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# | It is shit or get off the pot territory for Virginia Tech and its football program 
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Think I'd consider them an upgrade.
Anybody else suddenly mooch more worried about Wake?
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# | It is shit or get off the pot territory for Virginia Tech and its football program I want us to shit, as in rid ourselves all the mediocre to terrible excrement in our program, top to bottom, and be free to rebuild in a way that gives us a chance to be competitive.
Will we? No, we will end up somewhere in the middle. To steal someone else's metaphor, we are going to sit on the toilet for so long, thinking things will get better from a minutia of effort, that we won't ever be able to get up again because our legs will have atrophied and/or died from blood loss.
We won't get off the pot, either, because that will admit we failed at something core to our identity as a university. I can't imagine anything making the BOV's buttholes clench more tightly than that.
Mine as well. Finished grad school in Dec. 96. 96 Orange Bowl loss to Nebraska was tough. I'll never forget those Texas fans in 95 Sugar Bowl who had never heard of us being shocked at how we punched them in the mouth. They couldn't believe how physical we were. Shyrone Stith was a beast. Distant memories now...
Those were my years ...95 to 99...was really a great time to be a Hokie
The 95 and 96 Druckenmiller led squads put us on the map. The 95 Sugar Bowl win against Texas was a marquis win. Those were tough, physical, gritty teams with 0 quit. It really started there before the Vick era....
No problem. Our shut down secondary and excellent kick coverage will totally nullify him when we play them.
It's gonna take way, way more than that to get me back on board, and I suspect I'm not alone
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# | It is shit or get off the pot territory for Virginia Tech and its football program Question, do we want to shit or to get off the pot? Im unclear how this metaphor works in this case because I a lot of shit.
Can Sands/the new AD sit Pry down and say, "hey buddy, we can either let you go and probably no one will give you another head whistle. See Fuente, Justin. Or..... you take a demotion to DC, go back to what you've shown some success in, and then you won't need to move your family again."
Pry did say he wanted to have the tough conversations...
Definitely /s unless people think this would work and then, yeah, I was totally serious
I cant wait for us to beat ODU handedly so everyone is back one board only to beat Wofford 12-3
Wake's LBs look like ours so far. State QB Bailey may eat us alive running the ball.
Chris Barnes, WR #10 for Wake is a nightmare.
He has a 98 yard Kickoff return for TD and 70 yard catch to set up another TD already in the 1st quarter.
100% agree
IMO simplified tactics work best for a national team. A lot easier to get spacing right when you know you have 3 guys all the time rather than guess if it's going to be 2, 3, or 4.
Ream is still serviceable but I worry how much he's going to decline before next summer. He's less exposed in a back 3, but you absolutely can't play him in a 2 CB formation anymore at the highest levels. And we don't exactly have solid depth at CB so you've got to work with what you've got.
Getting extra bodies in the center pushing up into the box is why I think I prefer the 3-5-2. Dest and Robinson will give us all the width we need and Weah can back them up, and give us pace off the bench. Get two guys up top(-ish) that can get into the box, along with a couple midfielders that can either pick a pass or crash the box as well. Not sure if we've seen Pulisic outside of a winger or 10, but I want that guy with space to run at defenders going towards the box, not the end line.
I put him on the list more as a sign that nothing was changing in Merryman, and even getting more calcified. Less about the #firebryanstinespring throwback. I don't think he would be a good hire in 2025 but not for the same reasons he was a beleaguered OC
Honestly Stinesrping wouldn't be that bad as a HC, he was great as a position coach and the issues with his offense were olY calling, those offenses ranked his plays to perfection, they just didn't work within the flow of the game. If he hired a real OC I would be disappointed in the VT leadership for both hitting a bigger name, but we could do worse.
Let's not try to claim developing Hooker. Tennessee did that. Could he have been developed here? I don't have high confidence in that.
Other ideas I didn't see on the thread, non-joke edition:
If we were able to poach him it would make me feel better about our program: Manny Diaz
If you can't spend with the big boys, get creative: Jeff Monken
Whoever we hire should either come with a definitely-not-tampered-with QB or hire an OC who will
Wrong answers only:
Scott Satterfield (ACC experience!)
Steve Belichick (famous dad!)
Scot Loeffler (familiar with the program! knows Tom Brady!)
Bryan Stinespring (clearly we've strayed too far from the glory days and need to retVTrn!)
I was there from 2004-2009!
I don't have an issue with the back 3. If he keeps adams as the 8 and Chris Richards as the middle pivot cb. Ream looked ok on the side the other night. Knowing they are playing as 3 allows them play as 3. Not sometimes as 3, sometimes as 4. There were times when they weren't sure if the 4th guy was getting back or not. But on top of that, when attacking, we wouldn't have more than 1 or 2 in the box. Everyone packed the middle under Gregg. Tuesday night, we had numbers forward. Im all for that.
I understand that it's all about the phases of the game, and the 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 formation has really been a back three in possession. However, I'd rather have three dedicated CBs staying home rather than forcing one of Dest/Robinson to stay back in a more defensive role. Plus, against more technical sides, I'm more comfortable defending with 5 in a mid-block instead of 4, and I want Chris Richards in the middle of a back 3 where he can help on both sides if needed. Not sure of your views on the back 3 and/or the 4th back, but my only hesitation is that I don't fully trust any centerback not named Chris Richards. I think I may trust Scally as the RCB in a back three more than our other pure CBs. This team needs to get better at defending first - Adams is the only guy that regularly knows how to defend in the middle 3rd (Tillman has been getting better). I agree that everyone else seems to want to shuttle the ball carrier to the back line and hope not to get exposed.
Pulisic had a very small window where he looked competent on set pieces, but that was maybe one or two games. I agree, he's better when in the mix. Having Richards/McKennie/Pepi (when playing) crash the box on set pieces and Puli trying to get on the end of the 2nd ball is the way to go.
Poch doesn't seem to know what he wants to do yet, other than shake up the status quo, so there's no way the team has any idea what he wants to do. The roster and tactics are all over the place - it feels like the opposite of GGG, but too much. Undercoached vs micromanager. GGG's tactics were suboptimal and predictable, but they knew their jobs and played hard so they could often win in spite of it. Now, I agree that everything looks tentative because nobody seems to know what to do (or hasn't been put in a place to succeed) due to inconsistent lineups and tactics. Playing tentatively is a death sentence when the pace of play increases, even for players who are used to it in the bigger leagues. Not to mention playing with guys that just don't have the skills to hang at that pace of play...
It's not based on success, it's based on the NCAA hierarchy. For better or worse, we are still in an FBS P4 conference. G5 ranks lower, Div II and Div III below that. The rules are different for each category. We're in the highest level of competition under the law.