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Wait til they give Murland 10 years in the B1G. They might wish for U-like stats...

Greg Hardy's was affected by time served, basically. He sat the entire last season. Also Hardy's case was thrown out, so while the NFL can make their own conclusion about what happened, Hardy still hasn't been convicted of a crime.

I'm assuming the court would have subpoena power to obtain the records. So, best case he is vindicated by new evidence while still guilty of destroying evidence and not cooperating with the due process at the nfl level. His punishment is based mostly on not cooperating. I don't see any way that the punishment is reduced. I'd be very surprised if this goes to trial. I think it is just Brady's way of screaming innocence until the very end.

I can't agree that he will be hit more, but he will be likely hit harder by the LBs as he's looking back to receive a pass and not ahead at the defenders. Plus, he won't be able to slide to avoid the hit. I don't know if that's necessarily his style, but getting to the sidelines to avoid the hit won't be as easy of an option when catching passes in the middle of the field. It will be a completely different style of hit that he'll receive. And even the best athletes can have a hard time figuring out routes and timing in a new position.

From Frenches post:

This issue is a mix of things. It could certainly be that the coaches saw the adjustment, but had young players (Teller and Hansen were just starting to get starter reps in the Miami and Wake games respectively) and didn't want to over-complicate things.

And then from this post:

this year they will finally get to use the same signals and decisions trees as last year.

These two points make me a LOT more confident that the coaches will have an easier time making in-game adjustments with this group this year.

French, what say you?

There a difference between not turning it over and actively destroying evidence that would have been needed when this eventually went to trial. If Brady had simply not complied and withheld the phone from the NFL he had a case, but the second he had it actively destroyed he was in the wrong. It is his legal responsibility to preserve anything that could be evidence if he even thought there was a reasonable chance this could have gone to trial, which would be hard for him to argue he didn't think it would when everyone was openly debating the possibility of a trial of he didn't get his way.

The legal case that can be made against him for this is not good. At best, the fact he destroyed the phone will be allowed into evidence in the trial and will be hard to argue against. At worst, the judge will instruct the jury (if this is a jury trial) to consider that anything on the phone was going to be damaging to his case, so they can infer the worst about what was on it. There is legal precedence for this, which is described in the link I posted to an earlier reply.

Brady likely screwed himself by destroying the phone. He has a very uphill battle ahead of him, and it doesn't look good. Legally, while he was in the right to not comply with the NFL, he went too far and overplayed his hand.

His knees are just cursed. He needs to come home to VT and coach the RB's, we could sure use a RB coach...

*sigh* I'm trying to keep this civil, but people are getting awfully salty.

You are correct that they should have records of Brady's texts with those two individuals. However, they do not have records of Brady's texts with anyone else.

So, while:
1) Brady is well within his legal right to not cooperate with the investigation
2) Some of the evidence was still recovered through other means

Neither statement addresses my points that destroying his phone (on the day they asked for it!) is
1) SKETCHY AS HELL
2) Unlikely to help his case when it DOES go to court

A 2-loss Alabama, even if it's the SEC champ, won't get the final spot over a 1-loss ACC team

Especially if that 1-loss ACC team gave Ohio State it's one loss....

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