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coach mcguirk's picture coach mcguirk | 10 years 3 months # | Experience Standing Out to Fuente, Devin Wilson Trying His Hand at Wide Receiver

OK, cool...and yeah, Conch Key is really low - scary low. And tiny. You just can't be there in a storm. I was also thinking Conch would be more of a "Marathon" neighborhood. The Keys are divided into Upper, Middle, and Lower. He's in the upper Middle, I'm in the lower Upper...so close, but different, :p
It is so cool to see VT stickers, or VT flags flying from a home. Had a wedding/wedding party? book my bar (it's a beautiful place) once recently, and I heard the DJ start playing a familiar riff...and here's me:

That's right...I'm hearing Enter Sandman. The bride had to have it at her wedding.

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| 10 years 3 months # | NCAA Puts End to Satellite Camps

I'm guessing he only real impact to TTU is their pocket book because outside schools are no longer paying for their camps.

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| 10 years 3 months # | NCAA Puts End to Satellite Camps

So yes this really hurts two types of schools, the ones with national profiles and budgets to match(UM, tOSU, PSU) and schools nearby to great locations but in inconvenient locations( TTU, VT). Is hindering both worth it?

I just don't believe that banning the practice truly hinders the latter. VT was able to recruit the 757 with great success a decade ago. Without camps. Over the last 4 years (2012-2015) Texas Tech has averaged a recruiting class in the mid to upper 30s (247sports). They had the 27th ranked class (their best mark in that span) in 2012. It appears to me that their recruiting is completely unaffected by their (in)ability to conduct camps throughout the state.

It is fairly well known that Texas, as a state, has a ton of talent. There may not be talent immediately adjacent to Lubbock, but I can guarantee that every high school football player in the state of Texas has heard of Texas Tech. I really don't think their recruiting is affected in any way by having (or not having) camps in the state. I think the only thing that would negatively impact Texas Tech's recruiting is big name schools from far away setting up shop in their backyard and actively recruiting Texas High School players who might otherwise be considering Texas Tech.

DBHT14's picture DBHT14 | 10 years 3 months # | NCAA Puts End to Satellite Camps

>I have a hard time believing that kids need to have camps to get exposure. With the prevalence of HUDL and other similar highlight reel type things I'm fairly confident that any kid who plays high school football in the US would be able to get his film out there.

And with the growth of "Non Commitable" Offers just as heavily balances out this. What good is an offer if it is contingent on performing in front of coaches at a summer camp you might not be able to attend?

" I think that your argument that TT, which is in a rich recruiting area, is getting screwed by the practice being banned directly contradicts your argument that teams in rich recruiting areas stand to benefit from the practice being banned since outside schools can no longer recruit TT's recruit-rich home state (Texas)."

We should absolutely dispel the notion that TTU is in a rich recruiting area, no more than VT itself is in one in Montgomery County. Lubbock is in the sticks so far many of the surrounding schools have to play 7on7 HS ball for lack of numbers.

It screws TTU because it is just as far to Lubbock as it is to say Stillwater or Norman, but TTU had the advantage of being a Texas school with all the state pride and legacy that might imply for a Texas HS recruit and that potential pull. But by not being able to be on the ground as it were in the populous part of the state they have to rely on a 7 hour drive from Dallas, 10 hours from Dallas etc.

So yes this really hurts two types of schools, the ones with national profiles and budgets to match(UM, tOSU, PSU) and schools nearby to great locations but in inconvenient locations( TTU, VT). Is hindering both worth it?

That is a personal question that everyone needs to decide on their own.

DBHT14's picture DBHT14 | 10 years 3 months # | NCAA Puts End to Satellite Camps

VT is still a hike from Norfolk/Va. Beach, if a kid couldnt go out to PSU or UM for a weekend for a camp it is only marginally more likely he could attend VT's.

wythevillian92's picture wythevillian92 | 10 years 3 months # | Buzz Watch 2016

And....Villanova won a title. They ain't going away.

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| 10 years 3 months # | Ty Outlaw, anybody see that Buzz mentioned in a post on

My comment was not to you, it was directed towards one that has now been deleted. Whether or not Ty will be able to play is a perfectly acceptable topic. Rumor-mongering and/or privacy violations are not. We can discuss the former without involving the latter.

72Hokiemonster's picture 72Hokiemonster | 10 years 3 months # | Ty Outlaw, anybody see that Buzz mentioned in a post on

I did not speculate,list his personal health or information. I merely saw it posted by Buzz Williams that he expected Outlaw to play this fall. I am not a paying member of TSL but the link to the coaches information was listed on the free board but could only be accessed with a TSL membership. I don't think Will or Chris would have a link to that information unless it was legit or they would not have allowed it to be listed with no offense.

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