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The Chris Bickell '97 Head Football Coach Chode

Yes, it still amuses me.

another JMU Head Football Coach Factory product

I know Cig is awesome, but...

  • Mike Houston (2016-2018) was fired from ECU and is now a volunteer coach at Clemson
  • Everett Withers (2014-2015) went 7-28 as HC at Texas State after leaving JMU and, after a lot of one year gigs, is currently unemployed
  • Mickey Matthews (1999-2013) has had 2 gigs (Coastal Carolina DC for 2 years, UFL coach in 2020) since being fired

The idea that JMU is some sort of cradle of coaching is quite misguided. If you want the program that keeps turning out P4 wonderkinds, you should be looking at Western Kentucky (which I talked about in my Tyson Helton piece)

Saw the men lost their secret scrimmage with Seton Hall. No details on minutes played so don't really know how they used this. If it was mostly starters that's concerning but if it was more focused on plays and rotating players in and out less worrisome.

Word is Bill BellyToCheek's girlfriend is telling him he can't go to high school games to scout "talent".

the only coach with a title

The Chris Bickell '97 Head Football Coach would like a word

idk man - I get your point. I'd like to be good again, at least. And I agree there's a pretty good chance Franklin gets us back to good, at least.

But that's a lot of money to pay just to be good. If we're going to pay that kinda money I think I'd rather reach great, y'know?

And I know, offset, offset, blah blah. Penn State isn't going to pay the offset if Franklin doesn't get a FMV contract. We'll have to pay more than peanuts to get him. I'm giving up on the "don't hire Franklin" campaign because it seems he's a popular top choice here.

I don't think it's very likely VT will land him either way.

In 3 months we'll all be dissecting the coach we actually do hire (which, I'll be surprised if it's any of the coaches bar1990 has reviewed) and I'll say then the same thing I've said before. I won't know for sure if he's any good until 3 years into the job. There'll be early signs, sure, but things could go either way from there in the first year or two.

.VT is never winning a natty in college football as it's currently constructed.

100% Correct. VT is not constructed to compete in Pay-for-Play Transfer Madness.

The hope is that at some point there is some level of Reorganization/Regulation/Standardization to College Football.

VT really, really needs to be in a good position to be one of the "haves" when that occurs. Right now, we are firmly in the "have not" bucket.

Franklin (who I firmly agree will likely never win at the highest level and has a personality that is nails on a chalkboard) has a resume that suggests he could get us back to the "have" status. That's what we need.

His value would be hugely increased if he took an average salary which allowed us to pay and hire really strong Coordinators. If he wants $10+ million, I think the case for him is less strong.

We probably shouldn't even be talking about Championships until we are regularly beating Wake Forest, ODU and the like again. And yes, Franklin lost to bad teams this year--but that was an outlier--at VT we have made a habit of it for 10+ years.

Marc Bronco Clay Mendenhall has 4 names and named his children Cutter, Breaker and Raeder

Paul Johnson verbally told a player the play call every snap and had him run to the huddle to tell everyone as if there was no such thing as a headset.
In case it wasn't already obvious that GT was running a 100 year old strategy for 10 years. I am curious how many times he just told the player "run the triple option"

God I hated facing GT in that era

There are no sure things in a coaching search, but IMO Franklin is as close as we're getting to one.

We know he has a ceiling that (at VT) is likely 9-10 win seasons, ACC championship game appearances, maybe getting into the playoffs. That's the best case scenario, but that's likely the best case scenario for any coach that we hire. So again, if I had to pick one of the coaches from this series that I think is most likely to reach their ceiling, I think that's Franklin.

In the ACC we are never winning a Natty. Revenue streams are too different between the haves and have nots, and we are a have not.

Should we get into the P2 that door opens. If Indiana can get its act together to be in the mix, there is no reason someone like VT can't, we just need to be in the SEC or Big Ten, first.

I didn't read much beyond the headline, but yeah I saw that same number. The $56M+ to get rid of Norvell, I think not including his staff, and then the costs of bringing in a brand new staff on top of the buyout

But if you hire Franklin, you're acknowledging that you're never going to win a natty.

Some VT fans are at peace with that. Most are not.

I've got bad news for this group. VT is never winning a natty in college football as it's currently constructed. Our best bet for a NCAA football championship is if the top ~40 schools secede into a superleague, and VT wins one as the tallest remaining kindergartner.

Now, if we get our act together we could maybe slip into a P2 conference, have sufficient funding to compete in other sports, and MAYBE we could fall ass backwards into one in any singular team sport.

Those huge $$ extensions after one great year will really get after you.

Norvell is looking more and more like Chizik or Orgeron at this point. Just a guy in the right place at the right time vs. a real program builder.

Justin Wilcox, the Travers Family Head Football Coach, thinks that because he is the only coach with a title, he deserves a first place vote in the coaches poll every week.

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