August (already?) Fishing Thread

Well, since I produce so much of it, I guess it's my turn to take out the trash.
Since our last thread got so ridiculously long that the loading time had me picking up my book whilst waiting, let's just go ahead and start another one, shall we?

I heard from my trout fishing neighbor that they'd caught a 31" redfish in the Mobjack the other day on a Gulp Jerk Shad on a jig head while trout fishing. Got me fired up, for sure. He's invited me to fish with him tomorrow morning early (yep, 5:30 is early to me) for a quick few hours, so I'm hoping we see something worth reporting.

Anyway, guys, gals, fisherpersons or whatever, please share your fishing reports, questions, declarations, pronouncements, gripes and photos proving it right here until the Fall thread comes around.

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Intel/experience with Diawa BG?

I'm a Shimano guy but I'm looking for something less expensive to use in the surf throwing jigs/fishbites/gulp and has a little more line capacity at the 2500 size level. This one and Penn Battle II seem to get a bit of ink/video. I know French is a Penn fan.

The Diawa BG series is awesome, used one the whole time in florida casting jigs and swimbaits and its phenomenal, it was my friends but next time I have a little cash I'll be getting one for myself just gotta find a rod to pair it with becuase the reel was exceptional.

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Thanks!

The things well built for saltwater I think I was using the BG3000 and still able to hold onto big snook and jacks the drag is serious on those things and I really liked the big spool to keep things cleaner. let me know if you get one and what you put it on, been trying to figure out which rod to put one on for my saltwater medium rod for casting both salt and fresh.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

I ordered it...see below. It will be paired with an older 7' HMG (the one that ran up to 2016) but I have a few other rods I can try it on as well. Will post a report once I receive it, get it spooled up, and have a chance to make some casts.

The Battle II has been kind to me when I use it. But, almost universally I have heard that the BG is a better product.

Also, the Stradic FK is being replaced on shelves with the new FL. If you look in the right places, the FKs should be sharply discounted now or soon.

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Thanks to you as well.

So I hit the order button on the 2500 BG...($84 on ebay incl tax and shipping). It will go on an older model 7' Fenwick HMG (burgundy blank, full tac cork grip) for chunking light tackle in the surf. I'm hopefully getting a surf reading lesson this weekend from a buddy.

On the FK; I picked up a 2500 on Prime Day when you posted it...not quite the deal you saw but very close. It's going on a Fenwick 7' Elite Tech...posted the link for that deal toward the end of the other thread.

Nice. I expect the FKs to drop to around $110 soon. Reels are usually the same MSRP in Australia as in the US when the value of the Australian dollar is adjusted. The FLs were rolled out earlier there and they are selling FKs for $109.

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cool!

They had a nice little 72.8 pound Mahi caught in OC last week. New Maryland state record.

Good ol Cambridge boy that caught it.

And boats are rolling in for the White Marlin. Including "Catch 23" Michael Jordan's boat 80' Viking. Rumor is he's actually fishing on Monday...

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Thanks for starting this. My device thanks you!

Hope you score tomorrow!

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Thanks, and you're welcome.

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Leaving Monday @ 6AM........Mid 70's and no humidity. I'm jacked! Promise a full report.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Musky, hope your trip is a highlight reel for you. Take a hook sharpener and take pictures for we poor peons who can't go ourselves.
Good luck!

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Pro Cure? Anybody use it? What flavor? Results? Just got some menhaden, not sure what to expect.

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never used it but am very interested in results

In Ocean Isle for a week of surf fishing (weather and children permitting). Pumped!

On a striper trip. Fuel line cracked water in injectors. Soaked in water and gas. Getting tied down lake. Outta beer. Full report tomorrow if I get to fish.

Outta beer? Tragedy! Guess you coulda huffed the gas fumes, though, right?
Good luck with all that.

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I went down to HHI to my parents house. Was supposed to just go on a cruise with my mom and dad this evening but the weather ruined it. I was messing around in my parents lagoon and through a rattle fluke out, got rolled on about 3 times. A few casts later I realized it was tarpon. Today I caught my first tarpon literally 10 feet from my parents front door.

Gonna go out for papa tarpon tomorrow.

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How big was he?

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Pretty small, 14-16in I'll post pics Monday. Went out today caught a few reds all 20-25. I didn't catch shit. Nailed the hell out of a sandbar going 30mph. Got the most burnt my face has ever been on a day that was 80% change of rain all day

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Tres cool, heuplek. I've never caught one, myself, but it's on that bucket list. Problem with that list is that it keeps getting longer as my life grows shorter. Good luck on the big daddy.

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Fun little guys hard as hell to hook they're rolling 6ft away from where I'm standing you have to hook set strong but be able to instantly give them slack for a jump its wild. The first one I caught I only landed cause it jumped onto the bank....

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Friday was supposed to be a pleasure cruise day, rain kept us off the water so I was rigging some rods up and took a cast into my parents pond in their front yard. Caught a surprise tarpon. It was a blast, every cast they'd roll on just about anything. Had some bigger ones roll but all my tackle was in the boat and most were struggling to get the 5/0 keel weighted hook into their mouth

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Day two forecast looks miserable 80% chance of rain clouds all day, not very favorable tides with a 0.1 low at 4am to a 7.5 high. Get on the water a bit late with my dad one some water I've never fished before, grass looked good but we couldn't hook up with anything missed on two what I suspect were trout. Picked up my bud at about noon and roll to a spot we've had success at before. He takes two casts and lands two solid reds, 22.5 and 25.

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On the run back to the ramp we fished some with little luck. The 80% chance of rain turned into 100% chance of sun poisoning for me because someone took the sunscreen off my boat at some point. So I'm fishless and pissed and in pain so I run back to the ramp and completely disregard I'm outside of the channel and wreck a sandbar at about 25kts. No damage no one hurt but I felt like an idiot, luckily I just kinda skimmed over it and was able to trim up and put back out to the channel.

Sunday. Figure we got this figured out. Hit up the same spot right when we get on the water. Pull a slot red, 3 short trout, a short flounder, and a whiting out in the first hour on swimbaits with the water pushing into the creeks. Once the creek and back flat get flooded it all slows down so we took out the shark gear and went after sharks. got 3 short black tip the biggest at around 3ft. Didn't take many pictures that day. About time to call it a day when a storm whips up out of nowhere between us and the 15ish mile run back to the ramp. Unfortunately we didn't really have anywhere to shelter but found a back creek and hung out there for awhile. I had a real shitty time as far as hooking fish go but it was a fun overall trip. Struggling to get into fish on the flood tide with a boat that drafts a bit more.

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Well, you're getting out, right? Sounds like a lot of fun, except the sandbar, and the storm of course, and that tarpon's eye picture is fantastic.
I know about skinny water and boats, too. The one year the reds showed up here, we were catching them in 6-12" of water and right against the bank. I blew out three prop sleeves that year, two on oyster cages and one on some weird coral looking stuff trying to get up on them. Learned too much about prop sleeves, but man was it fun to have those slot reds blowing up on those Gulp Jerk Shad. We had to rig them weightless because of the lack of depth, but if you could get it within a foot of land, it was money.
While I had to send my original Yamaha prop and sleeve off to be redone, I worked a trade with my fishing partner for a rod and reel, and he got me a different prop (Mercury) with rubber sleeves that can just be traded out and even I could do it. Good thing, it kept me on the water that fall.

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Next time I'm bringing decent shoes and getting out of the boat with th 8wt. We could see some tailers just no way to get over to them.

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Since moving to Richmond I have tried my luck in the James a few times with no decent results. I can go to local ponds etc and do just fine since I grew up pond fishing, but seem to mostly lose tackle and get frustrated in the river. I'm open to any suggestions, advice, hints, clues etc to start being able to enjoy my time at the river a bit more and catch a few fish.

drkev10, my email address is newriverangler at hotmail.com. I'm not up to another annoyingly verbal opus at this point today, and there are plenty of others knowledgeable about river fishing, but I'd be glad to give you some advice on river fishing, especially for smallmouth.

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What section(s) are you fishing?

Hokie fan | W&M grad

Don't get discouraged. I've river fished all my life on the new and james. Every time I got out on a lake I have not a single clue what i should be doing. Still only caught 3 bass in theake right near my house in a time of the year I average 50 on a river.

Time on the water=success

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Where are you putting in on the James? walleye0 at gmail.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

I have had lots of luck on a NetBait Paca Craw, it's a hollow crawfish. I typically use the baby or the tiny. I take whatever size bullet weight I need to hold it down in the current and run it inside, then rig it on an EWG hook. Most success comes on Summer Craw or Black and Blue. Hope this helps. Have the most luck throwing it in eddies in rapids.

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Sounds like a good bait and good plan. Smallmouth avoid having to expend energy by holding in those eddies in rapids, and if they're deep enough, they are there year round. The swift water literally brings them their dinner and man do they love crawfish.

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+1 on the paca craw, and everything thing else said.

Hokie fan | W&M grad

Explore the North Anna. South Anna has spotted bass. The upper Rapp is pretty good for smallmouth.

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OK, another interesting morning in the Mojack Bay and the rivers that feed it. Fishing today with my neighbor Paul who fishes a lot for trout. He's a Hokie, a forester, and he knows a couple of my best and oldest friends from school, and also knows hokienator's parents from their forestry connections. We got 10 different species of fish today, continuing the theme of variety here on the docks and flats. One lizard fish, one silver perch, couple of croaker, two short flounder, several more ribbon fish (new to me in Mobjack and my buddy troutman Paul had never seen one), several nice schoolie stripers up to 20", a handful of bluefish, a couple around 2lbs or so, maybe 18 nice speckled trout, up to 18", a handful of rat reds around 13" apiece, and a definite first for Paul or myself, he got a spanish mackerel from under one of the docks up the North, proving to me that I wasn't crazy when I was so sure I'd run into them a week or so ago way up the river.
The majority of the fish fell prey to Gulp Shrimp, 3" pearl white with chartreuse tail for me, and Paul got most of his fish on flukes. We both were using 1/4oz gotcha style jig heads. I used chartreuse or red heads all day. The bait of the day was the Gulp shrimp, and it wasn't really close. Paul got a couple on a Zara Spook, but they were small.
I had a banner day at losing jig heads and the too damn expensive Gulps. The ribbon fish were brutal to me, with numerous destroyed baits and bite offs. I likely lost more than 10 jig heads, and went through more than three packs of Gulp in the process. It ain't cheap, but man, does it work. I will admit that I am considering moving from 6lb test to 8 just to try to minimize the loss, but I get so many more bites on 6 over the year's fishing, so I'm loathe to do so, and I seldom lose fish due to break offs, more from hangups, but not today. I had at least three fish hit me and wrap around a piling before I could get them away from the dock, likely stripers or reds from the pull. Worn out from being up at 4 am, so I'm out for now.

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Awesome stuff and glad ya'll got em! I might be able to swing over next weekend if you're around/available.

Hokie fan | W&M grad

We have a commitment on Saturday, but Sunday I think I'm open.

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Pencil me in Perch, I need some salt action. Will shoot you an email and we can talk details.

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10-4 ms. Sunday's looking good weather-wise. Might need an early start to beat the crowd at the ramp.

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Gotta do a photo session for engagement photos on the east river on sunday midday feel free to come save me I'd much rather be fishing.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

my son and his fiance just did theirs. he HATES these things, but somehow survived and the photos I saw look great! you'll live, lol

I'm in the same boat I hate attention and do not enjoy taking pictures so I may just slide into the river and float off. As my twin sister always jokes I never take pitcures unless I'm holding a fish and that about it.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Glad to hear you and Paul got on well interesting stuff on the ribbon fish I've never seen them in the mobjack.
Personally I'm amazed you still throw 6lb I personally would stick with 10 lb and a medium rod but that's cause I'm so used to needing the ass end to haul a smallmouth away from a ledge.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

It is always the dilemma isn't it? Lighter line, more bites, but more bite offs when toothy fish are around and less abrasion resistance for sure. But, 10 lb test doesn't stand much, if any more chance when a striper or red hits and pulls you around a dock piling before you can horse them out. Barnacles and oysters are bad mammajammas regardless of line strength. In a normal day around here, my 6 is just perfect, and it is highly unusual for me to lose a fish on 6 I wouldn't have lost on 10, and most of my fishing companions here have gone to 6 to try to keep up with my production, but I may spool up one reel to 8 for those challenging days, but then again, maybe not.
As for smallmouth, just never needed more than 8lb test on the New. As for rods, I believe in M or MH for smallmouth, depending on the bait thrown, but 10 lb didn't give my baits the action I wanted, nor the castability I desired. Many guides I know, especially the best ones I knew, used 8 max except in the early spring back when jig n pig was the deal, when they, and I, would go to 10, or even with spinnerbaits in high water. When we quit with the jig n pig and started throwing Mizmo Teaser tubes, we went back to 8 and even in high muddy water, the biggest fish in my boat came in on 8, and when you get a 6+lb smallmouth in high spring water, you've got a fight on your hands, but while my clients had fish come unbuttoned, I don't recall even one breaking us off because of line test.
My problems the other day were compounded by the low light conditions in the morning which led me to be less than proactive with checking and retying when the line became frayed, and the sheer numbers of those darned ribbon fish. Paul was using 10 and he got bit off as well, it just happened to me more often because I was getting many more bites on my Gulp than he was on his fluke, and the fish were more likely to be trying to swallow the Gulp. The bigger of the short flounder I caught literally swallowed the bait and jig completely before I could get the forceps on the jig. Gone, outta sight and had to just cut the line. Like I say, it's a Hobson's choice.

Edit: I do use heavier line in the fall when schoolie fishing. Useful for the heavier jigging, and the rockfish don't seem very skittish when ganged up.

