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I'm late to this discussion, but I believe we're not using the word Risk correctly:

Wikipedia Definition:

1. The probability of something happening multiplied by the resulting cost or benefit if it does.

2. The probability or threat of quantifiable damage, injury, liability, loss, or any other negative occurrence that is caused by external or internal vulnerabilities, and that may be avoided through preemptive action.

In all the analysis I see of risk, no one has included the probability of injury. My question is, what are the numbers? How many punt returners are lost for a season/game/quarter? How many get nagging injuries do punt returners get that lead to ineffective performance? Until these numbers are calculated, all Risk/Reward inquiries are based on dataless opinion.

I personally think, that having Jarrett as a punt returner is worth the risk. I don't think injuries to punt returners are very high, but again, that's just my hearsay.

Edit: corrected spelling of word

Widdleton: It was a doggone ghost, I tell you. Dont listen to anyone else. Something was out to get us. I dont know if Bear Bryant was there and he was mad at our obvious show of arrogance, or maybe Saban himself was trying to teach us a lesson. I dont know. But its not science. There was something foul at play here, and we all paid the price.

@thekeyplay: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

i love that they insinuate we (or at least joe) had something to do with the caravan breaking down. that was funny

dude you went to riverheads? i went to draft and you aint lyin, not much d-1 talent around here. we dont have any state titles (in football at least) but my senior year (95-96) we got to the state semis but got trounced by powatan.

i was gonna sarcastically tell joe i'll definitely be attending some games in augusta county, if only to watch my homeboy's son play.

Mike Barber is saying on the J. D. Howell Show (ESPN Blacksburg) that Wang (C), Miller (RG), and Farris (LG) are pretty much set as the inside guys on the OL.

Their thing was they paid for the seat. My answer was so did I and I have the right to stand up just like you do. If you don't want to stand that is your choice. I will be accommodating if u are nice and respectful otherwise have fun looking at my back while seated and not participating

I totally disagree with the title of this column.

(I do however agree with the premise that KJ is the leader and one of our most talented d-backs)

The video that dcarney0711 linked illustrates this point and is a great counter.

The special teams (Beamer Ball) has been no better than our average opponent's special teams in the last five or so years. Beamer Ball in its heyday had the best players/athletes on the field. Starters on O and D wanted and were encouraged to be part of the "pride and joy". That was our edge that separated us from everyone else. Beamer has fallen back from this approach and no longer uses his best players on punt blocks/returns (not sure what caused this change)
I miss the golden days of a lee suggs or a vincent fuller/macho harris being involved in a punt block - 7 point swing.

There is significantly less risk in being injured on a punt return than a kickoff return. I can't recall the last time we had a player badly injured in a punt return situation.

The reward of Jarrett returning punts over an unproven commodity can mean the difference between a 8-4 season and a 10-2 season + I feel like he is more likely to hurt himself against a Western Carolina, coming up in run support than returning punts vs Bama or Miami.

Let teams kick away from Jarrett, but put another player back there that will make them think twice about it (Caleb?)

This team just isn't good enough to get back to a BCS game without living a little on the edge.

just my take...

not to get off topic, but special teams question:
I know kick formations have changed, etc, but I never see any movement pre-punt like in the above clip. Why don't we ever do that? Even if we don't block a punt, surely it rattles the punter a little bit?

Because on every kickoff return the returner gets to full speed

A large percentage of punt returns have a tackle well before the returner gets his engine into 6th gear.

Also, every kick-off coverage man (excluding the kicker) is a tackling specialist.

Many punt-coverage men are actually responsible for blocking duties, which mean they are less likely to have the skill set to deliver a harsh tackle.

The link downloads it from the drop box. But as far as make it a ringtone I'm not sure on an iPhone. I'm an android guy

Miami 03 was the absolute greatest experience in Lane Stadium.... The Nebraska Miracle was amazing but the energy was not even close to 03 Miami. If you were at "The Walk" before the game you knew before you even got inside the stadium that there was no way we were losing that game. "The Walk" was never duplicated no matter how many times they tried.

i gotta learn to read a whole thread before i post, my question was already answered down here. good stuff chazz and fernley.

are there stats on this sort of thing? i know there's increased risk in return situations just because of all the momentum flowing down the field, but many times when someone's hurt on a kick or punt return it's not necessarily the return man. has it been proven if returning kicks or punts is statistically more likely to result in injury than playing a particular position, especially a position like safety where big collisions happen all the time in that part of the field?

No problem, I'm bored at work so I was reading old threads. Any idea on how to save it?

I had this on my old phone and have been looking for it since I got my HTC one. Thank you so much

I was digging through the tracker / archives and found this and I was thoroughly impressed with the ringtone! How exactly do you make it your ringtone for your iPhone? It just opened in a web browser and played for me, but I didn't see a way to save it.

Miami 03 is probably the best that I've witnessed first hand. Don't remember too much of the cuse game in 99. That 03 game was huge and I'd put that night in lane against any game in any other stadium no question

I heard a couple of weeks ago that he's waiting on a call back. But, he's starting his own business in case the NFL doesn't work out.

Wait you're 20 and you've gone to games since '99!?! I wish my parents had money like that! I'm 20 too and my first VT game wasn't until the Boise State game (well at least they have an easy team to recover against even if it is just on four days rest... well at least we won't have another game on four days rest in the future... GOD DAMN IT ACC). The best game for me is 38-0 bro simply because it's the best performance VT has put on the field while I've been in attendance.

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