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VT has a winning record in all maroon. And those are usually worn in big games against tough opponents.

I'm just sayin'...

If you are going to throw the ball long, aim towards sideline, not the middle of the field please. Also Ford had to slow down for the ball. Motley didn't have enough arm.

I agree. Maybe it was just my perception, but Motley did not looked prepared, comfortable or confident enough to throw the ball, period. It was painfully obvious after the injury why Brewer got the starting job, (which I agreed with all along). The kid, (Motley) or kid(s) (Motley, Durkin, or Lawson) have big shoes to fill with Brewer's injury. This will be an interesting week for the coaching staff and players for sure, one I don't envy. Either way they all have my support.... Saturday will likely tell us a lot!

The coaches clearly compressed the play book to keep an injury prone Motley as much out of harm's way as possible and still have him actually playing QB. The likelihood of beating OSU was slim to none once Brewer went down and VT failed to convert in OSU territory, so IMO Loeffler basically chose to live to fight another day.

To me this was a sign that as big as the gap was between Brewer and Motley, the gap is perhaps even bigger right now between Motley and Durkin/Lawson. Now the job is to get a new #2 prepared to possibly compete against competition far less capable than OSU, so they can do more with an injury-prone Motley (against competition far less capable than OSU).

I'm just going to go ahead and call Shenanigans that you didn't play JT against us. What's a rematch if you aren't using the same QB when you actually can?! Kidding of course. Cardale played extremely well. I'd love to see that game again if we had Brewer all game and you played JT, but that's just how it goes.

College athletes with obvious expensive items is not limited to OSU. It's an issue I have watching pretty much any post game conference or video of players arriving to practice etc. living in Ohio the media covered anOSU in depth somI saw a lot of the the Pryor and Co. Years with some really nice items, but it's not exclusive to them or that school. I also,don't blame the players for buying/getting those items. I blame the people giving them the money or items instead. There is a reason so few NFL players do well after they leave the NFL, because they don't understand the money and how not to spend it.

The one player I always name when asked who Cardale reminds me of in the pros...Ben Roethlisberger. He's elusive in the pocket and so big he's able to step up and shake off tacklers to extend plays and can step up and run physically if needed. VT got to him plenty and honestly, if Barrett were in there they probably would've had 3 or 4 more sacks in that game. D-line's going to be damn good for you guys this year.

There was a lot to be encouraged about...until Brewer got hurt and we had no ability to pass the ball making it very easy on the OSU defense. I think it took the team the first quarter to settle in, and Loeffler had a good plan that was bolstered by improved Oline play once we moved Hansen out of the line up. There were lanes to run into (although Trey for some of his burst didn't see things great esp during that goal line series). McMillian is going to be a good back. I think if Brewer wasn't hurt we still would have lost, but by around 1 score instead of 3. Those guys across from us had too much speed and talent to grind it out in the 4th especially once our defense saw the slow death of the offense's 3 and outs coming.

Despite some of the good stuff I also thought the coaches had some really odd personnel choices. I really didn't understand why Stroman saw so much time (got burned and had separation against him all night), or why we tended to go with only 3 natural D linemen adding extra LBs to set the edge, Ken Ekanem didn't even seem to appear until the 2nd quarter. Riley not until the 2nd half. Deon Newsome who was way fast on sweeps last year didn't even see him in the game, but Stroman got at least 2 snaps on that same sort of play. For a team with a bunch of options on defense, we played a ton of Freshman; Alexander, Reynolds, both Edmunds bros, all saw time over older players. I understand the schematics of why we went with the double eagle coverage, but I felt like we didn't mix up the defensive look enough over the course of the night, felt like the ECU game last year where we just sorta hoped it would start breaking our way. The film guys will have to speak to that though perhaps we had the right tricks, but didn't execute them. I also didn't understand the lack of adjustment to their motions singling backs against trailing defenders, if OSU executes those plays better this score would have been way worse. How there was no hand off or exchange with the motion man is confusing to me.

Our biggest problem all night long was still the points we worried about coming into the season, Rover and Mike. Neither position played well and it cost us all night long. Maybe part of this is a recruiting issue (losing Reavis turned into a huge huge blow he seemed like he was way headier and in position from what we saw of him vs what we saw last night), but it became obvious by the late 3rd that those positions didn't have strong enough caliber players at them to execute what we needed to do. Motu played ugly all night long, I don't remember him having one decent tackle last night while Williams was all over last season. Frye had the good int, but got suckered out of position on at least 2 big plays. Just getting guys on the ground was a struggle last night.

This was the same story we've seen played out over and over again with our Hokies vs top flight teams. It was just sad that we had to see it happen due to injury this team. Offense ground to a halt, and the defense gave up big plays down the stretch to turn a competitive game into a W of a comfortable margin for the more talented squad. While some things looked up, other stuff looked like it was more of the same we've seen the past few years. It's gonna be a long year I fear, I doubt Brewer is back before we are more than half way through the schedule, and without him making the right reads and timely throws like he showed he could last night I'm worried.

And while it pains me to say this, the lack of high end talent on the recruiting trail showed up last night. Once it got deep into the night the OSU athleticism and speed out did our guys, it was especially glaring when looking at their compliment of backs vs our LBs. 3* talent can only do so much when up against that level of depth of 4/5* talent. The lack of strong LB recruiting hurt us last night.