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Huh I may look into it I'm going to setup a medium weight casting and tube rod for lighter plastics and more of my finesse fishing for smallmouth with a Diawa BG3000 with 10lb test probably. When I tube fish I tend to lean into the ledges and let baits go up under there to get the sneakier fish and I like being able to horse them out of a tight spot. That said I'm contemplating braid and using a flouro leader since it will be a spinning setup anyway. Dunno why but I just like heavier test but maybe lightening up would help casting the lighter stuff a little on the baitcasters.
Very interested in the ribbon fish since I've never seen them in the mobjack before which is really weird how all the sudden theyre here.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

You go with what you're comfortable with, for sure. Braid won't help you with ledging (or barnacles on a dock piling for that matter) since it still comes down to the mono leader. My personal preference is for the best bait presentation, including long casts with lighter baits as well as the action of the bait itself, which can be impacted negatively by heavier line. This is debatable stuff, and those who are now addicted to braid just can't understand that I don't give a shit for it in light tackle fishing, don't think it is either necessary or any sort of improvement on quality mono in light tackle situations, and definitely don't like the constant attention that must be paid to having a leader to maintain, but again, this is just me talking. I definitely believe in fluorocarbon leaders when I use a leader like in my Senko rig, and also believe in using fluoro for all light tackle fishing in clear water if you can afford to keep it on your reel. And let's be clear here, I made a living guiding folks for smallmouth and I never once had any problems with my tackle approaches, so while folks should feel free to have opinions about this stuff, I feel pretty solid in my approach and will not be easily swayed until proven wrong. I've touted Bass Pro Excel before because it is essentially (actually, it is actually) the same as Berkley XL, but when you can get over a thousand yards of high quality 8 lb test for less than 25 bucks, I'm hard pressed to see any reason to switch to braid.

Now, as for the ribbons, I'm with you. Surprised to catch them last week at the Gwynn's Island bridge, but just as astounded to run into them in the Mobjack, in the mouth of the East on the opposite side of the river from Diggs Wharf. A tropical fish that usually doesn't venture north of Carolina, I'm assuming the 85 degree water temps have something to do with that. Hopefully, the reds will ride the same tropical wave into the area this month, but I won't hold my breath.

Lastly, but not leastly, please come and get this canoe from me when you're around. I'll even throw in a paddle or two for you. It is in much better shape than it should be for its 40 year age. If you decide it isn't something you want or need, let me know and I'll offer it again to TKPers. Somebody's gonna get a good deal for nada dinero.

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Yup the line stuff is all preference I'll be trying some other stuff out to mess around and give stuff a try I always like experimenting when I get a minute.
Be nice if a few tarpon and some crevalle jacks would ride that wave north as well while were at it. A marlin would be fun in the mobjack I think.
I was going to mention to you I still plan on coming to get it I just have hit a snafoo the last few weeks and cant get away from town but the next few weekends I should be that way soon, I wanted to get it sunday but I'm stuck with the photographer since theyre riding with us down there I wont have my truck to pick the boat up so one of the next few weekends I'll make my way over there to get it and maybe I can find a bit and go fishing as well. I'll let ya know thanks for the patience as always its appreciated I know you want the boat out of there its been a busy bit for me lately.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

No worries on the canoe, just wanting to make sure you still wanted it so someone gets some use out of it. It isn't really in my way, I just decided it was time to say g'bye. Be glad to take you out fishing if you have the time. I'm hoping to be fishing Sunday anyway, and the boat'll keep.

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I'll be down at Fish's place this this weekend from richmond, Nator. I could pick it up and drop it off on my way back unless it's way outta the way.

Hokie fan | W&M grad

I'm on the other side of the East from fish and if I was going to be there for longer on sunday I'd take up the offer but since I'll be wandering with other people I dont think I'll have the time to mess with it so I'll just try and find some time next weekend or the weekend after to make a day and come get it, thanks for the offer though!

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Fished this morning at Flagler for about 2 hours. One tiny croaker and 4 nice size catfish. Fun morning but I guess it's pulled pork for dinner...headed home tomorrow, no luck this trip. While this week has been great for relaxing, visiting family, and forgetting about life for a while, perhaps Thanksgiving will be more successful as far as fishing is concerned.

Batteries must be recharged. Better luck in the fall.

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Thanks! Recharged they were. I always have better luck fishing in the fall and winter here.

Well, glad you're rested. You can take over for me at the office this week.

Lol. Um, no.

Please, senjohn, this is the official FISHING THREAD. We try really hard not to mention work here. I won't downvote your egregious transgression, but I'm sorely tempted.

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Maynard G. Krebs moment

Lol. Absolutely. Leg for that reference.

You and I are likely the only ones who got that. I actually almost included a (WORK!?!) in the text but figured nobody would understand the reference. Because of my last name and the show, I was tagged with Krebsie as my first actual nickname, with my brother being Little Krebsie. Thank goodness that passed along, but Bob Denver will always be Maynard G. Krebs in my memories.

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I was tagged with Krebsie as my first actual nickname...thank goodness that passed along/em>

I might not have let that out, lol!

Too damn old to care anymore.

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Just got home from a three-day backpacking trip in Rocky Mountain National Park, and had the pleasure of catching a mess of greenback cutthroat trout. Beautiful fish. Beautiful place.
Here is Pear Lake.

Druckenmiller the shotgun snap, fakes short, fires it deep into the end zone it is....caught! It is caught for a touchdown by Jermaine Holmes with 47 seconds left!

Got my surf fishing lesson(s) late yesterday.

My goals were: (1) learn where to fish based on what I see; (2) see if my terminal tackle theories would work; and (3) get the feel of a Lamiglas rod I recently picked up.

(1) Conditions weren't great but I learned what I needed to learn. I've been fishing in the right spots, but I was passing up good spots as well...no more! I was surprised at how small and shallow some of the holes are and how stealthy you need to be when fishing them. My confidence on the "where" is now pretty high.

(2) My terminal tackle setups did not work. I learned, do NOT use an egg sinker in the surf. I've been fishing since I was 5 but this was only the 3rd or 4th time I've cast into the ocean and I somehow did not know this. An egg sinker rolls like a bowling ball...not good...unless you want to know where the submerged shell hash is. I had the right weight (1 oz), but not the right shape. Need a flat one.

Gulp and fishbites on a circle hook jig got lots of attention from whiting (probably), but no hook ups. I think the circumstances for throwing a jig in the surf (and I think it would need to be a conventional jig...no circle hook), at least with our currents, is going to be limited.

(3) The Lamiglas performed well...it cast the 1 oz rig like a bullet and had excellent sensitivity. Not at all thrilled with the reel seat, but it worked...so far. I think at the Black series price point, they could do better.

The fishing results...my buddy caught a couple jacks, a few whiting, a small black drum, and an upper end slot red. Declining the use of his spare gear, I limited myself to a small whiting and a whole bunch of nibbles. But I had a blast, learned what I needed to learn, and he let me take home the red, so Mrs Dave will have her favorite grilled fish tonight!

Trade out egg sinkers for flat ones and I'm good to go.

Great photo and report, fun to read everyone's adventures. Keep'em coming!

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Agree with Lamiglas reel seats, they've always been a weak point on strong rods. I even had one replaced with metal on my favorite bigger rod. Just don't get the reason for cheap seats on an expensive rod.
Egg sinkers are just fine for drift fishing, but in the surf? No way, Jose. Really, dispense with the circle hooks and use Gotcha style jig heads for your Gulp. If you worry about mortality, mash the barb. I've caught a bunch of whiting on them, though it's a mouthful for most whiting, but the bait won't work optimally otherwise. Lots of folks use Gulp trailers on bucktails for flounder, but for drum, or anything else, really, the Gotcha head is gonna work like a charm. Here, for dock fishing and other shallow water applications, I use 1/4oz, but in the surf you can use the 1/2 or 5/8 and get good distance and hookups. Casting up current and fishing down and in is usually the deal in flowing water anywhere, and the surf is no exception. If you need more weight, work up a double rig, with contrasting colored jig heads and Gulp. Deadly on trout in the surf.
Same same for the fishbites. Just no need for circle hooks for those pan fish. Just mash the barbs.

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Waded the upper Rappahannock this weekend, low water and warm temps made it pretty easy to find fish in the deeper holes and channels. I was sort of surprised that I had the river to myself, but I guess the lack of easy access between Mott's run and Fredericksburg makes that a pretty fishy stretch for those willing to hike in. I felt pretty bad though, having to break the news to a group of canoers that they were about a mile below their intended take-out point at Mott's, and the next spot to take out wasn't until Fall Hill in Fredericksburg.

Where do you park and hike in?

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What's your email? I can send you some maps and links that'll help instead of me trying to explain it.

kinner15@vt.edu, thank you! Fairly new to the Northern VA area of things.

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Do y'all like circle hooks for bottom rigs/drum rig/ Carolina rigs for surf fishing?

Yes, that's all I've used and really like them.

Circle Hooks = Less Gut Hooking = lower fish mortality.
You have to get used to NOT setting the hook with them, but after that they are great.

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Second the circle hooks they do wonders for lower mortality, that said I only use them when live bait or fishing to eat.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Saw 2 cobia caught of the Sandbridge Pier (Little Island) this Saturday using bunker heads, both around the 40lb range. The water was super clear and if anybody has even been to this pier, it is extremely short in a very shallow area. Just makes me wonder if one could be caught off the beach if the tide was right along with the right gear. I was fishing for small stuff and caught small stuff like roundheads and flounder.

Was one of them caught by a blond guy with really short hair, 6'2 maybe?

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I didn't see who caught the first one, but the second one was caught by an Asian dude who just got there and had his line in for 10 minutes. What luck huh? There were some guys that could have fit your description as it was crowded at the end just past the white line. The catch was mid day (~3pm) just before low tide (~4pm). The end of the pier was like 5 feet deep. Crazy!

My buddy Newbie got one that day, but I am not sure if he got it at Sandbridge or VBP. I wondered if that was him.

This historically is the best time to get one off a pier.

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Yesterday was one of the coolest days I've had on the water.

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Also caught a 22 inch blue on fly and a 25 inch cobia on a jig and trout rod off of a buoy. Found a new trout hole that I hope to explore more.

Had a client scheduled for noon trip today. Leave OBX at 6 p.m. last night. Did not want to, weather and wind and tide for today were PERFECT. I got a good report of a spot with some reds and flounder, though I question the reds because they have not been around inshore. Had an odd feeling about these clients. Regardless, I felt it wise to be an adult and head back home for my clients behalf. At 8:40 p.m. they call me and cancel. WHAT THE F$#K. Lady says she and her husband have been sick all weekend long and cannot go fishing. They had not responded to my emails Saturday and Sunday asking for a personal cell number and to let me know ASAP if anything comes up. I hate people. Now I sit in RVA cleaning off my stuff while my buddy texts me photos of fish this morning from down there. And apparently he found some inshore reds.

- Cranky old man.

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Not surprisingly, I've had the same experience. My favorite was a guy from WVA who booked me a week ahead of time. We were to meet at a store, and he didn't show. After an hour, I went home and called him. His wife answered and I asked if he was on his way, had car trouble, whatever? She said she didn't know nothin' 'bout any fishin' trip, and he was down to the Hardee's with his friends eatin' brekfuss. Almost made me start taking deposits.
Once, though, I had a client call me ten minutes before I was leaving to meet them to cancel. About the time I was ready to say something unkind, he told me his father had had a heart attack on 81 near Roanoke and that they were at the hospital. Shriveled my 'tude quick and I told him I couldn't believe he bothered to call me with that happening. Dude was stand up and I'll never forget it.

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It's amazing how some people simply think you are at their beck and call and that your schedule doesn't matter.

I had a guy cancel night before a trip because he said I didn't give him a good fishing report a day or two in advance. I told him to never call me again. This was before I took deposits.

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Diawa BG and Shimano Stradic...first impressions.

Full discosure, I'm a Shimano fan...not that I buy super top end stuff...I don't...but I really like their reels. I have 4 of the Ultegra models (and 5 of the Symetre models before that) and a new Stradic FK thanks to French's prime day heads up. One of my friends/ coworkers subsequently suggested I look at the BG's as a best-bang-for-the-buck option in the surf, and after checking the interweb and asking around here, I bought one of those as well.

Both reels are 2500 series. The specs suggest that the BG (9.3 oz) weighs an ounce more than both of the Shimanos (8.3) though it should still come in about 10 oz., even with it spooled. I'll note that some of the additional 1 oz is noticeably in the handle. I say that because (a) it felt heavier when I installed them and (b) while both reels are exceptionally smooth on the retrieve, the BG handle is larger, sticks out further (5/8"), and it seems to have an eyelash more inertia. The BG handle is heavy enough, and the ball bearings good enough, to have gravity pull the handle from 1 to 7:30 on its own. That may or may not prove to be a good thing.

Line capacity of the BG is at least 25% greater. The BG comes with a braid-ready spool..a little rubber bandy thing built in so braid won't slip when tied directly. The Shimano reels don't have that and in this case I put down a single layer of electrical tape on the spool, robbing the Stradic of a little line capacity. I happen to get a steal of a deal on some power pro super slick last year so I spooled both with 20# braid and no backing. I put just under 130 yards on the BG and a bit over 100 yds on the Stradic. Both numbers are BELOW what the manufacturer touts. You can see below how I filled them. If those numbers scare you as being low (they shouldn't for most inshore saltwater with a 7' Med action, fast tip rod), put on 15# braid instead, and that's what I would normally use anyway.

Drags...the Shimano (both of them) rates a little higher (20 lbs v. 13.2) and its drag is a little smoother (also both of them, but especially the Stradic) to the pull than the BG .

Cost/Value...this is where the BG shines. I got the Stradic FK to my house, on a closeout model sale, for $155...you probably won't get the new FL for near that. The Ultegra with one less ball bearing than the other two can usually be had for $130. I got the BG to my house for $84.

I usually cast and retrieve swimbaits, jigs and plugs for hours on end standing in a boat. So for me, a reel has to be light, smooth and quick on the retrieve, have a reliable, smooth drag when a red makes its runs, and be easy to maintain. If it doesn't have all of these features, I won't use it for anything but soaking bait or, I suppose, trolling.

I think the BG 2500 nicely fits my druthers [while the 3000 at about 12 oz (spooled w/ line) would not]. The 2500 series is a light reel, it will balances nicely with a good rod, and is Stradic-smooth on the retrieve. I'd rather have 6.0+ on the retrieve ratio but I can live with 5.6 and the internet evidence (see the Saltstrong video with the snook) vouches for its (waterproof!) drag. With braid, I don't clamp down on the drag very much anyway.

Other...the BG has the traditional anti-reverse switch. The Shimanos don't. I'd prefer no switch because it's a potential entry point for moisture and just one more complexity in disassembly for cleaning.

Would I rather fish the Shimanos? Yes. But if money is a key factor in the purchase, are they 50-100% better? No way. I'd buy a BG paired with a nice rod over a Stradic paired with a lesser rod any day.

