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Most specialists require a referral on a lot of health plans.
And I think that sentence is indicative of the perception problem. A psychiatrist shouldn't be considered a specialist. A psychiatrist is really more of a "general practitioner of the mind," if you will. It's a medical doctor who approaches primarily mental symptoms. Yes it requires more schooling that an actual GP doctor, but that's in large part because medical science has a strange body/mind duality to it, so that a basic medical school education won't provide a doctor with the foundation he/she will need to address mental health issues.
Ad for the rest of your post, you and I are of like mind, I believe, but that is a much broader, much deeper conversation, and I don't think this is the proper forum.
FWIW (and I'm not the mod) I take responsibility for posting the original thread (though a gun rights discussion was hardly my intent) but I have to say, I'm kind of amazed at how civil and apolitical this discourse is at the moment. I can't think of another website where there are obviously people of differing views as there are in this thread, who have managed to have this discussion without a single insult being hurled.
I think you're talking past my post. I predicated my statement on the acknowledgement that there will always be people who kill just to kill. No gun laws will ever fix that.
To an extent, I agree with your solution, with one caveat. Since you are basing the solution on a well-armed, well-trained citizenry, (among other factors, such as the embrace of mental health services) would you then also support a conscription into an actual standing militia, akin to what Switzerland does? Have firearms issued directly from the government, military training provided free of charge, mandatory period target practice, etc? The Swiss model is the most tenable option in my mind for a "peace and social order through an armed populace" approach.
Are you this smart about EVERYTHING?
Great points, though it's established case law that the government (both state and federal) has the right to prohibit gun sales to some citizens, and also that mental health professionals have to report violent mental illness patients to the state, who are then prohibited from buying guns. So like 90% of what we're talking about doing is already legally established. The issue would be if the names on the list were made public. But so long as the reason for inclusion on the list is not provided, and especially if a person can be voluntarily added to the list, then the privacy concerns are actually pretty low.
I assumed by "government employees" he meant "government employees with clearance." If you think government employees with clearance can't be fired, you're quite wrong.
It's a question of scope. If forced to choose, would you rather have a paranoid schizophrenic running around with an M-80 or a thermonuclear device?
There's always gonna be people who kill people just for shiggles. There's plenty of evil in the world. I'd rather have a madman go postal with a hunting knife than a semiautomatic rifle, every time.
And just to be clear, I'm totally cool with responsible, law-abiding citizens owning guns. The discussion has to be keeping them out of the hands of people who plan shit like this.
There are states where private sellers aren't required to run a background check. Other than that, I think you're pretty much correct on the process.
To start, psychiatric services should be as accessible on any other service on health insurance plans. There should never be a requirement to get a referral to see a psychiatrist. This should be federally mandated.
Furthermore, beyond the psychiatric services, which frequently focus on finding the proper psychoactive medication for treatment, counseling services through a licensed clinical social worker (LCSW) should also be covered by all insurance plans.
Both of the above should be provided at low to no cost to low income patients, in the same vein as free clinics.
Right now, the number one "treatment" option for the mentally ill is prison. There is no system in place to attempt to rehabilitate the criminally insane, and worse yet, there is no system in place to intercept people who are prone to violent acts before they strike.
Right now if a man were to walk into a police station and say, "I'm having these terrible thoughts and urges to harm people on a mass scale, and I'm afraid I'm going to act on them," the most that could happen is a 72 hour medical observation. After that, if the person wants to remain in restrictive, in-patient treatment to safeguard themselves, they will be charged for it as a medical service. This type of service is covered by almost no insurance plans, and can skyrocket into the hundreds of thousands of dollars within a few months. Assuming, that is, that the person can find a facility in the cash-strapped, threadbare mental health system in this country with the space and resources to accept them.
We currently have an entirely reactionary response to the types of disorders that lead to these events. That has to change if we are to survive as a nation. This cannot continue.
It would have to be tied to more than a name. There are tons of people who cannot fly in this country because their name matches a name on the No Fly list. But I agree, HIPPA should not be an obstacle. The database would either return an OK or a No Gun Purchase Allowed result. No reason to need explanation for the merchants as to why the sale is prohibited. And people should be able to voluntarily add themselves to the database if they want. Ties into my comment below about it being too damn hard to get help if you're afraid you might do something like this. At the very least, in a moment of clarity, a person with a mental illness should be able to say, "Don't let me buy a gun."
