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Another example of VT spending money on things that do not make you smarter that drive up the cost for your degree. Those buildings are nice, but expensive. The administration overhead is insane. It is an arms race to spend as much money as possible to capture infinite amounts of federally backed student loan dollars. Higher education is becoming a sham - more and more every year.

I survived. Man it was nice to have temps in the 70's, be on a golf course, no work, and just be able to take a deep breath for a minute. Played 99 holes in 4 days. 18-18-36-27. I'm good for a minute, but will be itching to be back out there soon. Heritage Club greens are in a great shape and rolling for this time of year. And Moorland is a wild animal with 25mph winds. Lots of golf for having only played once since Thanksgiving.

The SEC is clearly fishing in deeper waters than Jaydon Young at the moment. I think MJ collins- who is better than young- is their floor ATM.

Death by a thousand cuts. Sports aren't driving enrollment any longer like the Vick era. And just tacking on fees to non-athletes for athletes is a bit much, imho.

Application Numbers:
Record High: Virginia Tech received a record-high 52,365 first-year applications for fall 2024, a 11% increase from the previous year.
Offers Extended: The university extended offers to 28,758 first-year applicants.
Enrolled Students: The incoming first-year class consisted of 7,289 students.

Transfer Applications: More than 3,500 transfer applications were submitted for fall 2024, also setting a record.

For a deep dive into this information, you can refer to Amy Sebring's presentation from the March 5 BOV meeting, which is among the materials for the upcoming BOV meeting next week: https://bov.vt.edu/assets/Materials-March%2024-25,%202025-36.pdf

Skip down to slide 22. VT is still way below every other 4-year public university in VA in terms of fees. I'm not saying it's necessarily right to subsidize NIL in this way, but we're going to have to make the budget work somehow and we are still below anyone else in terms of comprehensive fees.

Money ball doesn't work in any sport. Never has. The A's never beat the Yankees in the post season . The rays never won the world series. The Diamondbacks were not competitive with Texas in the world series a couple years ago. It doesn't work and won't work for VT mens hoops. If we want to finish higher than 10th in the ACC, moneyball won't work. We need to do what Louisville, St. Johns, Missouri did. They went out and got actual good players at each spot. Better players at each spot. They didn't run metrics on how 6 guys could potentially get them 5 rebounds. No. They went out and got better PGs, Cs, Scorers, etc. Period. Money ball has never worked in any sport in terms of winning titles/big games.

This is a drop in the bucket compared to what JMU is charging in student fees for athletics. They are not held to the same LAW that UVA and VT are. That law limits student fees at UVA and VT to no more than 20% of the total athletic budget.

Last I checked it's costing a JMU student almost $12K to graduate in four years in athletic fees.

Yeah I don't think this was a force out, I think Jaydon is testing the market. As you said, he was the teams most consistent scorer at the end of the season. He had two bad games from 3pt% but I fully expect to see Young in a SEC/BIG10 uni next season or one of the one offs like UConn or other "blue blood" basketball teams.

FYI, this is what I saw online for VT tuition for what they pay out-of-state now and ~3x what I was paying.

Virginia Tech's tuition is $15,948 for in-state and $37,158 for out-of-state students. Compared with the national average cost of in-state tuition of $12,201, Virginia Tech is more expensive.

The part cited above here in the post is including many other costs like computer, transportation, etc:

"($30k-$38k per year in-state, $50k-$65k per year out of state, per VT.edu)"

Back when I was a student - and could not have cared less whether VT even had a football or a basketball team - I would have been really ticked at this. With tuition ~3x what I was paying then (last I checked), not sure if this would infuriate me even more to be asked to pay for NIL or if I would not even notice it, but asking regular nerd/dweeb people like I was then to pay for NIL would just be galling.

what point are you squeezing the average student too much, and who is the voice in the room speaking up for them?

That point was passed a long time ago and no one is advocating for them outside of message boards. VA does have an annual cap on fee increase percentages, but that seems to be it.

The quality of an education at VT does not change whether VT is getting 2-3 star recruits and FCS transfer ups vs. 4-5 stars and high level transfers. It may affect VT in terms of student body over time, and athletic fees are standard everywhere else so it is easy to pass this off as rounding error.

If you are going $150k plus into debt for an out of state VT degree what's an extra $1k in fees over 4 years really matter?

"Which then brings up the obvious question...how does a guy who averages <5ppg for his career and about to be at his 3rd school have an agent?"- I'll answer that... This is America. The only country in the world where if you show some promise in basketball around 12-13 years old (8th grade) you enter the Sports Bag Industrial Complex. At that point - you average 12 points on your AAU team, 6 assists in games where defense is not played, have some height, can dribble, maybe dunk in 8th grade- at that moment, you enter the bag machine. NOTHING else matters- you are coddled, you don't have to take academics seriously, you are recruited by major universities giving you a priceless opportunity to showcase your skills and get a Stanford, Duke, UVA, Cal education because you have drawn attention in the Sports Bag Complex- nothing else is important. Eddie Curry's mom fed his brothers mac and cheese and Eddie rib eyes because Eddie was in the Complex. Countless NY playground legends that could not read were offered world class educations from Jim Calhoun, Jim Boeheim, Valvano, Rollie, Tark. Literally could not read. Try getting into Syracuse University otherwise. It's part of American culture- now more than ever- this complex. Hell Jaydon Young actually made it to a high major program. There are countless kids with agents, runners, AAU scum that couldn't play for Colorado School of mines. But it remains a thing because this is the only country on earth where grown men and women feed a beast that sees less than 1% of these kids make it to the NBA. When you have the sports bag complex, you must pay these kids - you must- whether they can actually play basketball or not. Why? Go Blue! Let's GO Hokies! The complex is always fed with irrational boosters that will do anything to beat Ohio State or UVA. And the parents of those 12 year olds in AAU know it. Iverson knew it when he threw a chair at a kid and was given clemency to go to one of the most prestigious schools in the country. Now that is not enough- he must get paid over the table millions while he is there. Hoya Saxa! Marcus Vick knew it as he was a total fucking degenerate and disgrace to my alma mater- grown men fed it and coddled him. The Sports Bag Industrial Complex is fucking real, 100% a house of cards, and 100% detrimental to 99% of the kids its supposed to "help".

Everything is relative and has context. If we are clinging to actually being a competitive ACC program, than yes we can do better than Jaydon Young. If we are content to be 9, 10, 11th in the league and wait for Young to blossom as a 5th year senior, well yay hokies and enjoy the NIT. Its all relative. Could Young play here, be on the top 8-9 guys on the roster? sure eventually. But is that what the goal is? 10th in the ACC? Just watch how quickly our friends up I81 rebuild their hoops program and finish in the top 4 of the ACC. All about context/expectations.

CMY doesn't "force" anyone out. This is CMY we are talking about here, not Bob Knight. Now, CMY is an honest dude of course and perhaps Young asked about his role for next year and Young was blunt with him. The only players CMY is forcing out are lazy or discipline issues.

If CMY really did force Young out, then he'll just be the latest guy who leaves the team only to find success in another D1 program. Jaydon averaged 16 ppg over the final six games, against some good teams no less (Clemson, Louisville, UNC). You could tell it was really starting to come together for him.

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