Awesome read love the detail that'll help me I'm probably going to stick a 2500 with 8 lb test mono on a medium rod for casting lighter plastics I need some sensitivity to feel a slight hit. Probably end up with the St Croix 7 foot medium weight.

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If you're looking for a new rod, the Fenwick Aetos is on sale for 150. I know you love your St. Croix's, and I've got 3 myself, but the fenwicks are a class above and a better value. A similar priced st. Croix would be 300.

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I'll check them out I'm having a hell of a time finding a good rod to match it with the 2500 should go well with a 7 foot fast action medium graphite blank.

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check the lure wt ratings...need 3/4 on the top end for saltwater inshore. down to 1/4, or even 1/8, is preferable. stay under 5 oz. i'll shut up now. lol

My G Loomins GFX Blue has underwhelmed me. Unless they have changed the blanks, the 8-17lb class fast action St. Croix Triumph has been wonderful for a multitude of applications ranging from catching hickory shad in the river to catching rockfish and spanish mackerel in the salt. Very affordable and casts better than my two attempts to replace it (the Loomins and a Carrot Stix)

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Fished a medium light triumph on a Diawa BG 2500 this weekend for bream and smallmouth and it casted a 1/32 jig head with ease was pleasantly suprised on the backbone it had for setting the hook as well. Might take a step up and get the Bass or the mojo bass depending how they feel when I go look. If not the triumph was very nice for the lower end stuff.

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Never used a St Croix. The Triumph series looks like their HMG. The only thing I'd note is the unusually narrow band of lure wt ratings...none of them is more than 3/8 oz difference from low to high...less than every rod I own. It is likely just how they rate things to more finely differentiate their many models (there is no industry standard) but I'd definitely want to have the rod in hand before buying. Does the 7' ML have enough backbone to throw a full size topwater...how does the 7' M handle the lighter end of the spectrum? If you are buying/trying over the counter, maybe take a reel and a range of lures to tie/snap on.

Being a budget man I'm coming from the ugly stick shakespeare crowd so being that I fish religiously with people who are all st croix its just what I use when I go with them and I've grown fond of the brand. The triumphs we use on the medium lights for bream and smallmouth jig rods and they work beautifully for the price range and the sensitivity is way up there for that price as well. The guy I fish with has some other higher end brands but when compared with the triumph I just like the feel and the weight of the st. croix. Guess its all just personal preference but I will definitely look into the HMG line to see. On the reccomendations on the rods with st croix I've found those are tighter than they are like I said I was throwing a 1/32 on their medium light blanks with ease and their ratings are 1/8-1/2 for that blank and I can say they can do that range easily.

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This morning, I've looked online at Star, Diawa, and St Croix; and in my garage I have Fenwick, Lamiglas, older All Star, and older Falcon. The Star guide pattern matches my older Fenwick HMG and the handle is similar to the newer one. The Saltist reel seat matches my 2005 Team All Star. The handle and butt cap on the Lamiglas matches the older Falcon. Apparently, there are only so many parts for mass production at a certain price point. The rest is fit, finish, and branding.

Way back in one of my wildlife courses, we used to joke that a woodcock (a.k.a. "timberdoodle") was made with the spare parts from other birds. I feel like that's kind of what I'm seeing right now with these rods.

I use the 7-18lb rating to throw 1oz gotcha lures. Anything heavier I would recommend the MH.

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I've been very pleased with the star stellar lite ($100) and even lighter seagis ($150). I have mine paired with a 2500 penn conflict.

did some dry casting with it this afternoon after I posted this; used different weight lures; no issues at all; light and smooth; very natural; I could use it all day. if it holds up over time, it's truly an outstanding buy.

in the fishing community, there is probably no aspect more subject to personal taste/feel than brand/characteristics of fishing rod. so get the one you feel most comfortable with.

the Fenwick Elite Tech that I'm pairing with the Stradic should arrive tomorrow. if I gush over it, ignore me if you like St Croix, lol.

I have the elite tech 7.2 model, medium action with the 2500 stradic fk. I'm curious to hear your thoughts. I do a braid to flouro leader with a small swivel to give it a little extra weight, which helps for casting distance when throwing weightless. Then again, that's probably not something you'll be doing with it.

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Received the Fenwick ETIN70M-FS inshore spinning yesterday. Side by the side with the current Fenwick HMG70M-FS it is a little lighter in the handle and fit and finish are nicer. I actually think the HMG balances the lightweight Shimano reel a little better. Messing with it this a.m., the Elite Tech actually balances perfectly with the slightly heavier BG 2500. I prefer the HMG's double locking mechanism in the reel seat. Not sure the Elite Tech quite warrants the 1/8 end of the 1/8-3/4 rating...throwing a 1/8 oz lure all day with this rod would be very frustrating with anything but perhaps the lightest braid. I expect the Elite Tech to be the more durable rod with more lacquer and stronger guides.

The Elite Tech lists for $150 and I got a great deal on this rod at $114 to my doorstep. The HMG lists at $100 and it is easy to find for $90 and sometimes even less. My first blush reaction is the Elite Tech may be $25 better than the corresponding HMG for the durability. But it definitely isn't $50 better. I can't imagine it will fish any differently.

This is the lords work interested how they do with fish on the other end. Just realized the rig I was using in florida was the BG 3000 on a St. Croix Triumph slatwater casting rod so I can finally add that to the christmas list so next time on the beach I can have a good setup. I also like the bike setup I hadnt thought about it the place we were at in florida had a golf cart we used to haul stuff to and from the beach since it was a bit of a walk but we werent allowed to us it on the beach which wouldve made it so mush easier but the bikes a great idea.

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Nice write up and comparison. I used to be shimano through and through but their prices got to me. Tried out a daiwa fuego which is an inshore series under the BG. It features more drag but less well made feel (a bit more plastic). Loved it. I now fish 2 3000 fuegos, 1 4000 fuego(they're smaller and lighter than the equivalent bg) then a 5000 BG and a 5000 Penn Battle 2. Love every one of those reels.

If you haven't checked out daiwa inshore rods they are top notch the saltist imo is a bit better than the terramar and just as their reels the lighter inshore stuff they make is considerably less expensive than shimano at comparable quality. Also Daiwa service is top notch.

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I currently favor Fenwick rods...I have 5 HMGs and an elite tech inshore on order.

prior to that I had the original All Star (before Morgan McCain sold the company to Shakespeare). Those were fine rods. I'd argue that Academy's early decision to carry All Star gave them a huge boost in getting on the map. In the 1990's, virtually every serious fisherman in Houston fished All Star.

Edit: just glancing, not the biggest fan of the split grip (I'm very old school) but I really like the specs on the STIN70MLXS...almost identical to the elite tech ETIN70M-FS I have coming and virtually the same price I paid

Oh yeah, I'm a huge split grip fan. I fish the STIN76HFS for my tarpon set up its a full grip as most larger rods are. Then 4 Procyons PCYI701MHFS, PCYI701MFS, PCYI701MLFS.

I did take my Fenwick HMX out this trip and it was great in the salt. I messed up and bought a 2 piece though

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I'm a huge split grip fan

Young people...

Where do you put your left (lower) hand? [Maybe I don't want to know...lol!] How does the split grip not catch on rodholders? And mostly they just look weird! So...that's all I got...

Usually I put it on the bottom, it was weird the first time I used one and now I don't think about it.

I agree with your assessment.

For value, sturdiness, and being able to tie braid directly to the spool, BG wins.

For the smoothness of the drag (which is where the Shimano really wins out), rate and smoothness of retrieve, I like the Stradic better.

If you can get both, the Stradic is the pick for high volume casting situations (plugging off piers for me where less work to make the lure move is a bonus.) For any kind of fishing where you don't have to work real hard to put action on a lure or present a bait, the Daiwa will do the job based on everything I have seen.

Now, for me the contender to the Stradic is the new Daiwa Ballistic. I got it last Christmas and to me it has some of the nice features of the BG with a much lighter frame without sacrificing the stability and power in the handle. It requires a little more work to burn a plug, but it makes up for it in other performance areas. It has turned rockfish up to 31 inches and some nice class of bluefish so far.

For cobia, I have been really pleased with my Penn Clash. Saragossa's are nice too, but don't have the line capacity. One good captain I know swears by the Daiwa Saltist.

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A few friends and I are chartering a sportfish out of Oregon Inlet this Saturday, 8/10. We had a few people drop out unexpectedly so we are looking for up to two more people (to make 6 on the boat). The price would be $300/person plus tip excluding any fish cleaning fees afterwards. We are ~30 years old and all have pretty good experience with offshore fishing. Let me know your email if you are interested and I can provide more details. Thanks!

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I'm not available but what are you targeting on your trip? That would be a helpful detail

Mostly dolphin and tuna with an off-chance of billfish if we end up having a real good day early.

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If anyone is near Lynchburg and wants to hear me talk (I'll make your ears bleed), I'm speaking Thursday night at Tale Tellers Fly Shop about saltwater fly fishing at Cape Lookout. Also, be tying a few flies for the group. 7-8:30 p.m., probably closer to 9.

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I would, I really would, but I really wanted to catch some Gilligan's Island reruns that evening. But if I weren't otherwise engaged...

Break a leg, flyguy.

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Wise man, you've already sat on a boat with me for several hours and know how much I talk.

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Couldn't sleep, so I'm up and going after flounder this morning. Gonna give the Gulp Shrimp 3rdGen turned me on to a rest and go back to the swimming mullet for a few hours. Since him kicking my butt with them last year trout fishing, 3rdGen's shrimp has been my go-to for trout and around the docks, but the flounder still seem to prefer the mullet, so far at least.

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Limited out on flounder today. Haven't done that in several years. Only caught 5, but 4 were keepers, 16.5-18+. I fished for six hours, but the flounder bit for an hour and a half. Caught several 13-15" trout, some 18-20" stripers and assorted other stuff including a 13" red, but the flounder were why I went. All on Gulp swimming mullet, 1/4 oz red gotcha style jig head, chartreuse Gulp, with one on white. I'm beaming.

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Pretty work Fish! That's a real solid day.

Reading good reports while I'm trapped at work on overtime

Only one week till im on the new for a few days, glad you found some keepers finally didnt think they were around anymore.

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Now that is awesome to hear. I think I know what area I'll be fishing on my guide trip on Tuesday.

My buddy in Hatteras just texted me a photo... it's a table full of flounder 17-23", a red at 23", another at 26" and a giant oyster toad that must be 14-15". He says they are delicious, pink meat. Skin em like a catfish. I've never caught one longer than 10".

The spot he was fishing? My best flounder spot I discovered 5-6 years ago, a sod bank in the middle of nowhere, Pamlico Sound. Showed it to him in June for a trade of him showing me his flounder spot, which is also a dandy. Can't believe he had never fished it before but he does now and he says it is one of the best places in the area. I probably should have kept it to myself. All fish caught on a chartreuse 1/4 ounce jig head with a white Z-man 5 inch swimming minnow or mullet or something like that. That's his go to. Slowly swims it on the bottom and just crushes flounder, while I go head to head with him catching 'em on a gray over white with chartreuse tail Clouser minnow.

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5 inch diezel minnows by z-man are the bomb tough as nails so they last compared to other plastics and catch lots of fish. If you need a good color find the pilchard color for clear water theyre awesome. If you bounce them slow for flounder you can also find the drum as well since they like the same retrieve along with the odd trout as well.

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Yeah that's the retrieve I use for everything. roll it across the bottom when I hit something pop it and hop it comes through if it's an oyster bed.

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I love the gold flake Diezel minnow for trout.

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Just did a quick google search... my friend uses the Paddlerz

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Theyre all kick ass I just liked how long they last even with toothy fish. They arent the cheapest but unlike the yamamoto or the gulp per se they can take a brutal beating. Hell the worms I use for smallmouth fishing last a full day and if they start to wear I just flip them upside down and they keep on working.

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I do like how stretchy they are!

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I've had the TRD stuff outlast the hooks they get so bent and cock eyed after 30-40 fish but the soft plastic still goes on.

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Go you!

Greentop currently today through the 18th has a buy a calcutta bucket for 7 bucks and everything you put in it is 20% off in fishing department, zoom baits, strike king crankbaits reels and rods etc, gonna go this evening after work to see what all is included in the sale and see if st. croix rods and diawa reels are included in the sale.

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Interesting, let us know how the deal works.

will do I'm gonna go look tonight and then go back with a few people and were all gonna share one bucket and fill it on up to maximize profits.
The online ad says all Allen reels, and fly tying stuff is 20% off without the bucket as well. 30% off shimano stradic reels, 15% all penn combos, 15% all lews in stock.

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Reporting from greentop they weren't kidding anything in the fishing section that fits in the bucket is 20% off including reels and rods salt and fresh.

That said they didn't have the St Croix mojo bass spinning rod I was looking for they had it in extra fast not fast so my question for the panel is how much of a difference does extra fast taper make versus a fast taper? It's a medium power 7 foot blank just curious the rods main use will be throwing light plastics like tubes and worms smallmouth sized stuff and jigging on the bottom as well.
Only difference is the taper they both are listed for same power and same casting weights just different tapers for what it's worth

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Did you happen to look up online what some of the reels and stuff are going for compared to the Green Top price after 20% off?

Oh yeah I price check anything before I buy it im a big fan of my money.

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Stradic FKs are already reduced to $139 based on their flyer for this week.

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one of the charts I see says the extra fast is shorter...if I'm looking at the right series

in an otherwise equal blank, the bend point on an "extra fast" rated rod will be closer to the rod tip and would favor a cast that creates more load...a more abrupt transition or slightly heavier lure. if the lengths are different, then it's not a straight up comparison and you may or may not notice.

all things equal (again, they may not be), it would be easier to skip lures under docks/overhangs with a shorter rod. it would be easier to cast further with the longer one.

Ended up gorging on youtube videos to try and understand any diffences it seems somewhat futile and an effort by rod companies to sell more task specific stuff that a fast blank does just fine. Got the 7'-1" fast action medium weight instead I'm not crazy on getting something thats best for a few things instead of getting a rod with fast action that can cover all plastics etc.

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The first part of this article and illustration is a good description and explanation of "action".

http://www.allfishingbuy.com/Fishing-Rods-Action.htm

However, they omit a couple key factors in this paragraph.

