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Now that would really be something worth looking into. Regardless of whether our rate of injury is higher or lower than average, looking at how long it takes our players to return to the field after an injury and comparing it to other programs would be research worth doing. If VT has players returning to the field 10% sooner than other programs, then there's obviously a problem. Some players heal quickly. You don't get a whole squad of them.

Still, that won't apply to Marshawn, because now it'll be nearly two years post-injury before he takes a snap for us. That's definitely not rushing back. Maybe looking at if VT has a greater than average rate of reinjury would be the way to guide the research. Either way, there might be some real statistical support for what you're saying. Then again, there might not.

I just know from my own personal experience following this team, when the injuries hit, they hit so hard it always feels like someone MUST be at fault. I remember a few years ago when we lost two or three different players over the course of the season to lisfranc sprains. There was a general outcry of, what is the coaching staff doing wrong to cause so many of this weird-ass injury? The answer, of course, was nothing. I don't think I've heard the term "lisfranc sprain" since that season. At the time, though, it felt like someone on the staff must have been going all "Kathy Bates in Misery" on the roster's feet while they slept.

That's tricky, just isolating Marshawn's injury. This is a kid who last year tried to return to camp like a week after hernia surgery. I don't know if anyone or anything could have prevented him from risking reinjury through massive effort in rehabbing. But did Shane perhaps fail to temper the risk of reinjury by not being emphatic that Marshawn was going to sit out this year? Absolutely, I can see that. It's not at all implausible.

My comment was more in regards to you talking about how this program treats injuries in general. I don't see this program jeopardizing players by rushing them back too soon. I do see us giving players a go when they aren't 100%. That's football. But the staff makes the call to shut it down when it's clear an injury is more than just an issue of playing through pain. Not that I think you're implying it, but I don't get a sense that the staff is negligent in protecting injured players or anything like that.

Like I said either right above or below this (it runs together) there simply comes a point where a player returning from ACL surgery gets into the type of work that risks reinjuring a reconstructed knee. We don't even know the extent of the reinjury, or the nature of the surgery Marshawn will have. Five minutes on Google uncovered this article from Time that says younger patients are more likely to need multiple surgeries to repair an ACL tear. So Shai and Marshawn both needing a second surgery is not, on its face, out of the ordinary.

We can bemoan the state of injury (and reinjury) in our program all we want to. God knows weve been smacked in the face with enough bad luck on that front to be a little bitter. But unless we know the baseline injury rate for P5 programs, we have no way of knowing if we're above average or below. What feels like an overabundance of injuries might actually just be a normal amount of injuries shining a spotlight on our lack of depth.

With an implication that medical staff, S&C staff or the coaches could/should have prevented it. If a player is cleared to return to football activities, at some point they'll get into the stuff that will risk reinjury. And when Shai and Marshawn got to that point, they both reinjured themselves. This could be a sign they were "pushing too hard." It could also be a sign that their knees simply aren't going to heal correctly. That happens.

Sure, they'll whoop it up when Frank dances after a win. Who wouldn't laugh and clap when a Hall of Fame coach does that? It's great for team morale. I love it.

But do you think a lot of the players actually relate to Frank on a personal level? Like come to him with problems about their girlfriends, their families, the one asshole professor nobody can stand? I can imagine those conversations happening a lot in Clemson's locker room. I imagine them becoming rarer in ours as Frank ages and deals with mounting health issues.

It happens. I respected the hell out of my grandparents, but I didn't relate to them. Frank is probably older than a lot of his players' grandparents.

I'm onboard with discontent, but you're kind of all over the place here.

Why aren't back up QB's ready for game action?

Even after Pitt, Motley has a passer rating of 134.62. He's been the only spark on the offense. He's been more than ready to play. Meanwhile, Dwayne Lawson is a true freshman who is in over his head with the system right now.

As well, where are those two and three tight end sets?

We've seen Malleck and Bucky on the field together more often than not, and we do have a 3TE goal line package we've shown in the red zone.

Where is the hurry up offense that helps to befuddle and tire out big boy D's such as Pitt?

We've run no huddle in every game this season. We don't stay in it all game, but we do run it. Running hurry up in a game like we had against Pitt just gets us through the 3 and out that much faster.

And when are we going to end that useless formation shifting? It just wears us out instead and has no one fooled on the other side.

This is just untrue. The pre-snap shifts have had receivers open all season long, and have allowed Motley to post some good passing numbers. It was even working against Pitt. Ford and Phillips were running wide open all day, Motley just didn't have time to find them with pressure all up in his grill all day. The shifts have been working as designed. They should stay.

Frank is 68 and frequently acts ten years older. Dabo is 45 and frequently acts 20 years younger. It's no surprise to me that Dabo is way better at connecting with his players. They feed on his enthusiasm.

Yeah, Brewer would not have fixed the tailback rotation. If anything, him being out has made us appreciate the shortcomings we still have.

IMO, you have to question if the offense would have stalled in the second quarter the way it did with Motley.

This takes nothing away from Motley's monster second half vs ECU. I just have to wonder if Brewer would have built on the 14 points ECU spotted us. Then again, those refs weren't letting us leave with a win. They would have found more bullshit calls to go against Brewer.

We needed one more touchdown in two gsmes. I think Brewer gives us that. Motley has been very good. Brewer is better.

4-1 or 3-2, and a real shot at 5-0 IMO. I think Brewer could have covered the deficiencies of the defense we saw early.

Might have been confusing him with Shai? Obviously it'll just be a redshirt.

Would a medical hardship pave the way to a sixth year of eligibility if Marshawn can't return next season due to the injury? Would a typical redshirt year prevent a sixth year? Maybe this is establishing a paper trail to prove this season was lost to injury? Is that how it works?

I'm confused by this statement. Do you just mean lack of depth, or are you seeing something in Ford and Phillips' technique that you think is bad?

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