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Whoops, hadn't seen this before I posted above.
Stranger things have happened. Well, maybe not stranger, but almost just as strange. Look at the last few weeks of the 2008 ACC season for Exhibit A. All 6 teams in the Atlantic made a bowl after finishing either 5-3 or 4-4 in the conference. And our run to the title was predicated on us winning out and Miami losing out after they beat us on November 13.
Agreed that Edmunds outplayed Coleman.
I kept telling my wife how important it was for Coleman to stay in bounds during the last possession. "So why isn't he doing it" she asked.
Because he's not very good.
It is funny, but I also think that it makes for compelling late-season football. Sure, every team would love to be undefeated and cruising to a conference championship, but there's also something to be said for these teams busting their butts every week to just stay in the hunt. I think it increases the quality of the competition. It's certainly more fun to watch, and makes me pay more attention to the other games going on.
Wow! 16 pancakes is world class.
Three way tie starts out with best divisional record, so whoever commented above that Duke doesn't technically control their own destiny is correct. If the Jackets beat Clemson, and VT/Duke win out, then VT goes to Charlotte.
Odds are however, that Duke, or for that matter, the Hokies stumble before GT beats Clemson.
Same number of moving parts:
If GT beats Clemson and we beat Maryland and UVA, we go to Charlotte no matter what else happens.
If Duke loses one of their last 3 and we beat Maryland and UVA, we go to Charlotte no matter what else happens.
We need to win our last two games, and have just one of four specific games we aren't involved in go our way. It just so happens that the easiest of those as we perceive right now happens to be the Duke-Miami game.
But, the first one is GT @ Clemson on Thursday night. I would LOVE to see the Rumblin' Bumblers win that one. Yes, it means a loss to MD or UVA completely knocks us from contention, but if we lose to Duke, BC and MD/UVA we don't deserve it anyway.
And yes, if the Coastal continues to eat itself the rest of the year, a 5-3 VT still has a chance to win it, as long as GT, Duke and Miami each lose one the rest of the way, and we get a little more help to ensure we win the tiebreaker.
#GoACC?
To sum up this entire thread. Only in the ACC can there be a division race with 3 weeks left where NO team controls its own destiny. Pretty funny actually.
It's division record. I've thought this one, plus every other possible way for us to get there, over the last two days.
http://www.theacc.com/#!/page/ACC-Football-Championship-Tiebreakers
Turkey leg for you. This 90 degree November day in Phoenix is messing with me I think
Plus calling it only once or twice a game. Instead of 6 times a half.
well...we need clemson to lose...you could look at it that way
if clemson beats gt and duke and vt win out vt and duke would have a 2 way tie at the top. Duke wins head to head and goes to ACCCG
if gt beats clemson and duke and vt win out that would yield a 3 way tie at the top. with each team 1-1 against each other the next tie break is division record. Division, being the key word here. We lost to BC in the atlantic so our 4-1 division record would be better than the 3-2 division records shared by duke and gt. Therefore VT goes to ACCCG.
Most likely case is that duke loses one of it's next 3 games and we win out to go to the ACCCG. That's why most people are talking about that scenario. Nobody really believes that GT will beat clemson, but if they did, that would give us a 3 way tie if duke happens to win out.(we would win the 3 way tie breaker)
Basically, we need GT to beat Clemson OR Duke to lose a game. Root for GT and Miami this weekend. Pretty good chance thUgz beat dook and then we just have to take care of business the rest of the way.
ehhh pretty sure its divisional record. its not a real fair comparison for a conference tie breaker to include out of conference schedule games. the tie breaker if it was overall record would hurt a team with a strong out of conference loss (Bama for us) and would discourage teams from playing tough non conference opponents.
Damn it all. Thanks for letting me know.
My starting QB in my college fantasy league (Derek Carr) is on a bye. I'm going up against the best team. The QB with the most points available on waivers is...welp...Logan Thomas. You and me, Logan. Play well and all past sins are forgiven. Blow this for me and you're dead to me.
We should definitely keep the conversation as plane as possible.
You are right, I was reading the rule wrong.
Even still, VT needs someone to lose. Otherwise, we would "control our destiny" so to speak. If we win out we can still miss the ACCCG, and I am assuming that would be the case if Duke won out. So one of the tiebreakers must snag us
I guess in this case he was correct in that a GT win over Clemson would actually help us quite a bit.
Just to settle this for everyone. If the 3 of us are tied it goes to divisional record and we go to the championship game. As proof I present you with this: http://www.theacc.com/#!/page/ACC-Football-Championship-Tiebreakers
All four #1s and a tournament high 8 total teams. If the ACC doesn't win the title, I'd be surprised.
indeed, you are probably right that he is the go-between but then I like that even more because the organization is designed efficiently.
Nevermind, reading the rule incorrectly. You might be right, if all are 1-1. I was under the impression however that VT still needs someone to lose in order to make the ACCCG. I would assume that would mean Duke, for whatever reason
How is that because in 08 we had a 3 way tie with Gt and Miami and I'm pretty positive one of them was 9-3 and I know we were 8-4, also all the articles I've read say that it goes by divisional record and the overall doesn't come in to play there
I got something along the same lines with the alkaseltzer I think.
It's really not a big deal to me tho, I just refresh then keep on scrolling.
The kid plays his nuts off though. It's just that Trey also plays his nuts off, and has more ability. But I have all sorts of love for JC. He honestly played the best I've seen him play this weekend.