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# | BOV set to approve plans to increase Student Fees nearly $200 to help pay for NIL 
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# | BOV set to approve plans to increase Student Fees nearly $200 to help pay for NIL Well Penn State has a better "football experience" than VT.
Penn State can be replaced with Pitt (off campus stadium), UNC, UVA, UDel, etc
And Rutgers just swept us, so again this is a very thin logic.
Rutgers might be a better team, but it's not a better game day atmosphere.
Come on man, do you really think that the majority of 18 year olds who are choosing between multiple top 150 universities choose their destination strictly based on academics and costs, and not if they think the campus culture is one they'll enjoy?
Moneyball - not spending money and using situation agnostic deep stats to justify having a 30mil payroll in MLB. That is what Billy Beane did- he had to try to win a july baseball game with no money. So he comes up with a briliant marketing ploy ignoring that the key to his success was drafting 2 very good pitchers who left as soon as they could. The Chiefs hit on Mahomes in a big way - drafted him... If this was Billy Beane, mahomes would have left as soon as he looked like "mahomes" and Beane would argue he could get 15 TDs and 4ints from Geno Smith platooning with Tyrod Taylor.
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They make take you from your family, but the olympic federation doesn't beg joe citizen to pay you via donations. Its a "job" in Germany, much like a plumber. The college begging pretense is not there at all.
I read it as the Automated Teller Machine.
You have a cleaner mind than me my freind.
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# | BOV set to approve plans to increase Student Fees nearly $200 to help pay for NIL If VT and other schools had any guts, they would list it on a line item in tuition costs - " basketball and football salary fee"... Remember Brent Pry makes millions and Whit brings in "millions in profit" every year, but Sally math major should pay for ballers- because- fairness.
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# | BOV set to approve plans to increase Student Fees nearly $200 to help pay for NIL Well Penn State has a better "football experience" than VT. And Rutgers just swept us, so again this is a very thin logic.
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# | BOV set to approve plans to increase Student Fees nearly $200 to help pay for NIL I'm going to say it - as long as big college athletics keep going this way, I'm not going to allow my son and daughter to consider VT or any big FBS school. Period. Students actually wanting to get an education and taking on debt to do so being forced to subsidize intercollegiate sports because these athletes think they bring so much "value" is just morally and ethically wrong.
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# | BOV set to approve plans to increase Student Fees nearly $200 to help pay for NIL No, no, and no. I was a physics major.
There was a great Bonehead cartoon that stuck in my head all these years. Single wide panel, sign that says "ticket office", and Bonehead at the window: "$18? But I only want to stay three quarters!"
Or win, depending on the sport and the country.
It's not like Olympians in the U.S. don't make similar sacrifices in the name of glory, even if the money is better.
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# | BOV set to approve plans to increase Student Fees nearly $200 to help pay for NIL If this premise were valid, there would be much more crossover between the great pro sports towns and their major schools
I don't agree at all... Pro sporting events aren't on campus/easy to get to, they don't have student sections, you can't get tickets for a reasonable price, you can't get a section for your entire frat/sorority/group of friends/etc.
I'm not saying that kids choose a college based on a football team alone. I'm saying that a lot of consumers are looking for a 'college experience', which is a single term that encompasses academic life, social life, professional opportunities, community, etc for someone moving out of their parents' home for the first time. On campus sports can influence your social life as a student. Some students want a very specific 'college experience'
If you think kids are choosing colleges purely based financial reasons and professional prospects... you're going to be disappointed. As of fall 2024, out-of-state students made up approximately 34.7% of Virginia Tech's undergraduate enrollment. Most of those kids could have gone to comparable schools (UMD, Rutgers, Penn State, etc) that are in-state for them (presumably less, presumably of similar academic rigor) and offer the same/similar majors. That means roughly 10,000 kids have decided that Virginia Tech offers them something special beyond the classroom. If you don't think that football directly or indirectly contributes to some of those individuals' decision... idk what to tell you.
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# | BOV set to approve plans to increase Student Fees nearly $200 to help pay for NIL Shrug.
This is what it costs to go to a "name brand" school that has "name brand" athletics.
This was baked in to the decision to start paying players, and was only a matter of time. They're employees. Someone has to pay. Probably everyone.
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# | BOV set to approve plans to increase Student Fees nearly $200 to help pay for NIL It's a question of ROI.
If we had competitive teams that represent the the school well and function as the "front porch of the university" effectively, then I don't think it's that big of a deal. But the current iteration of "we're still ass but we're not that bad"? Hell to the no.
probably.
Don't you mean Automated Teller Machine Machine?
In the distant past the athletic department would help fund the academic side but the last time I know if a donation was for the library in 1981, so times have changed.
I read it as the Automated Teller Machine.
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I tried to look at the FY 24-25 VT budget to see if this was true or not, and unfortunately they don't provide any detailed line item budgets for their auxiliary enterprises (like athletics). Only total revenues and expenditures. However, for this year's overall athletics budget, there was a planned surplus of $4.6MM to roll back into the University's reserve fund.
1314-7... If we didn't have the "famine" in this feast of famine offense we might have 2 losses on the year and we'd be ranked at least in the top-15.
"the majority of 18 year olds who are choosing between multiple top 150 universities choose their destination strictly based on academics and costs"- Yes, I do in fact. I know many recent college entrants that would not have looked at VT or school xxx if they werent getting financial assistance. WVU has ramped this up recently, so have schools like ECU, Bama, Colorado. Yes, Bama is trying to get kids in for other reasons than sports. I think the VAST majority of kids do not choose VT for the football experience- clearly. lol. I think you are way overselling this point. I think finances, academics, hell even legacy stuff comes way before "lets do to Gonzaga because of the Kennell experience with the hoops team".