Illinois Hokie's Recent Comments

But hey, how bout we play your conjecture game?

Seems to me like all I said above was as follows: we straight up beat OSU, luck was no more a factor than in any football game, Foster has the best D in college ball to stop Urban Meyer's system, and we were better than them on the field.

Where is the irrational argument in there? Oh wait, there isn't one.

Did I say anything about us being able to beat Alabama to play for a natty? No, that was the straw man you propped up. We match up poorly against what Alabama does on offense. We've seen that twice. But we weren't talking about Bama, so please stay on subject.

Point is, after OSU, injuries and QB growing pains made us lose five games we could have won. We got blown off the field once. We were annoyingly close to having an amazing season. But we didn't. We finished 7-6.

And one of those seven wins was kicking the shit out of one of the teams that's about to play for the national championship.

The only way I see Frank getting fired is something on the order of back to back 4-8 seasons. I don't see that happening.

I did believe that this was a good opportunity for Frank to hang it up, on his own terms. But he's chosen not to, and I will support him as our coach for as long as he's here.

I'm glad to see a six figure salary for Bud, if only to make a statement.

If guys who recruit well get pay bumps, Shane is making bank.

Every successive statement from Whit makes me like him more. We are building something special here.

That moment when you realize Chris Petersen left Boise State, the day AFTER seeing Bryan Harsin on the sideline at the Fiesta Bowl. Petersen is the poster child for generic football coach. (Harsin too, apparently.)

Is it possible that some of these recruits committed assuming a coaching change? Sounds nuts, but keeping Golden might be costing the program in recruiting.

Dude's had his fifteen minutes. Tried to get everyone to believe he has connections in the athletics dept when it's now blatantly obvious that his only connection is his rectum to the keyboard.

I suggest we make it a house rule that the second post in all double posts is edited to be a line from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

Read this and immediately ran to the recruiting website to see who our four new cornerback recruits were...

I gotta get down with the lingo.

Here's what I believe.

Immediately following the game against us, OSU averaged 56 points a game over its next 4 games, and proceeded to average just shy of 48 points per game for the entire rest of the season. There was no gradual improvement, they were that good literally the next week after playing us. So to argue the improvement angle is to accept that their improvement was like flipping a switch their very next game. I have no empirical reason to believe that's the case.

I also have no reason to think that if we played tomorrow, Bud's defense would suddenly be woefully less successful in containing their offense as it was in early September.

I believe we went into the Horseshoe and straight up beat the team that's about to play for the national championship. I don't think luck had any more to do with that win than luck factors into any football game. I think Bud Foster's defense might be the best designed and best prepared defense in college football to stop what Urban Meyer tries to do on offense.

I also think that we have endured so many deflating losses to elite competition that a segment of our fanbase has developed Stockholm syndrome. We've become so accustomed to losing to top teams that when we finally beat one, we have to rationalize it by saying that they weren't ACTUALLY that good when we played them. Some people just can't process the fact that we can beat anyone.

They were that good, we were better, and after that game our seasons took divergent paths. That's what I believe.

beating a dead horse

You're entitled to your opinion.

But by your own admission, there is no empirical data to support the claim of a significant offensive improvement by the Buckeyes subsequent to playing us.

"I find your lack of faith disturbing." - Lord Vader

What it comes down to is, ESPN sells a product. And their product isn't college football. It's hype. They package hyperbole for the consumer. In many ways, how ESPN packages their college football is reminiscent of how Vince McMahon used to hype up wrestlers. The marquee games are battles between two behemoths whose power cannot be comprehended by mere mortals. The narrative doesn't work if ESPN admits that a national championship caliber team can be beaten by a 7-6 ACC team with a losing record in conference, so they have to explain the loss away and illegitimize it. OSU had to have a bad night against us, because if you admit that a 7-6 squad can present a matchup nightmare for a playoff team it deflates some of the breathless hyperbole.

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