Distance is one of the important considerations of rod action. The slower the action the better the rod will cast. Rods that have a slower action have a wider curve on their parabolic bend, and have stored more energy when casting. This is called "rod loading". In effect, the more the rod loads the more of the rod you use to cast. Fast action rods bend closer to the tip, using less of the rod to cast...

Similar to a golf club, casting distance depends on matching casting technique (and lure wt) with the action. If you start forward before the rod loads, then distance is lost. The faster the rod speed, the more forgiving it is in terms of technique. Which also improves consistency/accuracy. No one is going to win a target contest with a medium action rod. And the person who can consistently hit a dinner plate is going to catch the most fish...at least where I fish.

Fast/Extra fast action for Lures, medium action for bait... at least for salt water. That is my rule of thumb.

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I have such a quick turn on my casts that I lose distance with greater flex. And I rarely want any unnecessary hang time on a cast...minimum slack when the lure hits the water

That seemed to make the most sense in reading it sounded like extra fast is more for vertical fishing deep water than horizontal river fishing. I wasnt a big fan of less springyness in the blank either a longer stretch helps keep tension better and I'd rather have that as well. Just a bit irritating to understand it all not to mention each thing differs from each rod company to the next. It'll be a nice upgrade from my 30$ cabelas rods I've been using where I cant feel nothing well the good graphite blanks help out so much with fishing a slight bite.

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Switching to braid with flouro leader would help with feel as well.

There is no industry standard for the flex/power ratings and you really have to go manufacturer by manufacturer, series by series, rod by rod. The med/fast 7' Fenwick Elite Tech is faster than the med/fast 7' Fenwick HMG which in turn is faster than the med light/fast 6' 9" Fenwick HMG (an arguably perfect speckled trout specialist). They are all "fast"...and they are all a little different.

The odds of you being happy with the rod are excellent. St Croix is a reputable company and a rod at that price point should be solid. And if you like their product and have success with it, you'll probably stick with them.

Yup thats what made doing research a pain, certain brands fast is way different to others. I'm taking a step up the ladder for sure hopefully paired with a BG3000 itll give me enough ass to keep a stubborn smallmouth off a ledge as well. I would use braid but I love mono for its qualities and better with abrasion as well and a little stretch never hurts. Sensation is an awesome line.

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I like a light rod with a medium or MH rating. "Fast" is relative, as said above, but I don't want a whippy tip. It impedes casting and is not sensitive unless you are studying the rod tip all day. I want to feel the fish hit and too fast a tip doesn't help that. The ass in a rod is important for the fight, but not for feeling the bite, so a compromise is usually in order. The fish I'm fishing for, and it hasn't changed much since I moved from the New River Valley, are going to be topping out at five or six pounds, so I don't need ass any more than sensitivity, but I'm lucky to have retained enough of my old Lamiglas Certified Pro rods to cover my needs well.
As for horsing smallmouth off the ledges, you're talking about a small percentage of your smallmouth fishing needs, but I don't think you lose sensitivity if you stick with medium everything but buy a quality rod. I've maintained that a quality rod is more important to feeling bites than braid, but again, I'm not mainstream on this.

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I'd get the 2500, but that's just me. The ONLY thing the 3000 does better is hold more line. The 2500 weighs less and you will like that. A lighter rod likes a lighter reel.

If they have them at the store, try each one on the rod and see how they balance. Put the reel on the rod, then balance it on your index finger. A well balanced rig will sit parallel to the ground with your finger just in front or even right over the front edge of the spool. See the photo at the bottom of this article https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/everything-you-must-know-about-saltw...

In the photo of the rods/reels I posted above...those are 2500 series reels on 7' rods.

Boy do j have a report for you guys when I get back!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

We hold our collective breaths.

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The cursing you all hear from Richmond is me working on my boat trailer lights.

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Eh? Couldn't hear you over my cussing at my right hand trailer lights. The neverending story.

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trailers have lights?

'Posed to, least here in Viginniy. I understand that in some backassward states, if you can see the towing vehicle's lights, that's good enough, covering jon boats, etc.

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Pretty sure you are okay if you have someone ride in the boat with a flashlight and a red bandana when you tow it.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

I'm about to hire someone to do this. I am so fed up with it.

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Other than starting from scratch, it might be the best move, right? That's why god made guys who do that stuff, right? I wouldn't hire a fishing guide to fix my furnace, so maybe you'd be better off with a total redo by the pros. At least you'd have someone to blame other than yourself when it all goes to hell week after next, right?
As much trouble as a boat can be, most of the trouble for me has been the darned trailers, over the years. Yeah, a couple of motor issues, but the trailers have taken the most time and energy from me to keep operating within a modicum of legality. And I have mastered the art of looking honest and truthful when saying "Really officer, those lights were working before I left home!"

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Oh yes, agree that having some pros do it may be the way to go. What's so dumb about trailer lights is that they are run by four small wires and that's it. I'm blown away there isn't a more heavy duty wire set up with stronger, stainless steel or brass connection options. I'd certainly pay money for it. Everything I look at buying is some bullshit little steel or pot metal connection that corrodes if you look at it wrong. Those small wires get nicked and dinged so easily and then corrosion sets in and womp womp. There's clearly a market opportunity for some legitimate quality set ups.

I'm about to take the trailer to a dealer to understand why the hell one tire wears more than the other. The trailer supposedly came with a brand new axle. It looks like the previous owner yanked my chain on that one. One tire is pretty much shot.

Find out yesterday evening my $1800 trolling motor isn't working now. I'm ready to sell this damn thing and take up an office job.

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I rebuilt a trailer for a 21 ft searay center console. Part of that was to redo the lights, from connector to lights. I used an encased 3 wire set that i got at an electrician supplier, outer casing rated for outdoors. I selected the wire based on the lights i picked. I used a set of LED guide post top assemblies which have lower current rating, so i could use smaller individual wire size. I figured out how to wire it so no wire splices would ever be under water, ever. Also, i made sure the ground wire attached to trailer where it would never go in water.
It takes some planning, but i NEVER had any trailer light problens after that.
My point here is trouble free trailer lights can be done.

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This is what you have to do. It just takes the stuff, the know how, and the will. I lack all three, and throw in no money and you have what I have. A patchwork of lights and wires, and a never ending tale of woe.

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Fish, i get the money part, this was the cheapest part of the rebuild. I bought the pvc from lawn guys, reused the curved sections i already had, got the lights online thru a boat discount supplier, and the wire was from a home electrical supplier, used waterproof splices as well (even though all splices above water level). I think the whole thing cost $120, and the lights were the dominant cost. To me, when doing repeated boating in trailering, thats money well spent for no headaches.

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My electrician advice is rerun the cables as one continuous wire from light to front hub so there's no splices to get messed up and seal it and protect it best you can and if you could get prewired and sealed lights that's a double win. Otherwise they do make steel UL 67 or 68 M12 4 and 5 pin connectors that are watertight etc

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I plan on doing wires all the way back and I'm going to run them through a heavy duty rubber tube I found in my basement.

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That sounds a great plan, make it continuous for the part of the trailer that goes in the water will help a ton! Good luck!

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The ground wire is the key. That's what seems to cause most of the problems

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Absolutely, ground wires are always the key. An f-ed up ground wire connection or a ground loop can cause real headaches. Its all about creating a single return current path to the hitch connector. Hope ur updates go well!!

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Went out with dad and one of my brothers a week ago. We caught lots of brim/bluegill/sunfish, a couple nice white perch and some decent large mouth bass. Caught about 60 total and kept about 30. Was a great day with lots of action. Were mostly using beetle spins with black/yellow or chartreuse spots/stripes. Best day in a long time.

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Meant to ask where you went? Lake, pond or stream? Glad you all had a good day. Wish my dad was still around to fish with.

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Just arrived in OBX. How is the fishing right now? Best time and way to surf fish? I have some gulp but do I go with live bait instead? Have a boat maybe the later half of the week (currently in shop). Same question for fishing the sound off Kill Devil. TIA.

Spot have been biting. If you get a light ENE wind (I think tomorrow would be money) fish off the pier with 10lb class spinning tackle, 30lb fluro leader, and a white and red gotcha. There should be Spanish and blues around on that wind.

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Gulp is good if you can fish it in the surf, best bottom bumping with it. Might be better in the sound,it's good for shallow water flounder, and the Gulp shrimp is great for trout. Gotcha style jig heads. Ocean side, depends on what you're after. Panfish in the surf on typical two hook bottom rig with bloodworm fishbites, or cut mullet for drum and blues, shrimp work for trout.

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Not a fishing report, but after spending a week in hotels in Charlottesville I needed a free night so I slept on my brother's couch in Richmond. Before heading back to Hooville, I went to check out the sale at Greentop to get stuff my business trip to Australia.

The 20% off counts on all fishing tackle that isn't already on sale if you buy the $6.99 Calcutta bucket. I picked up a spool of 15lb power pro, a small spool of 30lb seagar fluorocarbon leader, and four gotchas....

And I broke down. I picked up a 10-20lb St Croix Tidemaster spinning rod for $40 off to take to Australia. I may have also bought a 3000 Stradic which was already marked down to $139.

It hurt, but now taking a rod and reel with me on business trips is possible. That deal was solid if you are looking to make a big ticket purchase.

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Tried to break down a baitcaster to clean and grease the insides since it's been having issues and now the drag won't work so I must've gotten something backwards DOH

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Been there and done that! A few times.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

The only time I tried to clean my Ambassador baitcaster (many moons ago), I came up with a reassembly problem myself and ended up sending it to the factory out of frustration. Wife took the call for authorizing the repair and the factory rep told her to tell me to stay out of the reel for my own good. I'd put several things back wrong and he correctly assessed the main problem, which was, you guessed it...ME! Lesson learned.

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i'm going to reopen it and see if I can get it right if not itll get sent off but oh well. Did everything back how I took it off at least thats what I thought.

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Was given a perk at work and had the sweet option of getting a stradic ci for free. Now I need a rod to go with it ... I primarily fish freshwater and already have several st. Croix and fenwicks, but am thinking about something new. Thoughts/Suggestions?

Big thanks to ifish today for toting my little 6yr old and I around the bay today! Great times and memories as we got tons of bites and lots of different species. The ol' guide has still got it!

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Your son got at least 25 bites, but unfortunately it was dink day on the docks. Best news for me was that the little reds weren't as little as usual, and I managed a 15" red and another flounder right after you guys left for home. Also, the four total flounder were a surprise. One is unusual, I got two the last time on the docks, but four was truly unusual. We caught silver perch, lizard fish, croaker, spot, flounder, reds and trout. No stripers was a surprise, but I shouldn't be surprised. It's different every day out there on those river docks.
Your kids are lucky to have a father who loves to fish with them, and I was happy to host you both. Come on back!

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Glad you got out! Good to hear y'all got in on some good action.

Met a friend through my folks and was invited to go out cobia fishing today. Left out of Lynnhaven and made a run for the 2nd CBBT island. Started motoring along with him and I up on top of the t-top and his dad driving. Managed to find a pair of small cobia and I got to land my first ever within about 30 minutes of starting. We found another one (it was a real little guy though) traveling in a school (???) of rays that his wife landed and that was it for the day. Absolutely beautiful conditions but didn't see any fish. What activity we did see (baitfish, rays, etc.) were all under the surface and we think it might have something to do with what looks like an algae bloom all along the surface. We were out for 7 hours and covered both the bay and ocean side of the CBBT from the Norfolk channel all the way up to the Baltimore channel and didn't see nothin! From the looks of it though, we weren't the only ones. That said, it was a great day out on the water.

Trailer problems? This is a trailer problem. Last trip home from the James.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

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I'd probably call Ed's Marine Superstore at 804-798-6654 and have a little talk.

I'd call Saul.

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DO NOT EVER BUY ANYTHING FROM EDS

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They are pricks but they seem to have the best price by hundreds or in the case of this Stratos 1000's

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

They do not build out their boats or trailers correctly

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Really had nothing to do with assembly but engineering. The aluminum "ripped" at a hole drilled in the beam between the yoke and hitch. It was replaced with thicker walled beam. But I get what you're sayin'!

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Ummm, Musky, did I miss your fishing report from the great white north?

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It has taken me 2 days to recover from the travel on Saturday. I'll start tonight!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Trust me, I sold several used boats that had put together and owned one for awhile. Quality is not a word I would use to describe them, and their reputation is pretty bad.

Maybe I can get a job there doing trailer lights!

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Just got back from a week at Ocean Isle. Did a little surf fishing each day. Ended up catching a couple of blues, a couple kingfish, a small pompano, a flounder (just short of a keeper), and two pretty big stingrays. Nothing that I could call dinner, but it was a lot of fun. Especially catching those big rays. I know most people are annoyed by them, but they're a lot of fun to fight.

You can have every ray I've ever caught or will ever catch. Four of them in the surf the spring before this last one reinjured my left shoulder and it is still hinky a year and a half later. Mine were cow nose, full grown and wise in the way of turning in the waves to make for maximum effort on my part. All four in about an hour and I was ready to throw my rod and reel in the ocean. I did quit using cut bait and went to catching sea mullet on fish bites to avoid another one. Yeah, I'm one who's annoyed by them.

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Yesterday we picked up two little Zebco's for my daughter and son plus a gaudy pink tackle box with the basics for freshwater for my daughter. Did manage to avoid the Frozen and Paw Patrol poles fortunately. Towards the end of the day we got to practice casting with a lead weight in the front yard and then after dinner I sat them down and we went through the items in the tackle box and how they are used. Most attentive I have seen my kids in a long time. This coming Friday I will be taking them to a little walk down spot on Goose Creek that always seems to be loaded up with sunfish to get them their first action. Fortunately just below that spot there is another spot that regularly has a few bass or smaller catfish to let me have a little fun too.

Hehehe. Just kidding, its gonna be epic. Good stuff.

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Smitty that was awesome.

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Not a gif guy, skip most, but I got a kick out of this one, and showed it to Mrs. Fish. She wanted to see it three times. Funny, for sure.

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I know a tournament fisherman that carries a short "Barbie" pole for leaning over the side of the boat and pitching lures underneath willows when the river stages are just right.

Just got back from Buxton/Frisco NC. Blues in the surf at Cape Point...mostly just soaking cut bait. A couple on metal glass minnow lures. Had fun out at Cape Point helping the kids catch Spot...plenty there for kicks. Saw some folks catching some pretty big Pompano using sand fleas.....tried myself only to catch little dinks. But the big Pomps are out there and the sand fleas are easy to come by. Picked up a few Speckled Trout in the sound....right from the bank at the Canadian Hole - surprised us all. A few small red drum in the sound too....jig heads with scented swimming minnows. Good times last week.

