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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" 
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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" If you think this is the first time that Whit has brought this up, then you are mistaken.
Do you think that Whit is going to present information to his superiors and primary stakeholders for the first time in a room full of media members? And in the process more/less throw them under the bus? Wow the whole thing is being reported on?
This is a coordinated efforts by multiple parties to get attention from people outside of Virginia Tech.
I am not under any circumstances saying that Whit is a perfect athletic director. But the argument of "how did it take Whit 5 years to bring this up?!?!" is bullshit.
The stacked VT needs to be in our rotation permanently. Have a throwback game every year where we wear that look, both home and on the road.
From just a pure aesthetic viewpoint its a great logo, and something we should embrace far more than not. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it should be our full time logo in baseball and softball.
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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" We've lost sight of the most important thing: winning in football. That's the best path. When I was a student in the early 90's nobody wore VT colors to games generally. It was whatever you had in your drawer - especially coats- nobody had a heavy VT jacket in the stands. Ironically right after I left (1993) the team started winning games, going to the first bowl game in 9 years- before everyone made a bowl, etc. Then the team won conference titles, etc for the next 25 years to build what it is today- last year Lane was sold out coming off a 6 win season. In order to win, we need players- and what people don't want to talk about- is that we can't sign great ones out of high school anymore. If money only fixes that, then we need more money- 100%
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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" God that is such a loser's mentality. Accept defeat before even trying to win. And its an attitude that is shared by so, so, so many at VT. "We were bad when I was a student, so why should we strive for greatness now".
And we wonder why we ended up in the situation we are.
Whit was right when he said we need to change our mindset and culture. We cannot get back to where we want to be if we accept defeat from the start
ATLIEN
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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" Chasing this football relevancy is insane to me.
I don't think your wrong. It's absolutely insane.
But this whole sport is absolutely insane. Everything about College Athletics (if not everything about college) is completely insane.
ATLIEN
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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" If you think Whit is just now realizing this, you're behind on the revelation too. This was a coordinated effort to put on a grand dog and pony show for people outside the university. Lawmakers, fans, etc.
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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" Then what do you see as the best path forward for VT, as a university, broadly. And for VT as an athletic program, specifically?
CONSIDER IT DONE
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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" I have a very unpopular opinion on all of this I believe. Generally speaking, in life, when one "chases" something, it usually doesn't end well.
The amount of money we are behind and in a recurring fashion is so great (unsurmountable) that trying to "chase" relevancy in today's landscape is an absolute fool's errand.
At the end of the day in all efforts to remain football relevant, we will spend millions upon millions and will more than likely be for not. It will burn VT's ass and balls.
Chasing this football relevancy is insane to me. It's way too far out of reach. We will come up short.
When I went to VT, we "sucked at sports". Choosing VT had zero to do with sports. VT has grown its campus immensely over the past 20 years. Most of it after our best years as a football school. I don't think the status of our football program is going to change why most (not all) kids choose to go to VT.
What I think what we are going through is the unfortunate reality that we will never get back to where we want to be in a long, long time, if ever, and it sucks real bad. It's hurts. To feel good about our football program right now is too dam expensive for a pipe dream level of hope coming to fruition.
Truth hurts sometimes and when it does, no one likes to talk about it.
Let the downvotes commence.
Been more than a decade since we've had a non-text helmet design? That's surprising to me. The gobbler should definitely make a come back if we do another image helmet but I'd love something new.
Would be sick if we had a black uni with the helmet being Metallica's black album (Faint Virginia Tech in the Metallica font with the snake in the corner l)
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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" Who at VT voted for/signed off on FSU making 40% more than we do now? Last year they won 3 fucking games. So let's kill our athletic department to keep them around. Who signed off on that?
Welcome to the Baller Industrial Complex. Are you new here? Saban made more than the entire state legislature of Alabama. They are not normal people.
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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" the only way I can get close to 35 million is if the fees are trimester fees - that is, they aren't annual, but actually hit each trimester. 299X38kX3 = 34,086,000
To be faaaaaaaaair, Whit did imply that this is by no means the first time the BoV has heard this kind of information, so I'm not sure it's completely fair to say he is to blame. It's entirely possible if not likely that the BoV has just not cared to this point.
#Hokies AD Whit Babcock gave a not-so-rosy assessment of VT's athletics finances to the Board of Visitors on Monday, sounding the alarm for additional university funding. "I feel like I've been crying wolf," he said, "and the wolf is really coming."https://t.co/F3vdX4Z757— Andy Bitter (@AndyBitterVT) August 18, 2025
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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" Nearly everything about the structure of American higher education is unique to America. Even the concept of "college pride" isn't really found anywhere else.
(I'll spare myself a long-winded rant about how U.S. colleges are just money-sucking factories whose sole purpose is to increase enrollment and donations.)
HOKIE HOOPS WIZ
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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" It's a loss of $15M in local impact plus the loss of ACC revenue of potentially $15-25M or more if our viewership decreases.
Also have to factor those numbers don't account for success. The revenue numbers change dramatically if you get back to consistent winning. See what they posted in terms of Clemson applications %. Merchandise, fan interaction opportunities and other means of revenue generation like better profile from companies and sponsorship deals.
Is it perfectly aligned to break even? Initially no, but if we are consistent winners, then more likely yes and to have any hope of making the split to the Haves then operating that way makes more sense.
CLASS WAR VETERAN
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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" lmao, only $270 per person, good luck
CLASS WAR VETERAN
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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" As I mentioned in the other thread about the presentation - I am glad Whit is realizing this, but he is a minimum 5 years behind on this revelation
Hmm - this might be helpful for me week one, as my wife is apparently planning a trip to go see her family labor day weekend
IMO, it doesn't get any better than these three:
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# | Whit: "If VT doesn't radically leap forward now, our fate is likely sealed for generations to come" It isn't political issues...
All the universities in countries with free/affordable college are not spending hundreds of millions every year on things that don't teach students.
I'd argue these points contradict each other, but I won't get into it here. I think we might agree more than you think on how things should be, but in America, as a D1 school, if we don't try to keep up we'll see VT become more obscure and less relevant in both the athletic and academic landscape. They shouldn't be that related to each other, but they are.
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Somewhat surprised that we've never slapped this on a helmet before:
That's a missed opportunity.
Those evil coaches demanding a salary bigger than players compensation- evil. The players must get their millions, and VT's program dies on the vine. It's only fair to the players that generate that revenue.