticks down there in that region.
Winning score this year was 66-72, to win by 4.
Three of the 4 in the champ flight played college golf. All D1 I believe...
The kid that finished fourth in the champ flight...his dad finished 3rd in the first flight. His grandfather is my club repair guy. And I have his dad's autograph on my wall on the same sheet of paper next to a former first round draft pick in the NBA.

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I grew up playing that course although that was when it was still private. I know a few of the good golfers from back in the day (Decker, Sibbick). Didn't realize there were that many good sticks still there.

It was an invitational...and I think some of the sticks are at Chatmoss. But for the region, it brings in some guys. Reminds me of the Washington County Invitational in Maryland at Beaver Creek. Not the greatest track, but it brings guys from all around. Guess it's tournament golf right before the college/high school/club championship season.

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The guy who won (Jerrel Whiting, played at Toldeo and was on Magna Vista's state championship team) is a member at FP, also won Chatmoss' invitational a couple weeks prior, shot a -4 on Sunday there lol then yeah, the Adkins' boys are pretty badass too. Blake Carter (played at Bassett then Longwood) was at a tourney at Hermitage I believe.

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The Adkins are the ones I was referring to.
My club guy is the grandfather. He does their club work for them as well. Understand that Jeff can still get it out there for a guy in his late 50's. And says they'll have a Saturday game that is straight gross where 20 guys will show up that are sub 4 caps...players.

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Is Jeff the current boys hoops coach at Martinsviile?

Not sure. I think he was...but not sure if he still holds it or not.

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Yeah, I've known them for 15yrs-ish. Me and Jack are the same age. I had no idea Jeff was that good though

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Cool. Didn't realize MV won a state title recently.

I thiiiink like 2008? Maybe? One of those guys played at Tech (Adam Webb?)

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Scottie Scheffler with the 59!!!!
And DJ with the front nine 27!
Playoff golf at its best.

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Hey golfers, random golf related question. Has anyone gone to a golf themed family entertainment center called TOPGOLF before?

If so, what did you think of it?

It's a lot of fun. But pricey. Nice if you can split it a few ways.

On a sidenote, I found myself in quite the alcohol induced endeavor at the Myrtle Beach location last November.

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It's like golf's answer to bowling alleys. It's a great atmosphere with the beer flowing, competing with your buddies and talking smack. It is pricey but I think 6 people can play at a time. Split 6 ways, it's not to bad. It is cheaper at off peak times.
It is not just for golfers. I took my wife and 2 grown daughters, none of which play golf. I had a $100 gift card. We ate lunch, each of us had 2 beers and played for 2 hours. My gift card did not cover the bill.

" It's like golf's answer to bowling alleys. It's a great atmosphere with the beer flowing."

Hit the nail on the head.

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It is pricey. I think there is a half off night maybe. I went with a few of my team members in Cincy last year but someone picked up the 90 minutes of time.

To be honest I didn't enjoy it that much. I used their clubs and the balls don't really fly normal distances. It's probably great for non or novice golfers but if you are an avid golfer you might not have that good a time. It is an opportunity to do something sort of golfish with non golfers though.

+1 for those that replied. Thanks

It's an interesting business, not sure of the % of returning customers though.

Got up to Athens on Wednesday and played 18 Thursday, 9 Friday, and 9 yesterday.

First birdie ever last night and a new best 9 hole score of 42.

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Played nine today. Shot a 39 without hitting a single green in regulation. Got up and down on six holes and averages 1.1 putts per hole. If I can find some greens I could be alright.

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If I can find some greens I could be alright.

Isn't that what every golfer says?

But seriously an average 1.1 putts means you have a solid wedge game or are damn good with the putter. I'd settle for either one. My short game is awful.

It was both yesterday. I made (estimating loosely here) about 50 feet of putts on the first four holes. I stuck a few wedges close but it was mostly the putter carrying me yesterday. Honestly that was more rewarding than a similar score with more birdies.

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Going to play for the second time ever, only did the back nine the first time and going to try a full 18 on sunday. on the 9 holes I played previously I hit a 78 so I'm thinking I'll hit close to 160-180 if I'm lucky and can control my slice. Luckily found a friend with a set of clubs that arent from the wooden age so maybe better clubs will help me hit better.

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Only gotten 2 and half rounds in this year.

On Father's Day weekend, got 10 holes in at Furman's course before the rain rolled in. Played 18 the following day at muni course that was rough shape, had a good front 9, but got ugly on the back 9.