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Sounds like a good week. There is some deep water at/near the canadian hole so it would make sense trout would be there as well as the grass flats.

I was in South Nags Head for the weekend. The beach was too crowded to surf fish most of the time but we did go offshore on a chartered boat. We caught 3 good sized yellowfin and had another break off while being gaffed, one blackfin, a few bonita, and 60+ bailed mahi. That seemed to be similar to what everybody else caught that day.

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Strong day

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Mahi bite has been on fire lately 40 miles out. A lot of grass I'm told.

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Definitely a lot of grass. We caught all of the 60+ mahi in a weed line and could have stayed and caught as many as we wanted. Nothing too big, but still a lot of fun. I had another friend go offshore from Virginia Beach on the same day and they got two big mahi.

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I've never been offshore but hope to in the next few years. How are mahi caught? Is it trolling, similar to an inshore mackerel trip? Or do you cast to them?

It depends on the area, time of year, etc. Right now most of the bigger Mahi have moved away from the North Carolina area so we targeted schools of smaller Mahi.

Usually weed/grass lines that you can see floating have bait fish and other things bundled up so we targeted a weed line for the Mahi. We did a technique called bailing. You can lookup Bailing Dolphin on YouTube for examples. The concept is that you have fairly light rods with small weights just to get the bait below the surface, we used cut up Bonita fish but you can use a lot of different fresh bait, then you put a chunk of that on a hook and drop it where the Mahi are. Once one Mahi is on, you want to keep at least one hooked in the water at all times. When other ones see the hooked Mahi they will come up to the surface because they think they are feeding. Then if you get lucky and get into them you have a cycle where you hook one, wait until another is hooked then unhook the first one, rebait that line and continue doing that. We had 6 people catching fish and the first mate would unhook the fish and rebait the line while we kept rotating around him.

If the bigger Mahi are around usually it's better to catch those while trolling but you can occasionally get them bailing as well.

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Headed to Avon Sunday for three days. Mostly a bachelor party, so fishing will probably be tertiary in regards to preference for past times, but hoping to soak bait all day and maybe throw some metal at dusk and dawn. I'll write a report upon my return.

Centre Island South 2019 - " I Got My Mojo Back"

I have been going up here for 6 years now and it truly is The Coolest Place on Earth. Their motto is "It only takes One Cast" and I was able to prove it this year.

It has always been nice at the lodge but they really stepped up their flower game!

Eats are always superb! Here is the last night's dinner.

Just one more thing! I'm usually up before the rest and watch this with coffee and 12 cigarettes!

Day 1

You only fish the afternoon after a quick lunch. My fishing partner for the afternoon brought this into the boat. 50 1/2 inch musky. I almost pissed my pants. I had never seen a 50+ live!

A huge cold front was coming in that made for perfect conditions. And I struck out as usual! But I had my first walleye of the trip. A nice twenty inch for the shore lunches. The biggest for me all week. Everyone caught multiple 10s of walleye.

On day 3 this guy caught ~75 walleye in 1.5 hours culminated with this 28" toad.

Day 2

Wind! I'm bumming because I had 2 follows with no hook ups and they were not that big.. Things were looking up when this mother showed. 41" fat ass northern! 19#. Still its just a northern.

Some catches during the week.

In all about 15 muskies were caught. Not a bad haul. Anywhere from 24" to 52 1/2. Spoiler!

Day 3 Bucket List Item Checked Off!

Winds were heavier than the day before from the NW. I held little hope. Nothing but nothing in the morning. No fish few follows! My fishing partner Rocco and I decided at lunch that we needed a theme. "Make Jim cry". Jim had caught the 50+ on day one. Now remember it was all in fun. We have fished together for years now.

We came to the back of a cove with a small inlet that drained into another cove. Threw my Insane Anna to the shore with an immediate blow up but no hook up. I think it was a smaller fish. Two casts later a f@#king tank came to the boat following. She went thru 2 figure eights and would not nibble. I pushed my rod down as deep as I could and she ate it! Went straight under the boat and I stopped her after pulling drag. She made a run to Winnipeg pulling drag then back under the boat. Stopped her again and then into the net. Seeing her in the net it was really a mic drop on the rod and reel. I was toast. What a rush!

I'm in Club 50! 52 1/2 inches and 48 lbs.

The pics do not do justice to how thick this fish was. what a tank. She swam away into the deep!

Day 4 - Finally no Wind

Funny, 12 follows in our boat but no takers! I was good with that! I'm in The Club!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Congrats nice trip!

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beautiful fish! congrats!

Well done! Looks like a great trip. Just one question, though. What is that green stuff on your dinner plate with the steak and potatoes? How'd that get there on a fishin' trip? No laws up there in Canada?
Congrats, Musky. You now deserve your name.

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I'm jealous. Awesome trip!

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Fish of a lifetime man, no doubt. Glad you guys got to land a few monsters - very well deserved!

That. Is. AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Congrats man!!! Great photos. I think we're going up north for pike next year, I'm extremely jealous, congrats again

Awesome stuff seeing a fish that size would be impressive enough for most!

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Anyone ever have issues with their Minn Kota Ipilot crapping out? My remote will not connect to the motor. I cannot figure out the issue and I sure wish I could fix it on my own.

Mine is 4 months old, if that, and stopped working some point Friday night. It worked on my trip on Friday. Saturday, nope. Minn Kota claims it is batteries, or my connection or something else other than the actual motherboard. I've changed batteries in the remote, checked all connections, checked the batteries (100%) and everything else that would cause the issue besides the actual motor. MK told me that whatever the repair will be is under warranty, however the closest dealer has a 5-7 day wait and claim I need to remove the motor from the boat. I told them no, I won't. It was such a pain in the ass to put on there with 6 expansion style bolts that cost me $30. I'm not ruining those bolts to take it off for them. I'll take it off if Minn Kota pays me for the bolts and time to remove and put it back on, which of course, they won't.

I explained to MK that I'm a guide, I need this thing to work one way or another and I can't just sit around for 5-7 days. They "understand," but won't do anything further. They won't send me a pedal to use in the mean time, which is pissing me off. I'd have to buy one for $200 plus.

I've always understood them to be a stand-up company but my mind is quickly changing on that.

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order a remote off of Amazon and see if that fixes it. Then return the remote within the return period.

I've debated it. MK is saying that it isn't the remote, it's the head (or the batteries, which it isn't). Question is, if I buy the new remote and that's the issue, will MK pay me for the new remote? My bet is no because it won't be done through their certified dealer. 4 months into two years of warranty.

$152 for a new remote on Amazon.... sigh

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Buying/trying/returning the remote is a free way to isolate whether it's the remote/batteries or the head and make your next move clear.

You don't have to hide your test from MK service folks. If it's the remote/batteries they can send you a replacement before you have to return the Amazon "borrow".

If you know it's the head, then I'd tell MK to send me a new TM and a shipping label. Eating $30 in bolts for 4 months of TM use isn't the worst deal you'll ever make.

edit: if they have a local vendor who does their service, testing a remote/batteries is a 5 minute deal.

Valid points Dave.

Just talked to another dipshit at MK. I suggested buying a remote. He says it is definitely not the remote, it's in the control board and in the head. I told them to send me another motor, they told me no, I've got to take it to a service center and then wait for it to be diagnosed, new parts shipped to them and then new parts installed.

Shitty customer service.

Edit: Manager decided to call me back and he was actually nice. He is next day mailing me a new remote. Will update as it goes.

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I'd put a detailed, factual, professional, i.e., non-emotional, review on their website, Amazon, and elsewhere, that discusses the impact of their return/service policy on your business as a professional guide.

I've had 3 saltwater MK's that were/are workhorses but I've never used their high end electronics.

edit: I posted this before your updates...sounds like one person is at least trying

I plan on it.

Just checked the final issue on my end, the connection between the battery wires and the trolling motor wires. It works perfectly. Head still won't connect to the remote.

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Fuck Minn Kota. I've been told they "understand" where I'm coming from but nothing can be done. It must be taken to a service center. The service centers do not pick up the phones or call back when leaving voicemails.

Minn Kota doesn't back their products.

I'm going to sell this piece of shit and buy a Motorguide.

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Further follow up in case anyone cares... I got ahold of the three closest dealers, Hopewell, Suffolk and Clarksville. Hopewell is the local guru everyone suggests. He is 8-12 days wait and doesn't take reservations. It's show up and drop it off and wait till he gets to it. Suffolk finally picked up the phone after 6 calls and 3 voicemails over three days. The guy couldn't give me a straight answer on anything from if they have much experience with these motors to could he give me a time frame estimate. No way I'm taking it there, he sounds like a dumb redneck. Clarksville finally picked up after multiple calls again. My main point of contact had her day off today despite telling me yesterday to call in and ask for her to get everything scheduled. Tuesday is the earliest they can do but they don't want to order the parts ahead of time in case it is something else wrong with the motor because MK won't refund them for warranty parts ordered.

Mark the Manager at MK got back to me after I wrote a scathing facebook review. He said I should go see another dealer in Petersburg who only works on E-Drive Minn Kota motors, not Ipilots and the like. I questioned him on this because I'd already talked to said dealer and he said he didn't know much about others besides E-drives. Mark said "eh, they are all basically the same, if you want it done quickly, go there and have him look at it." I call the dealer back and he says "bring it in, but I've never worked on one of those before." I tell him I'll hook the boat up and bring it in this afternoon, he immediately starts complaining that I won't take it off the boat and that he doesn't enjoy working in the sun, outside. Didn't end up taking it because my sister needed a late afternoon ride in RVA but man, this smells like another freaking hassle / problem just waiting to happen with an inexperienced technician working on it. I've gotta say, I've lost all confidence in Minn Kota. This is complete bullshit.

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Finally getting somewhere on this..... holy shit it has taken way too much of my time and energy.

The Petersburg dealer who I was told to take it to was annoyed again this morning that I said I didn't want to take the motor off the boat. Long story short, it got a bit testy, sounds like he's very pro Minn Kota and says they have great customer service. I of course disagreed and had some serious reservations about him saying I had to remove the motor from the boat even though I know I don't have to, particularly when he reiterated several times "I've never done this before."

In the meantime, I call Northland Marine in Wisconsin on a suggestion and they explain a bunch to me about trolling motors. Could be a fried motherboard and it could be fried from keeping it plugged in while charging. I've left it in 3 times on maybe 12 charges. They can sell me a new motherboard for $220 and I can put it in myself, very easily, without removing the motor, shockingly enough. Still not optimal but maybe I've got to eat the cost.

I'm still wound up and have decided at this point to remove the motor and take it to the Petersburg dealer and let MK and that dealer fix the stupid problem. I'm literally holding the screw driver about to start unbolting the damn thing when the Suffolk dealer, Motortech, calls me back and asks me what's wrong with it. This is definitely not the same redneck I dealt with before. We talk for awhile and he is pretty convinced it is the head of the motor, a ten minute fix. For an extra $30 of me paying the shipping, he can have the part in on Monday (instead of next Thursday) and get it fixed, without the motor being taken off. I tell him to order it and let's get it done.

Hopefully it will all be operational for my 4 trips later next week, I need this saga over with. Still not happy with Minn Kota's customer service. Wish I had could have taken all of this time and wasted energy and put it into upgrading my home or working on my online business or hell, even swiping right on dating apps and getting blown off by women. Now I know a lot more about trolling motors I guess...

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I tried to order from Northland once...they couldn't get me what I wanted (was temporarily out of production) but they called me personally, called the factory, and did everything they could. Good folks...I think.

TL;DR get a Motor Guide.

JK I have a Minn Kota now rnad a MG on the old boat they both will eventually run into issues best thing you can do is prevent them. If you don't have the head supported on the deck do it or you'll keep blowing your heads trailering around and hopping chop

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It shouldn't run into issues at 4 months old.

How do you support the head?

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A mount. Usually I suggest a RAM mount but they can get in the way with fly line if your stirpping onto the deck, if you have a bucket it won't matter. I don't know what model you're running but Minn Kota makes their own and its what I'm using right now it works pretty well. 4 Months is a bit early but those boards are finicky. I blew a cheaper minn kota in a month. Haven't had any issues with the others I've owned though.

https://www.rammount.com/part/RAP-400-202U
https://minnkotamotors.johnsonoutdoors.com/accessories/trolling-motor/st...

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I'll take a look but mine is bolted on there very well and I haven't noticed the head bouncing around at all, even in chop.

Also, I cannot hear the word chop and not think this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY8oU4Jf_wM

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It can be bolted on there really well but the shaft has flex to it naturally. Those clamp towards the end of the shaft and give it another contact point to the deck.

The hoopla you went through is ridiculous though.

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I'll take a look, thanks!

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Also, it doesn't matter if it blew in a month, four months, whatever. It's got a two year warranty. Making me go through this rigamarole of waiting for dealers, telling me to buy a second motor, etc is just bad customer service for the cost of these motors. I get that they don't want to be shelling out new motors left and right and properly diagnosing the problem is beneficial to them and saves them money, but it hurts my pocket when I'm a guide. If MK actually wanted to provide some good customer service, they would have either mailed me a brand new motor or gotten a tech on the phone with me to trouble shoot this issue and send me the parts to get me back on the water.

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There is a pin in my friends motor. It is at a pivot point and it keeps falling out.

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Gonna be on the New thursday friday and saturday hopefully this round of rain doesnt muddy it all up was hoping to sling bugs for a few days if the waters right.

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'Tis the season. Good luck.

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Been seeing good reports so far and the storms last night didnt even buckle the water flow which is good to hear.

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Yep, this is the time of year that low and clear is a good thing, especially for the fly angler on the New.

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It actually went down overnight according to the gauges got my new spinning setup ready to rock and roll along with the fly set up its gonna be good.

As a follow up on the discussion on Diawa BG reels and combo setups I ended up going with the fast action medium weight 7'-1" mojo bass spinning rod and I'm putting a BG 3000 on it after testing the rod with both 2500 and the 3000 size reels the 3000 felt best balanced to me. It helps having friends with an assortment of BG reels and rods to test stuff with before buying. The 3000 balanced perfectly with the mojo bass rod while the 2500 felt little too light for my taste. Going to get the setup broken in on the New this week pitching tubes and worms.

