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It has to be part of the discussion, and I'm sure Franklin knows this.

Don't know how to post photos from my phone but here's the link.

https://imgur.com/a/q9RhvLM

Buddy sent me a screen shot from TX A&M message board that said

Can't reveal my source (an assistant coach at another school) stated the following:
A. He was asked if he would be willing to be OC at either Arkansas or Virginia Tech by Franklin. There is a bidding war going on for James Franklin between those two schools. If Arkansas doesn't get Franklin they most likely will hire the Memphis coach. Looks like Traylor has been approached as well.

I have no problem with VT paying top dollar for a premium headcoach, coordinators, and staff.

But I'm really hoping that we don't arrive at a top dollar package with Franklin, and then hand it off for a less than premium coaching package.

I'm really hoping we come out of this with what we're all hoping to get.

If we pay what is for us blue chip money, I'd like to see a blue chip staff. Most importantly, I'd like to see coordinators and a head coach who can coach and recruit, and overall run a high quality organization.

Mostly we have to be in the top handful of ACC teams, beat UVa every year, win the games we're supposed to win, and maybe win some we're not.

im a hard YES on fitz if things fall through. its like those 80s teen dramas where the lead falls for the frumpy girl who cleans up well.

the man has almost 2 decades power conference experience, multiple 10 win seasons

im a chapo guy and justin jackson went on the podcast and had nothing but good words for him, hes a players guy and all for them getting theirs (he pushed his players to unionize back in the day)

im not worried too much now in the NIL era. i want a coach and i want a general manager, keep them mutually exclusive.

the only question is cultural: hes blue collar af but can chicagoland guy fit in appalachia?

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Fair points. Hard to know what translates better. Big time P2/P4 experience on staff. Or consistently successful head coaching experience at multiple locations and levels.

JMU also has a really good infrastructure in place too, so that helps, but Cignetti did pilfer the best parts of that roster when he left for Indiana.

I'll drop a ten spot on Nov. 30th

We announce Franklin the day after we beat UVA

7 BYU @ 8 TahTech (Tt -10.5)

Maryland @ Rutgers (DMV -1.5)

Iowa State @ TCU (Frogs -6.5)

9 Oregon @ 20 IOWA (OR -5.5)

Stanford @ unc (unc -9.5)

LSU @ 4 ALABAMA (bam -10.5)

Yeah, hard disagree on your first point. If he had the same results there as he has had at JMU there's no difference. If Ga Southern is beating up on the Sun Belt the last two years like JMU, it's the same solid 16 year resume over four divisions of college football. They are the same conference, playing the same teams. We were big on Napier/Louisiana last time around. Same conference, same schedules. We're discussing Huff/Marshall and Southern Miss. Same conference, same schedules. Helton/Western Kentucky, similar conference, similar schedule. Sumrall at Tulane I'll grant is a better conference and schedule.

I absolutely agree with your second point though, but there are arguments that none of the coaches have evidence of that outside of Franklin, at least for me. Could Mullen do it, sure. Is his time at Miss St evidence of that. Not for me. Ten years ago is a different era than today. And being off the sidelines for a few years and having that last gig fall apart like it did, I don't think that's really moving the PR needle. Good move? I'd argue it could be, but real evidence it's going to work, nah, i'm just as worried about him as any of the others. Especially when it comes to the portal game and the new normal for roster building. Is that something he can consistently do at a VT? One season at UNLV where the combined record of the teams he has beaten is 17-34, with Miami (OH) the only one with a winning record at 5-4 doesn't tell us a whole lot.

Could Diaz do it, sure. But he underperformed at Miami, and his wins at Duke are against all under 500 ACC teams and Elon, so there is literally nothing but coordinator track record to point to. And there's no real evidence that Campbell, Shane, or Fleck make Tech relevant either because as good a job as they are doing or have done at Iowa St, SC or Minnesota, none are challengers for conference championships or playing in anything more than December bowl games with 7-6 or 8-5 records most years. That's the only P4 coaches i've heard about, and none of them scream surefire success at VT to me.

All other candidates i've heard are G5 candidates like Chesney.

That's not saying that I wouldn't be happy with any of these guys (but please no Shane as it just seems like it wouldn't end well), i'm just saying there's only a handful of coaches who really have an argument that there is evidence they can make us relevant, and outside of Franklin, i think all are currently in jobs that are considered above VT, and if they leave those, they aren't coming to VT. I could certainly be missing someone though.

But outside of all that, as i was saying in my previous post, i think the calculus here is to get a proven winner and program builder that can raise money, because i think college football is more about buying a roster than the basic recruiting a roster of the past. As a fan, i don't know much about the second part, but i can see a coach's resume as far as wins and losses.

At the end of the day though, I'm just guessing like the rest of you, while the committee is making a giant bet. Fingers crossed they make the right one!

Why did my mind immediately go to this meme when I read the title?

That's a shame cuz Yarn is like an infinite encyclopedia of every gif you could possibly ever imagine. If you get that working, we would be eternally grateful.

Other websites? There are more?