A couple weekends ago got out on Gary Player designed course here in upstate SC. It absolutely kicked my butt. Only had 1 par and that didn't come until #17. I'm chalking some of that up to the heat index being like 105. Course is definitely hard but one of my favorite in the area.

Well posting this because I am excited and need to tell someone. When I try to tell the wife about it she shockingly does not care.

A first for me for both a fitting and purchasing brand new clubs. Got fitted for the Mizuno MP20 HMB. When Mizuno says nothing feels like a Mizuno I didn't believe it until I hit them. I hit every head and shaft under the sun and it came down to the Ping I500 and the Mizuno MP20's. The Ping ended up losing out due to back spin. There was virtually none. Also, got to hit the new Taylormade line - did not like it at all. Actually like the P790's over the new 770's.

Well, that is all. Now I just have to patiently wait 3 weeks for them to be delivered.

Mizunos are:

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Mizuno's are great clubs- for low handicap players. Many more tour players play them than are endorsed to play them. They have been a staple on tour for years... especially the mid-long iron blades.

Tiger has been (basically) playing Mizunos his entire career.

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Yep- and bridgestone balls - regardless the swoosh- for most of his career as well. He played the Mizuno blades when he first went on tour and Nike hired their club fitter to make him his "nike" ones.

From what I understand, his Nike Blades were the same molds from Mizuno. And the TaylorMade blades he's got aren't too far off.

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Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I miss my 32's........they were so sweet.

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Currently playing with 32s. They are the best looking clubs out there. Also I am a firm believer that muscle back clubs can make you better by giving you the feedback to be a better ballstriker.

Where did you get fitted at?

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Went to Club Champion here in Scottsdale. The guy there treats me good. Doesn't up sell, I haven't paid a fitting fee, and I went a good hour over the "time" during my iron fitting and we went over in my wedge fitting as well.

DJ made a double (triple???) breaking 45 footer to force a playoff. My wife said that was the best putt she's ever seen go in when she was watching. Then....

RAHM BOMB FOR THE WIN.

Unreal putting to finish tonight!!

Played the Cascades and the Old Course at the Homestead this weekend. Putted lights out at the cascades course. I got paired up with a guy from ATL who was on a golf road trip. He was playing both courses at the Homestead, going to the Greenbriar to play the old white course, then to Radford to play the River, finishing up at Primland. That's about as good of a mountain golf trip as you can plan.

Played the Carlisle Barracks Course this weekend in PA and man what a nice day to play yesterday. First time ever playing a full 18 and hit a 69 on the front nine and a 69 on the back nine. Driving and iron play was good for me but the putting messed me up as normal. If anyones looking for a really forgiving course for a beginner or just a really nice course I'd highly reccomend it not only is it a nice course but 18 holes is only $24 and if you get a cart its only $31.

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I played in a tournament at Royal New Kent on Saturday. I finished tied for 6th out of 60 people. Hit a 6 iron 165 yards into the wind on #3 to 1'6". I knew it was going to hold up and I'd win 60 bucks. Heartbreak one of my best friends hit 3 inches away. Fuck him.

Nice piece from Golf Digest:

An open letter to new golfers, from the rest of us
By Joel Beall

New golfer,

Hello. We are thrilled to hear you have taken up the sport. Our game is one of endless joy and incessant frustration. If that sentence doesn't come off as a paradox, congrats, you're in the right place.

Let us begin with an apology. We wanted to write this sooner, as golf has been inundated with new faces this year. However, much like frosted tips, planking and America's infatuation with British cooking shows, we thought this might be a passing fancy. Yet fall is around the corner and it remains easier to pole vault with a toothpick than to book a tee time, so ... welcome!

With any new endeavor things are bound to be foreign, and as you may have noticed, golf seems to have an inordinate amount of curiosities. On what to do, how to do it, where to play and when, and why everyone has a strong opinion on someone named Bryson. Our goal is to answer your questions while also showing you the ropes in order to make you feel at home. Before we dig in, no, we don't get the fondness for argyle, either.

For starters, the starter. That's the man, likely retired, guarding the first tee box. He is either a saint or drill sergeant; there is no third persona. If it seems like he's taking his job a tad too seriously, well, he is. That's OK! That job is to keep things running smoothly. Our advice is to treat him like you treat a bouncer: Make eye contact, no screwing around, don't speak unless spoken to. Weird, yes, we know, but like a bar, be willing to put up with a moment of uncomfortableness for hours of fun.

