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a ton of guys get rated by 247 & rivals based on camp performances alone

interesting, I was wrong - they're just stingy with 5-star ratings, not 4
that being said we still have two guys enrolled already who were ESPN 300 (Dealbo & Jackson)
WOOHOO! Speculative dance party!

Wallace was offered after Fuente came on board. So maybe that bodes well for the future.
I was thinking the same thing. Heard a guy on Richmond local radio yesterday who covers high school sports for the local newspaper. He said Wallace didn't start until this year (I believe) and just got all those offers in the past 30 days. Prior to that he had Cincinnati and JMU offers.
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# | Dozens of 2016 Prospects Trek to Tech for One Last Week of Visits Ahead of Signing Day Thanks I couldn't find an overall list. That many 4 stars is insanely generous , especially in comparison to the 3 stars.
That 497 includes more than 50 JUCO players, which the composite 340 doesn't. That's still a HUGE difference
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# | Dozens of 2016 Prospects Trek to Tech for One Last Week of Visits Ahead of Signing Day To back up your statements, ESPN has 10,937 recruits in their database. 9 are 5*, 497 4*, 602 3*, 808 2*, 35 1* and the rest are unranked.
It's not his fault the storm of the century ruined a recruiting weekend if I remember correctly we had a few big name recruits coming up here that had to can
And with a large number of them the staff was able to reschedule visits including into mid week visits. So while the storm did hurt (eg Pridgeon) it wasn't the disaster I was expecting.
eh. It's not even so much the "grit." I don't watch a ton of Islanders games so I could be wrong, but to me they just never seem to play with any respect or class. I understand the need for enforcers, but a lot of times it seems like they're more just playing to hit someone than even playing the puck. TBH, Wilson does it a lot too and I'm not a huge fan of his play style. I'm fine with a big open ice hit at a pivotal moment to stop a breakout or to get some energy back in your team, but I've never been a fan of completely laying someone out when a simple poke check along the boards or a shove to drive their body off the puck will suffice.
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# | Dozens of 2016 Prospects Trek to Tech for One Last Week of Visits Ahead of Signing Day They actually scout & evaluate game film in addition to assessing camp performances before rating someone at that level
First of all, that's what every scouting service does... you just described scouting in general. Not unique to ESPN
And yes they are stingy about 5 stars but NOT about 4 stars. The composite has about 340 4 stars. ESPN has easily more than that. Like Ladler being 60th overall in his state but only 50 florida players are in the espn300. Or Kyree Cambell being a 4 star at 10th overall in VA but only the top 5 VA players are espn300. Just between Texas, Florida and Cali there are an additional 55 4 stars outside of the espn300. I would guess overall they probably have close to 390 4 stars.
That is NOT being stingy with 4 star ratings. That is being more generous than the overall industry. Check the facts
Fair enough. I definitely agree that they need to attend to their forward depth situations, but at the same time, the were considered a cup contender at the beginning of the post season last year and made it to the second round with very little difference in personnel. Their lines got shuffled some, but for the most part its the same players.
1st line last year was Galchenyuk (42 pts), Plekanec (60 pts), and Parenteau (22 pts).
I guess what it really comes down to is that even though i've sort of known all along, it surprised me how much their "greatness" leans on Carey Price being lockdown day in and day out. Now that they have a slightly above average goalie instead of elite level, they can barely tread water.
I'm man enough to say
For a fan of a team that employs Tom Wilson, you shouldn't have so much disdain for the "gritty" players.
Agreed, me personally I think 247 is the best with ESPN being a close second but back in the day when 247 didn't exist and ESPN was still lazy about their rankings I mostly only followed Rivals. Now it seems like 247 has past Rivals by and ESPN may be on their way too as well.
Tyree Rodgers has cancelled his OV to Rutgers for this weekend according to 247. Evan put in a CB for him to VT.
55-60 point forwards aren't really 1st line forwards in today's NHL. At least not guys that a team can rely on offensively for production. You need a least one or two guys that can put up a point a game in order to have success. If you look at all the playoff teams currently, just about every team has a guy that is scoring at that PPG pace. And of the teams that don't (LA, Tampa, etc.) the teams are really built around that depth, which the Canadiens just do not have.
Yea, he has good positioning and size, but doesn't really posses any puck movement abilities. Good for getting in the way and you know that he will be where he is supposed to be. I understand thats a good counter to Carlson's super offensiveness a lot of times, but I just wish he could help on offense and with the breakout more than he does. It might just be the former defenseman in me, but I just want something more from a top line D. That being said, I don't know who else besides Carlson I would like him being paired with, so it may just be that he is limited to the top pair.
I think it'll be a little rough for the first few games after the ASB, but they'll get back into the swing of things. They have a pretty hard month coming up in February, so if they can keep at around the same pace, all should be fine. Chicago is closing the gap for the President's trophy, but the Caps have played I think 4 less games than CHI at this point.
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10 years 5 months
# | Dozens of 2016 Prospects Trek to Tech for One Last Week of Visits Ahead of Signing Day They have gotten better but generally it seems like people put the most stock in Rivals or 247
He's actually right though. ESPN has severely stepped up their recruiting evaluations the last couple of years.
They call that a Red Bull.
For the casual observer***
You can't tell me that it is easy to follow a football if you have never grown up with the sport. Reverses, play fakes, options, fumbles, and trick plays are just as difficult to follow for someone that has never watched the sport before. Heck, even the trained professional camera guys have difficulties at times following the play.
Part of watching any sport it knowing how to watch. Hockey is a sport where you don't really need to be able to see the puck as long as you understand players movements around the puck. By understanding player movements, it is possible to know exactly where the puck is at all times, even as it's being shot 100mph through five people. Having expectations of where the puck was, and where it should be as the result of a shot is a huge part of being able watch the game without any lame glowing circles on the TV. And for most people that follow hockey religiously, the thought of having something of the sort on the screen like a glowing circle would be extremely annoying, as there are no issues with their current abilities to watch the sport.
Also, as someone that grew up watching hockey in SD, watching hockey today is a cakewalk.
Keep in mind that ESPN is pretty stingy with their 4 & 5 star ratings. They actually scout & evaluate game film in addition to assessing camp performances before rating someone at that level.
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# | Dozens of 2016 Prospects Trek to Tech for One Last Week of Visits Ahead of Signing Day Well I guess it depends what site you go too, all stars are hogwash anywya until theses kids are competing against other div I talent it is all guesstimates...

so to break it down...
247 composite = 1 (Jerod Evans)
247 = 2 (Evans, Floyd)
Rivals = 2 (Evans, Ladler)
ESPN = 5 (Ladler, Dealbo, Jackson, Kumah, Denmark) - Evans wasn't rated by ESPN.