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I think one of the biggest things here is the point you made about:

>I think we are going to have to really adapt our expectations for everything in the wake of this essentially brand new program.

Here's the deal. We're going up against historically good programs. I think we forget that some of these schools we're going up against have a much longer and trophied history than us. That isn't to say VT isn't good enough, I just feel we (myself included) let the love of VT overstep realistic expectations. That doesn't mean we can't land blue chips or have nothing to sell... we just need to keep it in perspective sometimes. This was a REALLY tough spot to sell and even we are unsure of what is going to happen so try to imagine what it's like being a 17 year old kid trying to pick a spot for your future and a program that has a brand new coach coming off a 7-6 season... again offers you and there's a handful of weeks left to sign.

With a year to start building what he wants Fuente is AGGRESSIVELY going after 757 talent, added a TON of recruiting staff and it couldn't come at a better time. This doesn't guarantee next year to be a top 25 class but we should definitely look forward to what our new staff will bring to the table.

Fuente inherits a better team at Virginia Tech than he did at Memphis. This recruiting class is better than any recruiting class he ever had at Memphis. I am already ecstatic because stars mean nothing when it comes to under evaluated or unranked kids (I know in some cases they are pretty valuable though haha)! We lost to ECU last year, Arkansas lost to Toledo, FSU lost to Houston, and Temple almost beat Notre Dame. The coaches from the AAC clearly knew what they were doing and how to do more with less. In my opinion Memphis should have beaten Houston, but they played them closer than FSU did. If our classes are in the 40's or below from now on but we are in the top 25 then I do not care about a stupid star. I realize Fuller lived up to his 5 star calling but not all 5 stars do. I really love recruits from Georgia and Florida, and really anywhere from VA to South of here. Most of Memphis' players were N/R, 2 star, and a few 3 stars under Fuente with no 5 stars and barely if any 4 stars (I haven't done the research but do not feel the need to) and that team lost by 1 point to Houson 34-35. FSU with so many ESPN 300 5 and 4 stars lost to Houston 24-38. If we could consistently beat FSU, Clemson, Miami, and others with N/R, 2 star, and 3 star players that would make the victory so much sweeter imho. But I do love getting big time recruits and over the next few years as the team wins more games and relationships improve we will be there. I am just glad that Wolfolk and Pride are the only 2 players we lost since Fuente became coach because it could have been a lot worse.

I think you've made a good point that many may not be considering in that Fuente and staff didn't just have to recruit new guys, they had to go re-recruit all the committed guys as well, particularly on the offensive side of the ball. I think the fact that we kept so many of Beamer's commitments is more impactful than the guys we weren't able to flip.

I think we are going to have to really adapt our expectations for everything in the wake of this essentially brand new program. Everyone is excited about Fuente, but we need to wait to see what actually happens with it all. I'm content with this class, I think it addressed at least some of our pressing needs at QB and WR even if we did miss on some LBs. I think 2017 will give us a much better idea about that this program is turning in to under Fuente.

Couldn't agree more, we all love to piss and moan on the message boards but only a fraction open their wallets for the program.

I was slightly disappointed with the way that turned out on television. The lighting in Cassell, while improved over the past, was still so dark that it was pretty difficult to make out the striped pattern over the broadcast. I'm sure it looked a lot better in person.

A lot of positives in this. Some negatives are hard to swallow but again Fuente was spending just as much time locking down new commits as he was maintaining the older ones.

I'll be extremely interested to see how 2017 plays out since we've already heard good rumblings from coaches in VA about Fuente and we have a few top recruits keeping us in their sights. The fact of the matter is this was a 7-6 program that saw their long time legend of a coach leave and not even Hokie fans were sure of who or what was going to happen. With the dust settled if we can even marginally improve from last year and show signs of life I bet we can turn some heads and land the guys we want.

I think he's talking about Del Usions. Yea, we're really going to miss that guy.

I think we need to up our marketing focus on having players named like Eron Carter and Kalvin Cline. The puns write themselves.

Devante Brooks was an early VT lean (If I had a nickel every time I heard that) but committed to the Vols in January of 2015. Latrell Williams showed interest to the Hokies, but committed to Miami. Latrell flipped from Miami to Tenn. today.

Not sure who he is talking about.

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