On to playing. You might be nervous, feeling the pressure to play well, especially if you are paired with strangers or good players. Let us ease your worry. Golfers do not care about your score. If you stink, no worries. Almost all of us stink! Even the ones who don't stink still kind of stink, because that's why they're playing with you and not on TV. We're merely hoping you're an interesting person or good hang.

That thing with the beat-to-hell AstroTurf mats is the range. We go there with hopes of trying to not stink, or stink less, or at least attempt to stretch so we don't pull a muscle on the first tee. All are Sisyphean struggles. Same goes for your efforts on the putting green. You will make all of your practice putts then fail to make anything past six inches on the course. This is why courses sell alcohol.

A few other quick hits:

Dress code: As you may have noticed on the PGA Tour, players are wearing hoodies and joggers and collarless shirts now. How it hasn't given Jim Nantz a stroke is beyond us. Despite this relaxed dress code, it's not a bad idea to play it safe with a polo and dress shorts in the short term. And while we would never, ever try to body shame anyone, there's a specific figure, and station in life, one needs to have to wear a collarless shirt. You don't have it.

Equipment: You get 14 clubs. You will hit none of them consistently, blame the poor results on said clubs, buy new clubs, and hit them just as bad, if not worse. This may spur you to seek instruction from a golf teacher, but in all likelihood, you'll just buy another set of new sticks. Adjust your financial planning accordingly.

Rules: They are unclear, but not as unclear as they used to be! There are a lot of them, but playing the ball as it lies will keep you out of trouble. Unless it's in Mrs. Havecamp's backyard. Technically that's out-of-bounds ... but if you don't see her, swing away.

We good? Good. Because our intention with this letter is not entirely altruistic. There are a few things we expect of you, even as a newbie. Especially as a newbie.

You see, many of us view golf as a loved one. In fact, many of our actual loved ones think we love golf more than them, and to that we plead the Fifth. This may explain why you're receiving the same type of coldness you get from your girlfriend's father. In short, you need to prove you're worthy of joining the family.

Your primary responsibility: Do not hold anyone up. Slow play is the bane of our existence. If we could, we'd put the worst offenders in stocks by the clubhouse to be mocked and pelted with driving range balls. To reiterate, it's OK if you struggle. Just don't be deliberate about it. You get one practice swing. Despite what you see on tour, you don't need to read your line on both sides of the cup. Forget what the wind is doing; your shot likely won't get high enough for the wind to affect it. Be ready when it's your turn to hit, and if you've surpassed triple bogey on a hole, pick up your ball and head to the next hole. Deep down, we are a considerate bunch, but patience is not one of our fortes.

Also, etiquette. The game is not short on civil graces, so we aren't anticipating you know all of the dignities and guidelines. There are, however, a handful of basic "don'ts." Don't talk in someone's backswing. Don't talk about another person's swing. (Yes, we know it's past parallel. As we already mentioned, we stink.) Don't hit into the group ahead. Don't walk through your partner's line on the green. Don't be overly crass. Don't spend 10 minutes trying to capture the perfect Instagram photo. Don't sulk about a bad round. Don't get angry at a bad round. Don't do anything but laugh at a bad round, because, again, we all stink.

Oh, and above all else, definitely don't flirt with the cart girl. This is her workplace, and she's already been hit on 50 times before she reached your group. Treat her like a human being.

Basically, if it's something Michael Scott would do in an episode of "The Office," don't do it.

Look, we get it. This is a lot and it may read like a syllabus, or worse, a "Stay off our lawn" sign. But we want this game to remain special, and that's making sure beginners know why it's special. For all the above, you will quickly realize there are few things better in life than a pured 7-iron or a smoked drive or sharing a drink at the clubhouse with the rest of the Thursday night league (something to look forward to someday when we get through COVID) or standing on the first hole with nowhere to go and all day to get there. Whether your round is good or not (and we mentioned we all stink, yes?), those are moments that make the sport so damn enjoyable.

So again, welcome to our beautiful game. And if you don't mind us asking, where do you stand on the distance debate?

Man, who woulda thunk it? Every year in the US Open, at least 2 players have carded 80 or higher in the first round. Until this year. At Winged Foot. Where the Super said his goal was to have the winner at +8.

Either way, that rough looks juicy. I'd imagine tomorrow is going to be a bloodbath. Get the greens nice and slick. And they've said they aren't cutting the rough at all. Imagining Merion and Shinnecock type difficulty.

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@BuryHokie #ThanksFrank

She's fighting back a little now. Hoping it won't be too bad for Rory later lol.

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