- Malleck is gonna do some work this year.
- JCC is still a really limited back and while I love his effort, please can someone else tote the rock (yet another JC fumble at the worst time)
- Deon Clarke was hit or miss all night, he made a bunch of deflections and played the option strong, but also wasn't quite fast enough with his extra bulk covering out in space.
- Motley sure as hell looked confused and scared out there, maybe there was no separation (hard to see with the TV angles), but that was downright ugly play from him. No conviction on anything once it was all on him.
- Nijiman really surprised at LT
- Oline in general was a nice surprise compared to years past
- Lack of other WRs was noticeable in the personnel we put out.
- Fuller/Facyson looked good until the 4th when something happened injury or cramps something slowed them up.

OH YEAH HEY CAM PHILLIPS RUN UP THE FUCKING FIELD NOT BACKWARDS. Forgot about that, but it's the most infuriating football play ever to move toward your own goal line.

VT had to talk a future NFL QB into switching back to his HS position from a position he never once played...do you know how many programs would kill to have that option?

I haven't read every thread but some things I haven't seen mentioned:

Hughes punted VERY well, and Slye showed a very strong leg.

Love kicking off thru the end zone.

Whether by design or necessity the little bubble screens were much reduced if not completely absent...and the yards per completion for Brewer were much improved over last years' season average as a result. Yes I know it was a microscopic sample size but that was very encouraging.

YPC for the backs was 3.6. Not good. They seemed much better running straight ahead than trying to get to the edge.

The only thing I was really surprised about was showing he can make tough catches downfield. I didn't think they'd really even send him out on any routes and all of his night would be spent in the backfield, flats and short underneath crossings. Had to assume they'd give him direct snaps and have him run counter treys and sweeps...it's basically how they used him for long stretches in games at QB for a couple years when he was B1G player of the year. Other team knew exactly what was coming on 3rd and 5...but good luck stopping that dude running the football.

I thought his bigger issue was guys not getting free off blocks to clean up the QB as the outside guys were frequently asked to play the pitch man. Wherever the alley guy was to play behind him rarely showed. I can't fault him for being on an island against the players OSU had with no support. Some of that to me was just their guys showing out over ours, lots of okay position ruined by athletic plays.

I would have liked to see him not tweet that stuff, but at the end of the day I think we need to step back, congratulate them on the win and move on. Others have been quick to point out our love for the James Gayle UVA trolling. I for one, thoroughly enjoyed it. Certainly sucks when it's the other way around but just read it and move on.

Still sucks to think about. In the first game of the season, even. Maybe someone can fill me in, what's the backup situation like behind Brewer? I don't know much beyond him...we've tended to just focus on him since he burned us so many times last year.

I don't believe that Cardale is a very intelligent QB from what I saw last night (some of his throws, also that interception should have been thrown away). I also noticed he was incredibly timid about being hit below the waist. He would ragdoll if anyone hit him low so if I was an enemy defense I would be throwing defenders at his knees to force him into bad throws.

We left our corners out on islands way too long last night. I know it worked well for us last year but I think we would have benefited from running some zone to allow our corners to come in to help contain when Jones would scramble. They took Fuller out of the game for good (I think) when he got that PI call in the end zone.

Facyson looked rusty to start but seemed to settle in a little more as he got to make some tackles.

The second touchdown for Ohio State probably should have been called back due to holding. I never rewatched on TV (and never will), but I believe it was Dadi as he was attempting to turn and run to chase the play and the lineman had him held.

Andrew was way too hesitant and any edge blitzes were often slowed up because the defenders were worried about containing. There was one play where 37(?) had the cleanest shot to hit Cardale from the blindside that was wasted because he pulled up to try to contain. I could see his thought process as he was hesitating to run at him.

I think Scott called a good game and I think they really could have punished OSU in the second half with Brewer. The defense never changed formations much and Bucky frequently had a mismatch. Which leads me to Bucky who seemed lost. I don't think his head was in the game and he almost seemed exhausted. I know there's a lot of pressure on him to perform but he seemed to be going through the motions out there.

Sam's juke to score should be made into a gif for permanent admiration. Not quite the level of the Braxton spin, but that defender got roasted. Never forget about Sam!

The running game was a little too scattered. I think Trey could have made some big plays but he also struggled on the stretch plays to break the edge. JC was solid for picking up yards but Ohio St just had his number. They had too many people in the box to allow him to slip through.

Cam Phillips was trying to do a little too much last night. He wasn't targeted much but when he was he ran east/west.

If motley is going to start he needs to pick up the pace. The play action fakes took forever to develop and by that time the defense was in his lap.

I didn't expect to win the game, even when we were up at half. The defense gave up too many big plays and it felt like Ohio state could score at will. I think you'll likely see the Edmund brother getting more reps at LB from here on.

I think that this team can be good but the hype was just too much this week. I'm hoping to see a more level performance on Saturday and get everyone comfortable with their roles.

As soon as the ball left his hand I knew it was in trouble.

I was having terrible flashbacks of the worst throws by Logan a few years back. If we stick with Motley, I hope we can someday remember his as fondly for his successes.

Just realizing that OSU gets all of their suspended players back next week. Good lord. I have a feeling that by the end of the season we will still be able to say that VT was the last team to beat the Buckeyes, because they look like they can be historically dominant this year barring any major injuries.

Also, I'm not sure how many fullbacks that are out there, but Sam Rogers is clearly the best fullback in the nation. You don't see a fullback juke out a corner like that. He will play in the NFL, no doubt.

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