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enjoy!

Headed to fish the Chick R tomorrow. Let's see if I can keep it up or if the VA blues continue!!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

You and I should fish together. The boat would probably explode.

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You'd never make it to the ramp. Your trailer would break down or lose a wheel before you even got close.

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They'd never make it to the ramp they'd get pulled over on the way there for malfunctioning tail lights.

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As well as going 11 over which happens to be Reckless Driving in New Kent County. Plus, we'd hit a deer while going said excessive speed and it would damage my truck such that Progressive Insurance would screw us over for a month so that we miss Christmas Dinner.

(Both actually, almost happened,)

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Don't let the mob get you down Fly! All would be fine except we'd get too drunk to drive!

Look, it's like waiting for your odometer to flip to 100,000 miles!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

LOL I was taking the week off from drinking... made it exactly 2.5 days before frustration got the better of me and now I have a headache and hangover.

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I don't know where to put this but I bought it for fishing so it's going here.

If you're anything like me and constantly knock full beers over in the boat or have a lab that does it for you, you need to stop what you're doing and go over to toadfish outfitters and get the suction koozie. This is the most revolutionary thing I've ever used. I can slap the shit out of it and it stays put but some sorcery is involved where if you lift straight up on the it releases effortlessly. I got it at lunch time and I've just been hanging beers from walls at this point. I'm amazed.

Also cool side note they replant 10sq/ft of oyster for every product sold so that's also fishing related.

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Also cool side note they replant 10sq/ft of oyster for every product sold so that's also fishing related.

Take my freaking money

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Their shrimp tool is awesome and their crab cracker is not too bad. Pricey but it's all good quality.

I have been interested in their inshore fishing rod. I'm very skeptical about buying a rod from a company that just makes one rod on the side, but they push it hard and it seems like they've put some effort into the design.

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I know someone with it they said its not a bad rod but a little lighter than they normally like their setups.

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As I continue to try to learn how to catch fish in the surf...

On a whim, with low tide at 2:30 pm, I decided to try yesterday. It was hot outside but there was a light SE breeze with possible T-storms late in the p.m. So I figured I had a comfortable 3 hour window to fish the last part of outgoing and first part of incoming tide. Took the bike to the beach and headed north with the breeze at my back (y'all can probably finish the story at this point!).

Anyway, I go a couple of miles to what looks to me like a good spot, a trough next to a runout and start fishing. Small blue crab immediately pinches me on the foot and then a small black drum bites my hook. I reel in an undersized fish and I'm thinking, "I did it!". [This past weekend I learned to snell hooks...no, in 59 years of fishing I had never done this before... and I switched from a straight shank circle hook (bites but no hook sets) to an octopus hook on my Carolina-style rig

A little popup shower then douses me for 5 minutes. I don't care, it feels good, and I keep on fishing. The trough didn't produce any more (dead low tide) and I headed about another mile north where I knew there was another good cut and the tide should be just past the turn.

When I got there the fish still weren't biting and I noticed a large thunderstorm forming to the south. After maybe 15 minutes of fruitless casts...and watching a small sea turtle...I decided to head south. I stopped one more time about a half mile down and made a few casts in another cut I'd seen, and as I did that, the T-storm began to build rapidly, quickly filling the southern and western sky and sucking enough wind that I now had a stiff, sand-blowing wind right in my face. I needed to get out of there.

The next 20 minutes were harrowing...my old out-of-shape, bad-kneed self pedaling hard, even in first gear, to make relatively little progress into a strong wind while watching some rather spectacular lightning a few miles south and west. There was no one on the beach as far as the eye could see, they'd all cleared out. At one point, I resolved that if the building south of where I parked disappeared from view, something that I thought was about to happen, I'd take the bike up the beach, hunker down in a low spot in the dunes, and then walk out with my rods after the storm passed (I would have lost the hard beach by then)...go back for the bike today.

However, with about 3/4 mile to go, the sky to the south started to clear just slightly and the black sky to the west got no closer to the beach. The wind stayed strong and I was totally gassed, but I managed to walk/ride the rest of the way. It had been an HOUR since I initially decided to turn back.

So in my vernacular, a southeast wind shall now be known as a "death wind" for that particular beach. And tactics will dictate riding into the wind going out so there will be a tail wind riding back! I know all this just sounds like common sense; but I'm a fisherman.

Leg for effort!

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

Well another day on the Chick. Decent Incoming tide! Cloud cover! No too hot! Shit! 1 ea 12" and 1 ea that if i smashed his head with a hammer could of have gone 8". One guy came in with 12 + lbs and a 7+ then was sandbagged with 14+ lbs and a 7++ to win. I swear I have never caught anything over 3 in that stinking river! Headed back north!

Fly never let me in your boat. I'll put the stink on it and you'll never catch anything again!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Stop fishing the Chick and go learn the Mattaponi. You probably couldn't get me to fish the Chick or the Chick reservoir any longer now that I've figured this fishery out. I don't give away a bunch of location specific secrets, but here they are..... Tidal river, you want to fish the bottom end, 3 hours till low and top 2-3 hours incoming. Hot pink or orange flukes or Berkley worms, lightly weight, weedless have been the ticket. Fish the drop offs along the main channel, particularly at the creek mouths. I put in at Walkerton. Learning it is tricky as there are several mud flats that are hidden and easy to get stuck on. I can show you the route to take on a map if you want. Biggest bass so far this summer was 7 pounds, on my fly rod. Several fish at 4-5.

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Thanks Fly! We should get a beer soon!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

That can be arranged. Say when.

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Can I come too?

Meet yall out there

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I'll bring a shitload of Busch Light

Well, that's good because when the whole thing goes to hell, which it will with those two hard luckers, at least you won't be out actual drinkable beer.

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which it will with those two hard luckers, heads at least you won't be out actual drinkable beer.

FTFY

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Fished 4 hours on the New today around eggleston seems the bug bite isn't quite fired up yet one nice fish on the bug but the rest coming on tubes and worms. nothing to write home about but saw one absolute pig but of course it was too late by then. Launched a poor old rock bass into the outer stratosphere when he got my buzzbait I set the hook like it was a musky hitting it and sent him on his way.

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Joining the group of trailer woes. Guess I have a blown seal on one of my hubs. Went to grease my bearings and pushed water out... my grease disappeared quick.

4 vortex hubs inbound supposed to get 100,000 on one grease packing.

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Would you like me to call customer service on your before and get really logical with them?

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Hopefully you won't have too. I've used super lubes in my past two trailers with pretty good success but have always heard the rear seals blow occasionally. I've heard nothing but absolute praise for the vortex. People going 3+ years doing literally nothing to them.

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Hmmm, mine are the originals from 2006. I know I don't trailer the miles you guys do, but I've had a number of boats with trailers with never a failure of bearings/hubs/seals, etc. Just lucky?

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Good maintenance goes a long way. I've only had 1 fail after I replaced them from the previous owner and that was driving dusty bumpy Nebraska roads jumping the trailer all over the place.

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I know you maintain your stuff but yes, I think you're lucky.

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Thanks, I will check them out

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Heading out to Emerald Isle Sunday for a week. Will be doing tons of surf and sound side fishing. Hoping for Spanish, trout, and reds; and may try for a shark for kicks and gigs. Any tips are welcome and will post frequent updates. For Spanish will be throwing 1/4 gold kastmaster, my personal favorite for these, may try glass minnow to mix it up. For trout and reds swimming mullet on 1/4 jig (any criticism or other tips are greatly welcomed and appreciated)

buy a couple packs of gulp shrimp for those 1/4 jigs in case the swimmers aren't working

Well, I'll be drinking, eh? Serves me right for taking too much time to say too much, huh? Leg for the suggestion. By the way, have you had luck with other colors than pearl? smc was using glow with chartreuse tail and got bitten, and I used up a pack of the penny with chartreuse a couple of trips back, but most of the bites were from ribbon fish so I didn't give them much of a trial.

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I throw "natural" shrimp most of the time. Pearl curly tails (swimming mullet) when I use them.

Been hearing some good things about Redfish Magic spinners on grass flats for reds. I bought three and haven't had a bite on the one I've tried, but I've not given them much of a trial. We just haven't had the reds in numbers, and they'll also hit the trout lures we've been throwing. Someone else here, maybe dave?, said he's not a fan, so who knows, but the bait looks really good in the water and I wish I had enough reds to spend some time throwing it.
Good luck and I'd add in Gulp Shrimp, 3" Pearl w/ chartreuse tail to that 1/4 jig head. In deeper water, let it go to the bottom, and in shallower water, retrieve it in the middle of what water there is with jerks and twitches. The trout around here can't stay off of it if you can locate them. 3rdGen turned me onto them and it has really made a difference for my trout angling. Looking forward to your report.

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I think redfish magic swimmers are a multi level marketing scam. Everyone talks about them like they're a godsend...I've yet to actually know a person to catch a fish on one.

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Have hammered fish on them. Few years back, it was all the reds would hit on a late season trip to Cape Lookout. They wouldn't touch a regular gold spoon. Blew my mind.

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I have one in my bag it gets thrown for like 4 casts every time out then I got to a straight swimbait or chatterbait.

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i know how that works!

hell, the area right in front of my house looks like it should be perfect...but it isn't

Well, I don't know the guy, but I know a guy who knows a guy who uses them almost exclusively and catches reds. But, I've also yet to actually know a person to catch a fish on one.

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Really! I think I know the same guy!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Wouldn't be surprised. We fishermen are a tight knit community.

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yeah, no thanks on the spinners...I'll mail you some blades if you want more.

the people I know that have been regularly successful throwing spinners were in the SE Ga coastal marshes behind Cumberland Island. Big tide change area and they were very much "bass fishing"...trolling motor keeping them moving into the strong current and making short casts and quick retrieves right into the irregular, spartina-lined banks. Just throw it and rip it back-throw it and rip it back-throw it and rip it back...

It's been a banner year for trout if you can find access to soundside. Not sure if you have a boat or kayak. Reds and trout probably won't be as heavy in the surf as they will be later in the fall. Flounder is a good possibility surf side. Fort macon jetty seems to a good hangout for spanish/blues.

Thanks to all that replies to me, will def try out everything and let y'all know. Legs all around

I'm going to the Rodanthe N.C. KOA for a few days. Is the sound there a decent place to kayak fish or should I go somewhere else. I'll have my surf gear as well if that looks promising.

Yes, the sound should be a better option than the surf this time of year. Speckled trout fishing has been good. Look on google maps imagery for grass flats or deep cuts

Might be a dumb question, but is this doable on foot without a boat/kayak of any kind?

Yes, I've seen people post about it. Look at some of the day use areas that have deeper water.

Yes, there's a slough behind Bodie Island Lighthouse somewhere back in there that is popular for wade fishing and a lot of people have success at it. You can wade below the old Bonner Bridge along those grass banks and fish. Seen people do it all the time. Don't know if they catch much but I'm sure there's flounder along the drop offs.

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Yes. Find grass flats and fish those. I prefer last two hours of the incoming and the top three hours of the falling. However the redfish bite has been slow this year. You could also drive up to the Pea Island put in and fish back there.

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I had no idea that spinner baits were used for reds! How big and what color?

Edit: I got off my ass and looked them up. Just safety pins with single blade. Decent price for today's prices.

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Big reds have always fallen for spinnerbaits, even the bass kind, but the Redfish Magic spinners are just beefed up Beetle Spins on steroids.

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Finaalllllyyyyyyy got a weight citation smallmouth it's been a long 25 years but sweet Jesus it was worth it. Good ol tube did the trick it had been a garbage day until that fish they weren't touching the cicada bugs and most stuff I tried wasn't working so I went back to basics and got a new river toad for it. They were being weird today for no reason it seemed the cicada bite is existent it seems I tried and tried but the bug drew no smallmouth today. Phone sucks and I can't get the pictures off the GoPro right now but I'll update tomorrow
Edit: Updated with a picture and if anyones looking for good, reasonably priced, and effective smallie tubes check out Snagler Tackle Company hes out of PA and his prices are more than reasonable and his tubes are deadly if fished right.

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Congrats!

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Found out I had 4 fly fisherman in kayaks in front of me by a mile all day all fishing popping bugs in the shade lines so that helped explain why that bite was non existent on friday. My friends got caught up trying to get by them and they kept jumping all over in front of them so that kinda stunk.

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Well, your friends made a big mistake, etiquette-wise for sure, and catching-wise as well. First of all, if they were a mile ahead, they were on the water before you and trying to jump them is an asshole move, from a former guide's perspective. Nothing pissed me off more than having to deal with that behavior and I'm pretty harsh in my judgement of folks that do it. The best thing to do is to back off, even take a break and let the river calm back down. The guys on the river ahead will not get them all, nor fish all of the productive water. I once had clients get two fly rod citations with Blane Chocklett (sp?) guiding fly guys not a half mile in front of me, so my best advice is to all is to forget the guys in front and get there earlier next time.

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Oh I'm with ya I hate that crap but my friends are bad at being patient and dont like having to wait and got pissed cause they would stop and fish each rapid section for 30 mins to an hour each and my friends hated that and got in a pissing match because theyre impatient and cant relax. Meanwhile I was taking my sweet ass time well behind them and catching plenty of fish with the river all to myself. They finished the trip by 2 pm and I didnt get to the take out till 5 pm and I wasnt even going as slow as I like to go. I hate people that rush around like theyre in a bass tourney or something. Then they were pestering me to go run another short trip since they finished way early and were bored. I'm glad I was out of cell service so I didnt have to listen to it all.
Basically they always fish that way and I cant stand it so instead of sticking with them I just slow way down and focus on slow fishing everything and just relaxing something they seem incapable of, which sucks because it wouldve been awesome to get the citation with them but oh well.