The idea that we can't/shouldn't have a database because it provides a hack target is a non-starter. Everything is a hack target today.
The solution is anonymity on why a name was added to the list. No reason we can't just have a list that says "these people can't buy guns." List ex-cons, anyone with a mental illness, and any other reason a person couldn't legally purchase a firearm together, with no justification given. Those that maintain the database would have access to that info, not the merchants. Access to the database would be kept confidential under a multitude of laws. And have a way for someone to apply to be removed from the list. It's doable, it just requires a serious, grown-up, non-partisan discussion.
6/2/3
Officially the weirdest damn thing I've seen today.
Thank you so, so much for sharing this. You are absolutely correct, the state of mental health services in America isn't just sad, it's dangerous. There is nothing embarrassing about having a mental health issue any more than there's anything embarrassing about having cancer. But unfortunately not enough people understand this.
I'm so glad you had the support system in place to work through your darkness. People in that place need support. Not judgment, not pity, not being told to suck it up. I'm glad you had that. I wish more people did.
In Kansas City for a work safety event. Just got done eating at Fiorella's Jack Stack (the Freight House location on 22nd). Allow me to say up front, going into the restaurant, of the four main staples of barbecue (Kansas City, Memphis, Texas pit, and Carolina) Kansas City has always been my least favorite. Of course, least favorite barbecue style is like saying least favorite sexual position, so take it for what that's worth.
Had the crown prime beef ribs, which is what Jack Stack is famous for.
Holy shit. Holy mother of God. Sweet sheeba.
The only way I can explain it is, it's like a point cut brisket and a beef shortrib got drunk one night, and nine months later this happened. Absolute melt in your mouth perfection. Two bones probably rendered sixteen ounces of meat. The smoke ring went all the way to the bone in places, and unlike all other KC style BBQ I've ever had, the bark on this was strong enough to stand on its own. No need for sauce.
I sampled some of what everyone else was having, and everything else was meh, exactly my experience with KC BBQ. But if you are in Kansas City, you MUST try the crown prime beef ribs at Jack Stack.
I consider St Louis BBQ a poor imitation of Kansas City style. I know that's not a universally shared opinion, and the sparerib cut is named after St Louis, but I haven't found anything to distinguish KC from StL style, expect KC is a hair better.
Plus I'm a Cubs fan. Fuck St Louis.
Yeah those last two tipped the scales over to hatin' on.
if we can establish the run and shutdown their run we still have an All-ACC caliber receiver to cover
This statement is equally true for both teams.
Yeah I legged it too. This isn't insensitive, its just true.
This. It's time to kick open the doors of anonymity on the internet and shine the fucking light of justice on these assholes. Fuck 4chan.
Pat Narduzzi clips coupons, which is fiscally responsible and budget conscious, but takes slightly longer to check out while you are waiting in line behind him.
I just gotta point this out.
You said:
But based on French and Mason film reviews, it looks more like the O-line has improved a ton and the tailbacks are benefiting from the O-Line improvement more than they have actually improved themselves.
And then Joel said:
The profile credits the offensive line for the first five yards of a carry
The running backs are averaging 5.0 YPC.
You, sir, are a goddam genius.
Yeah they won't do that well when they face us because we have a stout run def...oh.
All aboard the Sooner Schooner
Dawgy dawgy world
Michael Brewer's old stomping grounds
Ole Miss (not to be confused with new miss; that would be Caitlyn Jenner)
Aaron Morehead's new stomping grounds
Klempsun
Have we still been using VanDyke as the stand up end in the bear like we did against OSU Labor Day, or did we switch back to Dadi standing up? If it's still VD, that's another change I'd like to see. Dadi crushed it at that spot. RVD was a step down.
I read the article on Chris Mintz.
I thought, "There is Umpqua's Liviu Librescu." I'm very glad Mr. Mintz survived. I hope he can work through the trauma of what he experienced.