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Well, on the other hand, it is not bad etiquette to pass folks that are hanging around fishing ledges and such. The bad etiquette comes in when not giving those in front of you a good deal of distance before you start fishing again. Run a fast half mile and give up the river you pass to those you've gone by and I think you are ok. I often had other guides who fished faster than me, and vice versa, and giving each other that much room usually didn't hurt the fishing or piss off the guides and clients. But the people who jumped me on the bank and started fishing immediately, sometimes not even a good cast away, got more than a bad attitude and an ear full. I'll admit to a couple of times I was worried I'd be dealing with some waiting West Va. rednecks at the boat ramp at trip's end, but it never happened. I'm a super friendly guy, helpful on the river and respectful of others, but I got well known pretty quickly for protecting my client's experience. Even the canoe/kayak rental company told their renters that if they saw a guy in a straw cowboy hat in a big blue raft, give him a wiiiiide berth. Some of us guides even had a meeting with the head of the Boy Scout camp to get the message to their canoers who were clueless enough to run over lines while we were fighting fish, literally run right over the lines to come over and ask what we were doing. I had a client who turned purple when that happened and those boy scouts got a loud angry lesson. While there are things I miss about the work, the increasing crowds on the New made me glad to give up the business and retire.

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Couldnt agree more there is an etiquette to it that isnt written rules but should be common sense unless youre just an ass hole. I'm as non confrontational as can be and love river fishing just to let the river carry me and slowly plod along and relax. Especially with the strong flow on the New you dont have to paddle unless you want to sit in an eddie for a few minutes other than that just let the current get you to the take out points. Maybe its just me but if you cant relax when fishing youre doing it wrong. My biggest gripe is like you give people space if you intentionally get withing casting range I might be tempted to throw a half ounce on and start lugging it your way but as long as people stay spaced out theres plenty of fish to go around. Thats also why I like to go super slow it avoids having these issues since everyones passing you regardless.

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If I'm kinda stuck in second position, I'll see how folks are fishing and do something different. Found one of my best fishing spots ever in the St Johns that way. Guy was on the front of a VERY nice rig and was using some kind of fast retrieve (my guess is he was pre-fishing a bass tournament). But he wasn't getting way up under the docks...like he was scared of getting hung up. I anchored up, ate my lunch, and about 30 minutes later I bounced some gulps in tight under the same docks... I caught 5 slot reds including 3 out of one spot where he had completely whiffed. And that spot held fish...until I gave it to a friend...who gave it to a guide. Ugh.

pretty fish!

Nice fish and congrats on the citation fish.

The good: Met a friend at Willoughby Spit at noon to go look for cobia in my flats boat on the CBBT. I was late by an hour due to too many tequila shots the night before. The weather was fantastic. He knows a pretty good amount about cobia, and we see two fish just cruising out to the bridge. He catches 28-29" fish on a jig off of a ray. I have three serious follows on the fly from a mid 30s fish but he wouldn't commit.

We hit the bridge pilings and cruise back and forth. Lots of bait, no cobia. Head toward Cape Charles to look for fish in a channel up there. Stumble across schools of menhaden a quarter of an acre each in size. Huge cobia are circling them and slashing through. Over probably an hour and a half we see 20-25 fish. Sometimes singles, one school of marauding cobia was 12 deep. NONE of them would eat. They would follow and track our jigs and my flies, even to the point that it seemed to be touching their nose but wouldn't commit. It was really cool to see though. We headed back in as the wind started to kick up.

The bad: On the way down to Hampton Roads I noticed a vibration from my truck. Felt like front left wheel, I was guessing bearings. Stopped and checked, all good. Still noticed it the last 15 minutes, weird. Fished all day and then checked the wheel again before hitting the road. Nothing wrong. Hit the road. Notice the vibration here and there but it's not as bad as on the way down. Think I'm just hallucinating with my hangover. Half way back, on 64, the drivers side trailer tire fucking flies off and bounces down the highway. Unreal. I am cursed. I drag the trailer a half mile to an open spot of construction in the median. Takes awhile with the unending traffic but I'm able to retrieve the wheel. I had changed out the wheels to newer ones my dad gave me last week. Thinking I forgot to tighten the lug nuts, but I swear I didn't. The other wheel had one stud broken off... wtf? My Dad and I are thinking the new wheels don't fit perfectly and it is causing wobble. Regardless, I put on an old but good, so i thought, hub to get me four miles to the nearest auto parts store so I can get new hubs to put on both sides. Don't even make it the 4 miles. That hub apparently wasn't good and the wheel starts seriously wobbling as I'm in the town of Lightfoot. I park in a parking lot and leave the trailer, go and get three brand new hubs and come back to change the two out before heading home. It's dark, 9 p.m., and I'm starving. I get chinese food from the spot right down the street. Try to take the nut off of the spindle on the bad side and it is fucked up. The wobbling apparently jammed it on there. Even if I got it off and got the new hub on, no way that nut is going to go back on. I'm completely fucked. Left the boat there in the parking lot and drove home. Going to have to get it put on a roll back and then brought back to my home in Richmond or a trailer center to have the spindle / axle replaced. I don't know what poor karma I've unearthed to have this type of shit happen over and over and over but I am legit considering selling this boat. It is just too much of a hassle to always be fixing something. I'm over it. The slightest of silver linings is the vibration was from the trailer wheel, it has nothing to do with my truck.

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I'd say keep the boat, junk the trailer and eat the cost of a brand new one, but that would probably make your motor blow up or something. Tough luck, flyguy...tough luck.

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Thanks. Yep, can't wait to see what happens next!

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Hate that happened with your trailer. At least you are ok. That could have been much worse.

Regarding the cobia on a bunker pod- if they are actively feeding but not eating a lure, try and sang & drop a bunker. I always keep a sibiki with a 1oz sea striker casting jig on the bottom handy on the pier and would do it if I ever had my own boat. You can snag a bunker, then put it on a knocker rig to get it under the school. They will hammer a straggler or wounded fish.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

This is what the captain and mate did last summer on our chartered cobia trip. I think we got at least three of the seven this way. Got bit on every bunker they tossed. Lot of things about that trip that I didn't like, but the crew knew how to catch cobia.

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Thanks, we thought about trying to cast net the school but they were moving damn quick.

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My condolences flyguy, that's horrible. Hope you get the legs back under your Hewes soon. Sounds like hokie football isn't the only thing the 'exercising' some demons. Come get this boat in the meantime. It needs a run and you need a break.

Hokie fan | W&M grad

Thanks, will let you know. I might be able to put a new axle in it tomorrow

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Fish is some soothsayer! Tough luck fly. Someday I tell you the story about the entire boat launching itself off the trailer. That will give you a laugh!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Between the two of you, what hasn't happened?

Musky, send me a text with your mailing address. I have a commemorative item you've earned by virtue of your monster Canadian catch. It was given to me by my old Radford fishing buddy Cecil to mark my first 'lunge, but it's right up your alley now.

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Awesome I will do! The lodge kept the lure. They showed me something they did for a guy's first musky. It was pretty funny. I'll see what come of it.

Pretty Cool stuff.

Eagle in Trouble?

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Thanks. Definitely, need to hear that one

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Frank and Frans ritual complete. Headed to the beach. Reports to follow.

Good luck!

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Nothing today except for a few croaker at ramp 38. Worked harder on catching a buzz than any fish. Tomorrow is probably more of the same.

Based on Red Drum, they were catching spinner sharks off the point if you wanted to mess around with something bigger

Haven't even seen the ocean today. Damn hungover dumbasses...

Hit ramp 38 today. Caught about a thousand small croaker and one tiny whiting. Fun and fast paced action, but sure would love to tangle with something larger. Trying to convince these jackasses to hit the point tomorrow.

Update: got to the house about an hour ago, 3 lizard fish- two on gulp shrimp 1 on 5in swimming mullet, all three on 1/4 jig head. One was good size (bout 14 inches) even tho I hate catching them. Had a good bite on drum rig with mullet but no dice. Will continue to update. Our house with the dock is on the Intercoastal waterway

Make sure to sneak out on the dock and vertically jig around the pilings. Reds and blacks hang out there if you have the right dock.

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get some fiddlers and fish them right next to the pilings for sheepshead

if the dock has lights, turn them on at dark and go fish around them a couple hours later

By the way, do any of y'all use popping corks?

Second update: hooked a beast of something on mullet, as soon as it was hooked he ran off about 100yards of line without stopping. Long story short, got impatient and tried to horse it in and he broke my 20lb braid. Started running out of mullet and had to start catching baitfish. So far caught two croaker one good size. Will continue to update and seriously can't thank y'all enough for the tips. Legs for all

Are you using cut mullet or live? Where are you fishing?

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Whole. But small frozen finger mullet. Our house is on route 24 before the bridge into Swansboro. Fishing the sound mainly. Gonna head to the surf this eve. Had a two foot shark get off right at the dock today bout 10:30.

Cool, I know exactly where you are. There should be reds in the marshes in Swansboro. You could have hooked a bull red. Do you have access to a kayak?

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I've thought about hitting up the local kayak rental place and going out for a bit

If you do, I can point you in the right direction.

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I am 0-4 on large stuff. Had my new Penn surf rod rigged up with a whole spot leaned up against my cooler and it got pulled into the sound, gone.... *** puts on cone of shame ***

I had a clients $400 spin combo rigged with a live 9 inch mullet hanging in the back of my boat a few years back. It got ripped out of the boat by either a shark or bull red. I know the feeling...

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Mutton, mutton and more mutton snappers.. That's all I caught at Big Carlos pass today and they were all short. All the rain lately is turning the water nice and brown... Did get to jump a tarpon on the fly when I switched out of conventional stuff, but he broke me off pretty quick being that close to the bridge. Got him to hit a fly I cooked up in my head during a meeting last week, which makes the first tarpon I've got to take a fly I tied, so there's that.

Still searching for a kayak though. All the good reports from around here lately (for the fish I prefer at least) have been from the guys doing mangrove searching in 2-3 feet of water.

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FREE THE "STICK IT IN" CHANT!!!

I bought a Pelican Catch 130 HD recently. I took it out for a short pedal. Pedals took some effort, could turn it pretty quickly, very stable to stand in. Adjusted the pedal tension so hopefully it will be easier to pedal next time out. I will be at the beach over labor day fishing so I can give a better review off that. It's on sale for 1199 at West Marine

Yeah, our budget is less than that Haha. Mostly because I'm going to fix it up with a trolling motor, battery, fish finder, etc. Found a nice Vibe sea ghost 130 for $550 that I'm fixin to check out this weekend.

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Maybe you should check out Gheenoes since thats what theyre made for more or less. We have a big ass old town flat back which is a poor mans gheenoe basically we use for running tidal rivers with a trolling motor and a bunch of batteries since its wide and stable.
Otherwise I run a Nucanoe which also has a flat back for a motor mount but theyre not the cheapest option and with all that can get a bit tight. But theyre awesome stable boats well made as well, only issue is they sit high up on the water so in windy conditions its slow moving.

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I wanted a gheenoe BAD but she is saying that after we're done paying for the wedding we can look at boats. The good about that- boat. Fishing spots galore. The bad- gotta find one that fits the 3 kids we have too, so a poling skiff is out. Which is the kind of fishing I do (not a deep water guy at all). So enter the kayak option. I can go skinny on weekends where we dont have our kids from previous marriages and she doesnt want to go out, but we still have something to use as a family.

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Really interested in the Vibe take on the pedal drive I'm not far from caving and buy one in a few years to limit the amount of paddle use and to help hold the boat and keep the rod in my hand more. Would love a hobie but its too much so the price of the Vibe isnt bad but hows the pedal drive work on it?

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Just got round to looking it up and saw the model and was like how the hell did they get away with that but now I see how. Hopefully the patent dying helps bring some of these prices down the mirage drive looks great but the money they ask is stupid. 5k for a fishing kayak? Id rather go with a cheaper brand like Vibe or a used hobie but even then the used hobies are still really high priced.

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I'm in St Augustine. I have a very lightly used 12' Nucanoe Frontier (2016) with 2 seats that I'm looking to get rid of that will do exactly what you want. I also have a like new TM (used once) that will fit it.

If you are interested, I'm sure we can work something out.

Shoot me an email with what you're thinking price wise. I'll have to run it past the wife to be since we're paying for our wedding ourselves (holy shit these things are expensive). I like the looks of those alot and hear great things about them.

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Jackson kayaks are hard to go wrong with. The bonafide ones are good bang for the buck as well.

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I finally got out on the New River. It's only the second time I've been out this year due to work, the kids sports and other things out of my control. I landed around 40 smallmouth, watched two giant muskie chasing fish, and most importantly I got to spend some time with my dad on the river.

Nice fish and as always time with the family on the water is the best!

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What section did you float? Above Claytor Lake is finally getting to normal levels and I'm getting good reports.

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I fished below the lake from Radford to Peppers Ferry. The water was clear and level was great. I mostly fish from below the dam to Pembroke. I haven't done much above the lake but I'd like to try out Foster Falls soon.

Foster Falls is a great float but it gets a lot of pressure. I've guided on both the last two springs. I prefer 100 to Alisonia, the next 6 mile section.

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Fished from McCoy to Pembroke thursday through friday good numbers and some bigger fish around next year I may try a different stretch to mix it up. Did whitehorne to eggleston last year and that had too much flat slow water and in the wind was a pain in my big boat.

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Yea, if you hit a strong wind blowing back up the river it's a terrible float. Once I ran into a storm and me paddling was pointless because I was still going back up the river. I'm not sure if they are still strict on the no parking beside the railroad crossing but there's never enough parking at Whitethorne either.

No hassle going through the Arsenal?

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You can float through there without any hassle as long as you don't try to get off on the river bank. There are a few sandbars you can stop at and nobody says anything. If anyone on here floats it though watch out for the big set of falls halfway through and stay to the far right. It'll be just past the pump house and a smaller set of falls. Here is what they look like but from the upper side you can't see them until it's too late.

The shoot on the river left is runable too if you're looking for more excitement...safe bet is through the river right but at lower water you'll be walking it.

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I always went left in the set of shoals right at the pumphouse and then worked back right to go around the falls. You're generally walking it even in normal flows unless you're in a skinny boat. I've always had good luck at the pumphouse intake too and have seen some really nice fish pulled out of there. I love floating that stretch of water and it's my favorite float if you have the time.

Yeah there's a left shoot on the second set too at least when there's water flowing it was the only way to get down that with dragging the raft/clients through the shoal. In my kayak I generally just walked the right side. Yes there are some good fish in there caught my biggest musky right between the second shoal an the RR bride

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You'd be right, sir. I always took my big raft through on the left. It's a pretty big drop, and the entrance is kind of small, but it's clean of rocks through the chute and in the pool you drop into. I'd always been advised to go right, but once I found the left run, I never went right again, including in some pretty low water. It looks daunting if you've not run it, and my friend Jim Richmond did it once in his big raft, but wouldn't do it again. For me it was a small rush, and my clients liked it too. And over the years, we did catch some nice fish over there once dropping through.

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Yeah that was the very first "rapid" I ran in a raft....went ahead and tackled shumate on my second trip learned by trial of fire.

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Shumate almost got me. I hadn't run that lower section much and took some guys on a late fall trip. The water was rock bottom and they weren't running at the dam enough to help. Got to Shumate and saw that the left side was nearly dry. Didn't want to do all that walking and dragging, older clients, too, so I just ran right to see what it looked like over there. The entire river was funneling through one hole in the rocks, but dead center of the hole in the pool below was a huge boulder. The force of the river sucked me in and I hung up on a rock about 15' from dropping in the hole. We were good and stuck, and it was obvious that we had no choice but to go through and hope for the best, so we stowed all the gear, rods and reels, and made a plan. I would get out, shove the boat off the rock, jump back in. The guy in front would be holding the oars, hand them to me, I figured I'd have one stroke to straighten the boat before being sucked in, and less than a second after that to take the full force of a head on collision with that big boulder. That is precisely what happened. My Maravia was a hell of a river raft, and the day had turned cloudy and cool which deflated the chambers a bit. The front of the boat hit the rock so hard it bent almost to the front client's nose, took the force and bounced us off as I oared around backwards into the clear.
Harrowing run, scared the bejeesus out of us, then all agreed that if we could do it again, we would...what a rush. Two things I learned...one was to pay more attention to river levels down there, but the other is that with three educated older experienced fishermen, me a paid guide, none of us thought to don the life jackets. We all agreed that in any craft other than the raft, we'd have been toast as there was no way to avoid the rock and the flow through there was unreal. I could see life and limb kinda damage.
Then, there's the Narrows Falls past Wolf Creek.

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I like Narrows, its' fairly easy to get through in a raft. Back pedal after the first rock back towards center and then just kinda drop through slowly. Shumate can get sketchy, if I remember right the normal water chute has rebar like right off the line.

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First time I ran it was in my friend Chuck Kraft's raft and he ran it backwards. I did that once for fun, but agree, just ferry left and drop on in. Still had to back pedal to keep away from those ledge rocks in the middle, but yeah, the Narz was fun.

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I think you and I and a few other people on this thread could go on for days about rowing the river

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And I do go on, don't I?

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Exactly what I always do. Left at the pumphouse as long as there is enough water to not drag then stay right on the next bigger set. We got adventurous once and didn't go right and well, we lost some fishing gear to the river.

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A musky lives in the hole on the far right.

I'm starting to shake!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

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Be careful out there guys and take a PLB if you're going offshore. The local authorities are requesting anybody with a boat capable of going 40+ miles out to help in the search. I believe the most recent search grounds are between Jax and Savannah, though the grids have gone as north as Charleston SC.

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Yikes. I hope those guys are ok. Getting lost at sea sounds scary as shit

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Yes. They've found their fishing bag today. Two guys are experienced and should know SAR, hoping they threw it out to create a debris field.

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Still lost out there. There's an incredible force of private boats out of Jacksonville, rented planes, an volunteers. They're looking for $$ to compensate fuel and supplies for volunteers.

https://clear-give.com/egive3/index.cfm?page=donationDetail&itemID=30553...
(kind of an interesting url but it's legit. you can go through www.jfrd.com to navigate to the same donation page)

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In case anyone is using this as a source of information for this story. USCG is officially calling of the search at sundown today.

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I am tired, hungry, and covered in grease, sweat and bug bites from working all day today but my boat trailer has two new hubs on it. I was able to buy some special files to salvage the threads on the spindle on the axle and repair it so that I could get a new hub on it and new hardware. The wheel that flew off on the highway is useless but oh well. Maybe I can get the brand new tire back off of it onto my old steel rim. I'll get to return a few parts and some money back. BoatUS said they might cover the $300 towing cost to get the boat and trailer from Lightfoot to Richmond last night, which would be amazing. We shall see. Very long day but at least it's back together (I think) and it could have been more expensive with a new axle. Guide trips scheduled for Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

Hoping I get to go fly fishing for redfish in NC next week.

Musky, would you like to place a wager on who (me or you) has what happen to them next? Others are welcome to join in on this bet.

*edited to be more positive now that I've had a Snickers bar and Budweiser to get rid of my Hanger. Thanks for putting up with me.

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Keep your head up bud. Boats suck, trailers suck but its the cost to get out and do the fun stuff.

Grease gun. Had the same issue with my old one spent an extra $15 to get the good one from the hardware store it's been in the back of my pick up since and still works.

We need to meet up in NC or northern sc and fish soon.

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Thanks. Yes we do.

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Let me know when you've got a free weekend. I'll trailer up or we can figure something out

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Sept or October. Your boat would be good for chasing false albacore at Cape Lookout. Mine might be sunk by then...

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Should have free time either or... don't a thing about falsies but would love to target some

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Good thing I know a lot about them

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Musky, would you like to place a wager on who (me or you) has what happen to them next? Others are welcome to join in on this bet.

Yes but it must be a major event such as a trailer failure and leaving the road or an axle being ripped off.

What area of Richmond are you in? I'm off of 301 north at Rural Point.

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Grove Avenue just west of the Museum District. I'm the guy that tells everyone to get off my lawn during the Greek Festival.

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I'm told the redfish are in the sounds in OBX. Brian Horsely crushed some huge bulls today outside of Oregon Inlet. There are bulls moving through the Neuse. Puppy Drum are also beginning to show in upper ends of the Bay.

On another note, has anyone ever heard of Cedar Key, Florida? It's in the Gulf and looks like a mini Key West. Apparently Jimmy Buffett has played there a few times. The outlying keys around it look absolutely fishy as hell.

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I've heard of it, but only as part of the NWR there. You are right though, it looks really fishy. Maybe I'll have to take a weekend trip in late September.....

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Yes. Been there but haven't fished it. It is famous for excellent fishing, excellent scalloping, yellow flies,and lower units left on unmarked shallow rock outcrops. It is nothing like Key West...absolutely nothing.

I know the refuge manager, FWC has a very nice lab facility there, and the head of IFAS has a house there.

Interesting, thanks!

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I've been looking for a good cobia/heavy inshore rod to hold a 5500 or 6500 reel and cast out live eels or to big drum. I'm not that familiar with Shimano rods - does anybody have a recommendation?

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Those Terez rods are top of the line as far as factory rods. Teramar's if you want to save $40.

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Trolling motor is finally fixed. Water had gotten into the head, which John at Motortech in Suffolk said is super rare. Great service from him, he said he wanted me to be happy with Minn Kota. Would highly recommend him. Also, my trailer made it down there and back without incident.

Guiding tomorrow on the Mataponi.

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Update: the surf has not been kind, threw a sting silver and knock of kastmaster two consecutive days with no bites. Tried gulp shrimp and swimming mullet also no bites. Hooked a good sized Ray last night but he sucked himself to the bottom (off our dock in the sound). This frustrated me enough that I went out and bought a new surf rod/jogging rod, penn fierce 2 combo, 30% off so I said screw it. Caught me a few spot to use as bait for this evening so really praying I catch somethin good. Question: do drum bite on spot? I'd think so but I know y'all will know. Thanks in advance

French would know what drum prefer best but I've heard good stuff about spot for drum bait

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dunno, but they'll hit quartered blue crabs

I use spot heads as bait during the fall. Chunked mullet should work fine as well, but part of the game is dealing with rays and sharks.

Fishing sound side may change the dynamic a little. Most of the best drum fishing I have participated in usually comes on strong chop and onshore winds.

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You're the man French. Thanks to all for the quick replies. Will post tonight's results later.

I don't know as much about sound. In the surf fish outflows (rip currents going out) I doubt there are many big drum around, but fishfinders with 8/0 hooks for big drum and sharks, 5/0 with a lighter leader for slot drum. Fresher the chunks/heads, the better. Best days will be when the wind is coming off the water. If it is calm, use a light spinning rod and fish gulp for trout, slot drum, and flounder.

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Aight so update (***i am buzzing hard and am not a good saltwater fisherman so yeah***) French I cannot thank u and everyone else for their tips I tried HARD but again I'm a well read novice at best. So, wife an I went out today on kayaks, had a great time saw dolphins and a bald eagle. I fished white gulp shrimp and white swimming mullet and got a spot and lizard fish (please, people who are quality fishers do NOT take my lack of success as a sign of what's biting) we did not fish hard nor travel far as my wife is pregnant (12 weeks!!!!!) but had a great time!! And I cannot thank the TKP community enough for y'alls tips!!!!

Again, HokieFlyGuy and everyone else thank u so much. I had a blast on my vacation and caught a ton thanks to u all!!!!!! I read all of your all's fishing updates and fished accordingly based on yalls reports and drank a piss ton on my dock and, for all intense and purposes, did well!!! Again thank u all who replied to my questions, I have one more day and can't wait to continue fishing. Thanks!!!

Dog days of summer are tough for catching fish in the surf, particularly drum. You're more likely to get one on grass flats or somewhere on the back side, like a channel, drop off, etc. Blues and spanish can be caught in the surf, spanish particularly early in the morning.

Another thing for you to consider, there is a really good trout bite going on down there. Dock lights at night should hold fish. You could also throw around docks with those swimming mullet during the day and potentially find trout and redfish.

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Flyguy's right about the mullet and the reds and trouts, but they also love those Gulp shrimp and will respond well to Gulp Jerk Shad on a jig head or even on an offset worm hook, unweighted, if they're up in the skinny and weeds.
Heading out for flounder again, hoping for a good bite and off the water before the cooker heats up too much out there. Looking forward to a break in the heat, which may come this weekend. Report to come.

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Question for you, French. It's still nearly a couple of months away, but I'm starting to think about that surf fishing tournament I'm fishing in October in Nags Head. I'm wondering if it would be worth it to catch up some spots now and freeze their heads to take with me? Don't know how they freeze, and I know fresh is always better, but just wondering. Since length is important to score in the competition, a nice drum would be a good entry, though I know it'll be tough to get one in the regular beach surf (as opposed to pier or point fishing), and I'd love an edge.
Edit: How far back do you go from the eyes on those heads? Guts in?, etc.

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Cant imagine that wouldnt be a bad idea I've done that in the past for shark fishing whole spot and croaker and they still hold alot of the scent and blood frozen.

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I caught my drum last fall off of frozen finger mullet that my buddy had cast netted a month before. I wouldn't leave the guts in. That shortens how long your bait is good for when fresh. I would get just the head. As you know the bigger the bait the harder it is to cast farther which is a big deal when fishing from the surf.

rRight you are about the casting. Truth is, I don't expect that much of a chance for a drum anyway, just fishing the beach in assigned beats, but you never know. With only one rod per person, it would be taking a chance vs scoring points, which I've been told are awarded to fish 11" and over, so it might be that catching foot long blues for sure would trump catching the big red, but I imagine the team leader will have a strategy for us to follow. There will be 420 fishermen in this thing, a three day affair. I have no idea what to expect.

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Frozen spot heads > nothing. Lots of guys vacuum seal whole spot and freeze them so they have bait.

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Blues will eat the spot too, but fresh mullet or bunker is always better if you can find it.

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Another interesting day on the water. Drifted up three flounder, all shorts, in one of my usual spots. Got a nice trout there as well. Slow otherwise, though, with the wind fighting the tide and making for no speed in the drift. Went out to a newish oyster bed and got into a veritable nursery of small fish. Black sea bass, stripers, bluefish, oyster toads and a couple of flounder. One of them went almost 22". So I got four short flounder, my buddy only got one, but he could take his home.

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Thanks for the report. 22" is a damn nice flounder.

It seemed to be the only grown up fish on the oyster bar we'll forevermore now call "The Nursery", but it was certainly a welcome surprise.

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Caught a little shark and blue tonight off the dock in the sound. Going kayaking in the morn, will post updates. As always any tips are welcomed with open arms.

Just got an email from my New River guide friend, Jim Richmond, and he reported that he'd been out the last 5 days and that the bug bite is as good as it's been all year. His clients are getting numbers and quality.
He also said that he took Willis and Brock Hoffman out a couple weeks ago and said that Ryan said Brock was a definite upgrade at center and they're all hoping his eligibility gets straightened out. Assuming they are both on the field, it was a good move to take your center fishing, right?

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Good to know, I need to catch a smallmouth this summer. This may be the second summer in a row that I don't fish the New (besides guiding) and that just makes me sad.

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Hoffman did not capsize the raft!

"Hey Bud, you wont have to hold the opponent to 17 points anymore."

Jim's not a little guy either. I can only imagine it was a hard day's rowing for him.

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Fished the Mattaponi yesterday with a client from Missouri, told me had 10 plus years of fly fishing experience. Guy could barely cast the 8 weight 20 feet. Maybe he did have 10 years experience but man, it must have been all done with poor technique.

Bending wrist = poor casting.

I finally got him to cast about 30 feet and work on strip setting. Water was off color but fishable in spots. He missed several fish including two bowfins, one of which hooked up. Ended up with 4 bass to the net, biggest 3.5 pounds. They love orange and pink worms and worm flies in that river.

Today fished the Bay. Put in at Gloucester with two hours prior to the high to fish a not so secret flat. The water on it was a light chocolate milk from the south wind. Headed a bit further south and found clean water, fished grass and found bait, but no fish for three hours. Briefly searched 7-8 buoys for cobia, nobody home. Went back to one good rip that held fish in July last time I fished it. Client caught 7 striped bass to 16", a 12" silver rat red and a nice 17" speck, all on Electric mullet colored Clouser minnow, which has been the best color fly for me this summer in the salt from VA to NC. I'd expect the grub version of it works just as well. Storms brewing, we headed to the North and fished a few docks Ifish suggested. No love from anyone but the water was kind of dirty.... south wind I'd guess as the cause. Incoming T-storms drove us off at 6:45 p.m. Good day on the water, patience was a virtue and looking forward to fishing with this guy again. We have a lot in common. So refreshing when you get a good client.

Canceled trip on the Mataponi tomorrow due to high thunderstorm forecast. Might fish this weekend, cannot decide. Still need to fix my damn trailer lights!

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Freefly dropped their pants line yesterday and I'm tempted but for now I have my blood and guts columbia pants which are heaven. Also curious what the pants are like compared to their shirts.

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